So, i had my first Tul ammo steel casing stuck in the barrel of my AR over the weekend.

[Mosinitis]

Here is something to consider:

Barrels have a life. It's the amount of rounds the barrel can shoot with reasonable accuracy.
.223 button rifled barrels will crap out at about 3,000 rounds give or take 1,000.
.223 barrels with cut rifling will shoot accurately longer, about 5,000. Give or take 1,000. Their decline will be at slower rate, but it will be a decline.
Shooting rapid fire without allowing the barrel to cool off between shots will shorten barrel life even further considerably.
For many calibers these numbers are even lower.

Nothing is wrong with blasting away as long as people understand what it does to a rifle and are willing to make the sacrifice.

 

[dsdmmat]

Here is something to consider:

Barrels have a life. It's the amount of rounds the barrel can shoot with reasonable accuracy.
.223 button rifled barrels will crap out at about 3,000 rounds give or take 1,000.
.223 barrels with cut rifling will shoot accurately longer, about 5,000. Give or take 1,000. Their decline will be at slower rate, but it will be a decline.
Shooting rapid fire without allowing the barrel to cool off between shots will shorten barrel life even further considerably.
For many calibers these numbers are even lower.

Nothing is wrong with blasting away as long as people understand what it does to a rifle and are willing to make the sacrifice.

Fair point. A very small percentage of shooters can constantly shoot sub MOA, or even care to try. Most will never notice the degradation of accuracy until they let someone who can shoot well try out their gun. I see a lot of folks at the range I am a member of in NC. Most are shooting ARs at 25 yards or less. I have only seen three or four people besides me trying to squeeze every mm they can out of a group. Of course the range I go to is limited to100 yards. I still need to find a 1 mile shooting club. There are a couple in the area but I have not gotten there yet.

 

[Mosinitis]

Fair point. A very small percentage of shooters can constantly shoot sub MOA, or even care to try. Most will never notice the degradation of accuracy until they let someone who can shoot well try out their gun. I see a lot of folks at the range I am a member of in NC. Most are shooting ARs at 25 yards or less. I have only seen three or four people besides me trying to squeeze every mm they can out of a group. Of course the range I go to is limited to100 yards. I still need to find a 1 mile shooting club. There are a couple in the area but I have not gotten there yet.

Button rifled barrels can go from sub-MOA to 3-6 MOA very fast. People tend to get bored with shooting one rifle and buy another, so they don't get to that point because the rifle becomes a safe queen.
Many are not aware of barrel life or they would adjust their shooting practices accordingly.
Some people are just relatively new to shooting and will benefit from knowing how to do things better.

CMP is a great resource:

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PS. I shoot 600 yards regularly, but I never shot past that distance. There is only one range in NY where you can shoot out to a 1,000 yards. Forbes Rifle Club in Colonie, NY. Not a lot of ranges in the country go past 600 yards. 600 yards used to be classified as Long Range, now it is classified as Mid-Range.

 

[REF]

Button rifled barrels can go from sub-MOA to 3-6 MOA very fast. People tend to get bored with shooting one rifle and buy another, so they don't get to that point because the rifle becomes a safe queen.
Many are not aware of barrel life or they would adjust their shooting practices accordingly.
Some people are just relatively new to shooting and will benefit from knowing how to do things better.

CMP is a great resource:

Home - Civilian Marksmanship Program

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thecmp.org

PS. I shoot 600 yards regularly, but I never shot past that distance. There is only one range in NY where you can shoot out to a 1,000 yards. Forbes Rifle Club in Colonie, NY. Not a lot of ranges in the country go past 600 yards. 600 yards used to be classified as Long Range, now it is classified as Mid-Range.

If I’m not mistaken, Sheep Dog Warrior in the Catskills is a 1000yd range. No membership required. Been there last year. This of course unless they’ve closed recently.

 

[Mosinitis]

If I’m not mistaken, Sheep Dog Warrior in the Catskills is a 1000yd range. No membership required. Been there last year. This of course unless they’ve closed recently.

I stand corrected. Forbes is the only 1000 yard range in NY with pits.
Although with electronic targets and wifi cameras coming out, pits at long ranges are becoming less important.

 

[Modean]

If you like hitting your target then you do care. Competitive shooting is just an advanced level of that.
No one has to get to that level, but shooting fundamentals and rifle/ammo accuracy knowledge comes from there.

Don’t care even a little about medals and trophies. Pretty sure the last award I received for marksmanship was in basic training 40 years ago. As
I said, it’s that’s your thing, you go. I shoot to maintain proficiency and for fun. I’m a minute of bad guy marksman, just like the army trained me to be.

 

[Robin]

I guess I'm like the old golfer that plays against himself. I do try always to do the best I can with the the equipment I'm using and against my own skills. There is nothing like open competition to make you do better in any endeavor though and if I was younger I would definitely go to matches. Sadly the last outfit around here that had shooting matches quit about ten years ago.
Robin

 

[Mosinitis]

Don’t care even a little about medals and trophies. Pretty sure the last award I received for marksmanship was in basic training 40 years ago. As
I said, it’s that’s your thing, you go. I shoot to maintain proficiency and for fun. I’m a minute of bad guy marksman, just like the army trained me to be.

You already said that and maintaining proficiency is still about hitting the target.

 

[Acer-m14]

Got my Mosin ready for turkey season

 

[meketrefe]

Tul ammo? I sense something is missing