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I like where you're coming from. I completely agree with your mindset on the principles. However, you can't possibly ignore the risks involved. At this point we're no different than the people in the North helping runaway slaves escape to freedom via the Underground Railroad. We're doing what is...

Would SCOTUS have denied the emergency request if the jews were legally prohibited from attending temple to give the 2nd another chance in 3 months to get it right or would emergency relief be granted immediately?

Well said. I like your argument but the judge won't. So it's really a matter of the risk you wish to take. That will vary for each person. In the end I believe we will be on the right side of history and the cops who enforce this and the officials who passed this will be on the wrong side of...

Well kind of. The injunction or restraining orders were granted initially because the district courts (who are the courts that will decide the cases) agreed that the plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits of their cases. They didn't just issue their rulings haphazardly in expectation of...

Sure. We know this. It's been discussed by the YouTube types who are in tune with this. We've all watched the video explanations that you have, so you're not telling us anything new. My point is they've had their chances already. How many more will they get?

This can either go good or bad very quickly. Watch them wipe out all 6 cases at once with one decision. I don't think that will happen but it could.

If you want the merry go round to stop then get off of the ride.

Not a big fan of this guy but this is short and right to the point. Good info.

Posted here yesterday Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

Yep. Just waiting for others to come along and tell me how it's actually a good thing and the lower courts will get their act together next time because they've been put on warning and will get bitch slapped if they don't!! :smash:

If someone in Texas sued they’d win as that law does not meet the bar set in Bruen. It has to be a widely accepted law on the books in 1791 or similar. Just because it’s been the law in Texas for 20,40,65 years in Texas doesn’t make it a historical tradition in the nation.

Supreme Court did us again. This time none of the 9 justices offered any opinion or explanation. https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-rejects-new-york-gun-retailers-bid-block-new-concealed-carry-laws

Waste of time. Will never pass the senate or be signed by the "president".

NY never had any such law as far as I know. Check out the recent district court decision. There is a well reasoned and thorough explanation about this. To boil it down for you, there is simply no history and tradition of guns being banned in places that sell alcohol. They were able to find where...

saw this posted elsewhere

@Doc8404 @togmaster They could have 50 signs. It’s still sensitive by default. Liquor is served on premises. They aren’t able to allow carry by posting signs.

Yea someone told me something about SCOTUS requiring 60 days to appeal or some such thing and the 3/20 date falls just outside of that. So basically they are dragging it out as long as they can, about 7 days past the SCOTUS "requirement", and they probably know that SCOTUS won't give them a hard...

Not being a dick, but please tell me what this means? By bitch slapped do you mean they'll release a politely worded letter suggesting that they don't agree? The seems to be the extent of it to me. Zero consequences for anyone, except for us.

Nothing new I dont think. Seems like I've heard that before. They can charge you for weapons possession for anything. You can get charged for having a soup spoon if you intend to use it against another person.

You aint seen nothing yet. They will only hear these cases in 2 months. They they could do a number of things. Send them back down to the district courts or just take months to issue a ruling. And when the ruling does come it won't be in our favor so we'll have to wait longer for SCOTUS to take...

Requires 5 hour class with 2 hours of live fire. Must have certificate at all times including in your safe. Must retake every 2 years. For all firearms. https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/S1701

UPDATE: The enacting clause has been stricken, THE BILL IS DEAD.

Antonyuk v. Nigrelli (2nd Circuit): Second Circuit says that four cases challenging New York's gun laws will be heard on 3/20. doesn’t seem like there’s much hurry to me.

Problem for me is "or explain its actions". They aren't saying to reverse it or they will. They are saying get it over with or explain why you did what you did.

This is taken directly from page 13 of the Frey case. This is from the court filing. 69. Carrying a handgun outside of the restrictions imposed by a licensing officer, i.e., a licensee with a “target shooting” restriction possesses his/her handgun while at the grocery store, subjects the...

Yes but no deadline given. What's a reasonable time? A week? A month? 6 Months? 18 Months? I don't put much faith in this. Seems like they dont want to be bothered with it. It's not like its something important like our natural rights or anything that they have decided to allow to continue to be...

There's no reason for them to. What's in it for them? If SCOTUS wants to eventually overturn them then great. What consequence will they face? None. Why would the 2nd make it easier on us than they have to? They wouldn't.

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2023/attorney-general-james-releases-statement-us-supreme-court-decision-allowing

I can't see the 2nd circuit just rolling over and doing anything different just because 2 guys of SCOTUS wrote a letter saying come back later. Why would they? If they reverse it and rule in our favor we are given back our rights. But if they don't then MAYBE SCOTUS picks it back up and MAYBE...

Any reason everyone didn't jump on board here? The original 6 voters in Bruen? Does this kind of say if it were to go back to them we only have support form these 2 now?

I don't really care for that guy, and his title is misleading. The entire court denied it, not just her. Therefore no ability to appeal to Thomas as we had hoped.

More games. If they are going to decide then decide now. Where did all of that "one day is one too many" talk go?

The part I find interesting is they say not to be deterred to re-file with them if the 2ND doesn't give an explanation in a reasonable amount of time. They don't say come back if you dont get your way. So if it stands it's good as long as the 2ND explains why? Seems that way to me. They don't...

Also to note this was denied by the entire court so we can not appeal to Thomas. They got us good.

LOL. All you can do is laugh anymore. Oh well. Maybe in another 10 years SCOTUS will take it up, as is their usual pace for 2A cases.

That is a single shot gun, so you can only buy 2 rounds per 120 days.

From my understanding a Gen5 slide is not compatible with a Gen4 frame. Can't remember the specifics.

Yea. Thanks. You edited out the top where it says it’s the court of appeals letterhead. The others I’ve seen are clearly not this format and are from a law firm. Won’t matter in the end. The court will rule the same.

Really? I just scanned it quickly. Looked pretty bad and on court letterhead. Why wouldn’t it be on law firm/ state letterhead? Wired that they can release their response or statement on court of appeals letterhead. Hope you’re right.

That appears to be an extension for the smaller frame. I ordered the XL frame to convert to an X model. I’m just going to spend the cash for factory mags anyhow. I don’t like to play with that stuff. Mags cause almost all failures.

2nd circuit strikes down Suddaby. Rules his decisions were made in error. https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicyfoundation/pages/3970/attachments/original/1673295292/Antonyuk_v_Nigrelli_Brief_for_Appellant_Cecile.pdf

If the SC makes a clear and concise ruling explicitly stating X,Y and Z are protected then I am going to exercise those rights despite anything NY decides to do. At some point we need to say no more. We are like the abuse victims that won't leave their abuser.

Yea but the floor plate is part of the magazine. I'm sure they're fine but I'm nuts when it comes to this stuff.

Ok so I didn't miss the memo on 10 round mags? I try to read up on this legal news as much as I can.

Thanks for the link. Those look interesting for sure. I'm kind of a paranoid snob where I only run factory mags in my guns. I just wouldn't feel comfortable with these. It would sure save me a lot of money though.

I just ordered a WILSON COMBAT grip module. I am going to turn my P365 into a P365X because I ordered the XL grip module. Now I have to try to find XL 10 rounds mags. They seem to be sold out everywhere online.

So I don't need to use 10 round mags? Wasn't aware of that. Just to be clear, I was implying that his FL purchased guns probably have mags that hold more than 10 and he would need to get new mags that hold 10 or less to bring to NY. Are we on the same page or are you telling me 10 rounds is not...