Political Picture thread. (humor/memes/etc)

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The problem is that as soon as *anyone* can be denied due process, everyone can.

If you don't get due process to determine if you are a citizen or not, then citizens can be denied as easily as anyone else.

But, this is the wrong conversation to have.
It accepts the left wing lie that these people *didn't* get due process. They did.

Due process doesn't require a hearing in front of a judge for deporation, anymore than a conviction at trial is required before putting someone in jail.

Both just require probable cause and no judge signoff is necessary.

Because the due process that the innocent are afforded happens *after* the jail or deportation.
 
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spat said:
The problem is that as soon as *anyone* can be denied due process, everyone can.

If you don't get due process to determine if you are a citizen or not, then citizens can be denied as easily as anyone else.

But, this is the wrong conversation to have.
It accepts the left wing lie that these people *didn't* get due process. They did.

Due process doesn't require a hearing in front of a judge for deporation, anymore than a conviction at trial is required before putting someone in jail.

Both just require probable cause and no judge signoff is necessary.

Because the due process that the innocent are afforded happens *after* the jail or deportation.
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Illegal immigrants are not citizens and therefore are not entitled to the protections of the constitution. The distinction between citizens and non-citizens is very easy to make so I don't see any slippery slope about denying due process.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Illegal immigrants are not citizens and therefore are not entitled to the protections of the constitution. The distinction between citizens and non-citizens is very easy to make so I don't see any slippery slope about denying due process.
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Ok, then you're an illegal and we're shipping you to El Salvador on the next plane.

There's no process we have to follow to make sure you're illegal, right ? We can just stamp "deport his ass" on anyone's forehead and off they go right ?

If that’s the new standard, I have *a lot* of suggestions.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Illegal immigrants are not citizens and therefore are not entitled to the protections of the constitution. The distinction between citizens and non-citizens is very easy to make so I don't see any slippery slope about denying due process.
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100% wrong. The Bill of Rights was written to codify UNALIENABLE rights, these rights are not granted by government. Citizenship has no bearing on UNALIENABLE rights.
 
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