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In immaculate condition.. Total of 25 rounds through the .22LR cylinder only.. .22 mag cyl,never been used.. In brand new condition, box, metal case, all original factory paperwork and decals come with it, as well as a little leather belt holster i bought for it.. It just not for me,,,,, Bought...

Also, I was thinking maybe dealers snap up these bulk deals.. At $10 a box,, they can buy 100 boxes, sell at $15, and be up $500.. At $15 a box in local stores it would be a good deal, as the CHEAPEST .32 I can find locally has been $18.99 A local gun store with good stock of all types of...

I realize that, and at $10 a box of 50 it does go fast.. Just didn't expect a really big retailer to be sold out in a day.. Next time I will be a bit quicker.. I have noticed .380 is getting cheaper.. At one time, it was almost as much as .32, but has come down. SO many guns being sold, and...

agreed.. I used FMJ in my carry guns, and some guys with permits that had carried since the 60's-70's talked me out of it, saying they had too much penetration, and might go through whatever I was shooting at and into something [or someone] that I was not aiming for.. I figure they knew more...

Yikes just saw the price.. $26 for 20.. kinda pricey, but i guess all you need is 1 box.. Its not target ammo... bob

Looks good.. wife carries a Sig P238, and we also have a Shield EZ .380, and actually I have a second P238 on the way, to go in my carry rotation.. Unlike some, I see no issue carrying a reliable, accurate, .380 for SD.. This looks like a good SD round.. Gotta see who has it for sale..bob

not sure if that was snarky response, but the .32 acp round still has a LOT of very knowledgeable gun carrying folks advocating for it.. The keltec p32 is still sold, as well as the NAA, Seecamp, Beretta Tomcat and a LOT of people carry them, some of them mainly because they like to carry...

OK, Just now got off the phone with a representative of Bud's Gun Shop.. Called yesterday, and they were kind enough to call back today.. I was told that there was no issue shipping to NY, except of course to certain zip codes, as was always the case.. So, who knows for sure , but thats what...

Most guys on the several other national forum I visit all say the same thing.. They try their best to conceal, but don't get all panicked if they print here and there.. I have a question thats pertinent that some might answer.. I carry small pistols only.. My largest is a Sig 938, and have...

Are gun shows really any good?.. Never been to a "gun show", but have been to outdoor shows with some guns.. Are there really serious deals on say, ammo, scopes, good used guns?.. or is it just a collection of 75 different dealers all in one place all selling at full retail?... bob

I dunno, Trump has not been as good on 2A issues as i had hoped he would be., He worries too much about what the leftist media says about it. We would STILL have the right and bear arms if we were limited to nothing but single shot .22 rifles, and single shot 20. ga shotguns... EVERYTHING...

Hell, I'll buy one right now...

Probably right, but Virginia counties that REALLY are pro 2A have some place to go... Maybe if the commonwealth REALLY fears losing 70 or 80 counties to W Virginia they will think twice about instituting tyranny..bob

I am on a national gun forum with many members from Virginia.. A few spoke, and/or had meetings with both Democrat and Republican legislators There were several lengthy "after event" reports. All say it went well.. Not even ONE arrest!.. All the talk about Civil War II was debunked.. It was...

Just got notified saturday that a very good, very low priced .32 acp round was again available at an ammo retailer . Tried to buy it Monday morning and they were sold out already. Has anyone been seeing certain types of ammo selling out this quickly recently?

I have a PC Carbine.. Personally I feel its already too nose heavy for a 9mm carbine .. Common complaint actually, although many owners say its fine.. I would make 100% sure you like the weight of a standard 19001 PC Carbine before you get one thats heavier yet .. bob

Exactly.. I am so confused when I read on gun/patriot forums that the police/military will side with patriots and uphold the 2A when the shit hits the fan for real.. That will NEVER happen.. The police are NOT our friends.. They will follow orders.. Same with the military.. MAYBE, on a good...

Thats the way it seems to be for me, despite a lot of range time.. I can't seem to shoot DA only triggers very well, although physically I feel fine doing so.. I don't feel like I am "pulling up" or straining.. Feels perfectly natural, but with my DA triggers, I get flyers up the ass...

Yes I do understand, but so many companies that sell arms or ammo are going that direction.. Its not them so much as the state.. Even having to pay 2 FFL fees, its worth it.. You don't see the 2 tone stainless P238 at that price anywhere.. they are usually in the $600 range.. I think they are...

Does anyone REALLY believe that those anarchists are there to HELP the 2A patriots that will be marching???.. please.. They are there to start major shit realizing the media will instantly blame the God fearing,pro 2A , pro life patriots. They are going to start trouble big time , knowing full...

I checked the map, and I count 28 at this time.. A couple have changed over the past few years it seems... bob

ok you win, you're the expert- https://nygunforum.com/threads/creating-a-ny-pistol-permit-map.318/

Tioga County is one of the very best 2A counties in the state.. Unrestricted if you want one with a nice letter of explanation to the county judge, and he is a 2a guy.. Wife and I both got our unrestricted permits first try, NO classes required ... They should certainly be green, no...

Understood, my apologies for going off topic...bob

Already have a P938.. Great gun, but actually I like the P238 better... My wife carries one, and I love that little gun... She paid $700 for hers..

Look, I worked there for decades... My son lived there as well, and was never able to get a permit there, and all my friends and aquaintences had the same experience.. Applied, and were reject because of "insufficient reason " or something vague in that manner. People move out like my son...

Ok, let me clarify... You certainly can APPLY, but they do not ever issue them unless you qualify under LEOSO or know someone in The Sheriffs dept VERY well .. Been here 30 years, and its always been that way.. Years ago, I was told by longtime gun owners that its not worth even trying...

Thank you gentlemen for enlightening me.. I had no idea, and I am SO sorry for what those SOB's down there put you through to buy a damn gun... Right now I feel like that proverbial guy that cried because he had no shoes, until he saw the guy who had no feet. I imagine i should be thankful...

That is absolutely sickening.. despicable... Bastard leftist radical gun grabbing judges playing God, and amending the Constitution on the fly to suit his own whims... I HATE NY.... bob

It changes.. here's an article from about 8 months ago, stating that 32 states recognized the Pa permit... However things DO change each year, and it may be less.. Last time I checked, my combined NY/Pa permits were recognized by 31 states, but I am not sure how current the information was...

I am really late to the game on this... I don't know how it works in other counties in NY, perhaps someone could give me a quick lesson... Here in Tioga county, I go to the gun shop,pay for the pistol. take the receipt to the sheriffs dept where its added to my permit for i think $3 or $6 or...

Interesting.. I was always under the impression it had to be an unrestricted permit.. That being said, I went to Scranton, and perhaps that was my reference point.. If I gave misleading information my apologies.. Certainly worth doing a bit of research and taking a bit longer drive to get an...

No you must have a NY unrestricted, unfortunately...bob

just wondering if most members here with unrestricted carry permits also have the Pa. permit?.. In my area, [southern tier], most everyone does , but perhaps some folks that live further away from pa have not done it.. Its certainly worth it if not.. I think it was about $20-30 ,something like...

meh, Pennsylvania is no bargain,, Better than NY for now, but it has the same problem.. Largely conservative in 95% of the land area, but a few cities full of leftists and their illegal gimmee welfare handout minions call the shots for the entire state.. Pa. always has leftist governors.. Its...

Tomcat does not have an extractor either. Blowback eject.. Also, you need to use standard grade .32 acp,- NO +p stuff at all.. Early one had a lot of problems with frames cracking.. Newer INOX models have been beefed up, and cracking problems resolved, but Beretta still insists on using only...

I like the Guardian, but its DA only, and many choke with any ammo other than Winchester Silvertips which is what the manual says MUST be used. The Beretta is more forgiving with varied ammo from all reports, has a much longer history, and I like the DA/SA with safety , much like my other...

I recently bought the little brother to the Tomcat, a 21 A Bobcat Inox in .22LR.. just a wonderful gun, with a VERY cool design.. the tilt up barrel is just so cool.. Pistol breaks down for cleaning totally in 3 seconds.. Hit the barrel tilt lever, and pull the slide off,, Done! Scary accurate...

I don't know of any. I know some states have a lot of them.. I would like to try out a few different handguns next time before I buy if possible.. It really sucks blowing $500 on a pistol, putting 50 rounds through it, realizing its not really the gun for you for whatever reason , and then being...

A LOT of people will only hunt on their own posted land, or get permission for someone else's posted land.. Its a dangerous thing these days to hunt on state land. Too many idiots out there that wheel and fire when they hear a twig snap. Deer hunting is declining across the country, and...

Sounds like a good guy.. Most likely the breadwinner in his family. Maybe he'll get a raise so he can make a little more dough each paycheck. bob

I commend your passion, and I share it.. You are correct of course. Self defense is God given.. The constitution doesn't give us our rights.. It GUARANTEES the government cannot take them away. In my post I alluded to the SC. They left the matter open to interpretation as to what the word "arms"...

I submit with respect, that some of you guys don't get it. There are reasons why Trump, and other Republicans are doing nothing about upholding the constitution .. They can't and they know it.. Most voters WANT """common sense gun control""",, and they vote for it time and time again. The...

Exactly.. death by a thousand cuts..Or the frog boiled alive by heating the water so slowly he doesn't know he is dying... They can implement any restrictions they want, effectively crippling the 2A, but still call them, ""common sense gun laws"".. ""We are STRONG supporters of the Second...

correct.. WAY too many.. they hunt, maybe even go to the range, and like guns.. recently had a discussion with a woman at my church.. liked shooting, adored the time she spent with her late husband target shooting, and loved the accuracy of her ruger 22/45.. She is also a gun grabbing...

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VERY glad you understand A21.. a lot of otherwise good , patriotic Americans have no idea what it is, and wouldn;t believe it if told.. They wan people massed in cities, and dependent on the state for their sustenance . This way, the state will control food and resource production, and once...