‘Justice’ bill would transfer up to 32 million acres to Black farmers

Saltwater60 · Nov 25, 2020

Just curious but do they want to be farmers?

Not for nothing but I’ve seen a good amount of farms in my day and I’ve honestly never seen a black man working on the farm. Some Jamaican migrant workers but that’s it. They won’t be awarded this land either since they aren’t citizens.

Also aren’t for the most part minorities centered in urban areas? Not to many urban farms. There are also a good amount of Mexican farmers in the USA from what I have seen. Will they be successful? What good is it to give them land if they don’t know what they are doing? No stigma there or anything. I can’t. Run a farm successfully either so nothing against them.

This is a stupid plan honestly.

fresch · Nov 25, 2020

That's raaacist !

That_FNG · Nov 25, 2020

Yeah cause that type of social injustice worked out so well for well south africa

tirwin1 · Nov 25, 2020

I thought we solved this problem already.

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Calculon · Nov 25, 2020

People value what they pay for/earn.

GOPerfect · Nov 25, 2020

First, where is this land coming from?

Second, is it only farm land?

Third, do these black farmers have to farm the land?

Forth, are they going to have to pay taxes on this land?

Fifth, is this land being taken from others, White people?

Sixth, I say good, lets the reset come even sooner.

Seventh, this is only going to grow the hatred in this Country.

meketrefe · Nov 25, 2020

In order to find racist legislation insert {skin color} between the brackets.

Bigfoot · Nov 25, 2020

From my perspective. (Been around farms my entire life.)

I grew up on a farm. There were other farms all around us.

When I moved to NY I bought a house in farm country. If I walk North through a few fields behind my house I end up at a large dairy farm. If I head west from my house there are a couple of family dairy farms just down the road. One of those farms I used to milk the girls on a fill in basis.

3 miles further down the road is a large corporate dairy farm that produces 20,000 gallons of milk daily. That farm has a ton of employees.

Just down the road to the East of me is a large agricultural farm.
It's a large operation and they have a ton of employees. They have some horses too.

Not to far South of me there is a large pig farm.

I know some people that work on these farms.

What I am getting at is this... Considering all of that text above, I have never seen a black man
working on any of those farms. From a kid on our farm to present.

That's my perspective anyways... YMMV

Cavalry · Nov 25, 2020

All the farmers I know have given up farming and have decided its more profitable to turn the farm land into solar farms.

According to this black farmers make up 1.4% of farms nationwide

https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/Highlights/2014/Highlights_Black_Farmers.pdf

libertysnake · Nov 25, 2020

Little late on the 1865 "forty acres and a mule" special this country was running. Fine print says you have to claim it within a century. Sorry, buddy.

BuffNiag · Nov 25, 2020

LOL. They make it sound like anyone can be a farmer with some land, a hoe and a few seeds in their pocket. How quaint.

It is damn near impossible for ANYONE to start farming for profit on your own. Maybe as recent as 75-100 years ago but not today. This is just more failed socialism.

GOPerfect · Nov 25, 2020

BuffNiag said:
LOL. They make it sound like anyone can be a farmer with some land, a hoe and a few seeds in their pocket. How quaint.

It is damn near impossible for ANYONE to start farming for profit on your own. Maybe as recent as 75-100 years ago but not today. This is just more failed socialism.

And general appeasement. What is going to happen when the blacks cannot afford the taxes on this free land?

Nothing more than "Taking from the Haves and Giving to the Have Nots"...

Carlos Hathcock · Nov 25, 2020

Anyone bother to ask black people if they even WANT to farm?

fresch · Nov 25, 2020

GOPerfect said:
And general appeasement. What is going to happen when the blacks cannot afford the taxes on this free land?

Nothing more than "Taking from the Haves and Giving to the Have Nots"...

your representative (insert fed, state, county) will buy it at $1; you and I will never be the wiser.

fresch · Nov 25, 2020

Land does not a farmer make!
Kinda need the tools, materials, know how, you know the stuff man!

1075tech · Nov 25, 2020

Gimme $300k and idgaf who grows what on this rock

Catskillkid · Nov 25, 2020

From the article: Under the bill, up to 32 million acres would move to Black ownership over a decade — nearly seven times the 4.7 million acres now in Black farms. A new USDA agency, the Equitable Land Access Service, would administer the program. The USDA would buy land from willing sellers at fair market value for use in the program. Up to 20,000 grants of 160 acres would be made annually through 2030. Recipients would be new or experienced Black farmers. Beginning farmers would be required to complete a training program.

I suppose if the land is coming from a "willing seller" it's not as bad as land taken a gunpoint like it has been in many African nations (which by the way have been literally begging the white farmers to come back because of the starvation seen in those countries) but its still a stupid idea. I seriously doubt there are that many people (let along "black" people) who are that interested in real farming. Most people I know have this romantic notion of farming as plowing up an acre or two, throwing some seeds on the ground, and sitting on a rocking chair on the back porch watching it grow and then cashing in at the end of the summer. Anyone who has worked a real farm and tried to make a profit knows that ain't at all what it's like. Just another example of the social justice warrior bullshit permeating society and creating another do-nothing expensive program on the backs of tax payers.

For the record, in 2020, most white people I know wouldn't know what the hell to do with 40 acres and a mule. I seriously doubt that most blacks would be any better, even with training programs.

Blimey · Nov 25, 2020

I believe Zimbabwe tried this to predictable effect. South Africa is underway as well, while the country goes to hell.

Calculon · Nov 25, 2020

Step 1) Democrats award millions of free acres of land and long term tax abatements to aggrieved demographic ("farmers")
Step 2) Farmers don't have sufficient knowledge or investment dollars to equip and run an industrial size farm
Step 3) Farmers sell farmland plots for pennies on the dollar to Democratic cronies and politicians
Step 4) Politicians and cronies sell land to developers (or back to legit farmers) for handsome profits

Less of an equal opportunity program and more of a politician enrichment program.

spat · Nov 25, 2020

Bigfoot said:
From my perspective. (Been around farms my entire life.)

I grew up on a farm. There were other farms all around us.

When I moved to NY I bought a house in farm country. If I walk North through a few fields behind my house I end up at a large dairy farm. If I head west from my house there are a couple of family dairy farms just down the road. One of those farms I used to milk the girls on a fill in basis.

3 miles further down the road is a large corporate dairy farm that produces 20,000 gallons of milk daily. That farm has a ton of employees.

Just down the road to the East of me is a large agricultural farm.
It's a large operation and they have a ton of employees. They have some horses too.

Not to far South of me there is a large pig farm.

I know some people that work on these farms.

What I am getting at is this... Considering all of that text above, I have never seen a black man
working on any of those farms. From a kid on our farm to present.

That's my perspective anyways... YMMV

Race is irrelevant. 99.9% of city dwellers would not make it farming, even if they had a USDA team of advisors telling them what to do every step of the way.

It is *way* more work than they would be willing to put in.

The average farmer does more actual work before breakfast on Monday than most of them do all week. And thats speaking of the gainfully employed, let alone the moochers.

fresch · Nov 25, 2020

Eat the mule, plant weed.

IrishMick · Nov 25, 2020

Farming is one of the toughest jobs there is. Even experienced small farmers fail regularly thru no fault of their own. The practice of giving out small parcels to farm has been an abject failure where it has been tried n places like Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and warming up for failure in SA currently. Also the amount of infrastructure to run a 160ac farm and 1600ac farm is hardly different. All this costs a lot of money.

tony · Nov 25, 2020

With the end of Apartheid in the late 80's, early 90's the Dutch farm owners were kicked off their farms. The black workers (who were paid well under Apartheid) now had to try running the farm and fend for themselves. They failed miserably and are mostly starving today, but they own a farm...

dwa12479 · Nov 25, 2020

BuffNiag said:
LOL. They make it sound like anyone can be a farmer with some land, a hoe and a few seeds in their pocket. How quaint.

It is damn near impossible for ANYONE to start farming for profit on your own. Maybe as recent as 75-100 years ago but not today. This is just more failed socialism.

Exactly my first thought as well. Most true "farmers" are actual farmers because they've been doing it their whole life. Its not something you just up and do one day in your middle aged years. Its not a job, its a way of life.

Bigfoot · Nov 25, 2020

dwa12479 said:
Exactly my first thought as well. Most true "farmers" are actual farmers because they've been doing it their whole life. Its not something you just up and do one day in your middle aged years. Its not a job, its a way of life.

This is the kind of post that I would like to give more than 1 (like)

Dr. Evil · Nov 25, 2020

Didn't they pull this shit in South Africa fairly recently?

Cooolone · Nov 25, 2020

So... Affirmative Action failed and Welfare... And there's a plan to give away land to a particular demographic... Reparations down the road too...

What will we give when those fail too? Who's to blame then? Who gets shamed to provide the justification for more pork barrel handouts and deflection from the real issue that is being ignored, just like B vs B crime and the culture that permeates the same demographic!

What happens when the reasons, used as excuses, runs out? What then? Because this can't continue forever...

Just sayin...

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