1/20/20 Virginia 2nd Amendment Rally discussion (merged thread)

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And where will those be after your death 20 years later? Will your kids keep them like you kept your grandpa’s wartime bring back? Their kids? Where are all the Tommy Guns? Full auto M14’s? Grenades from Vietnam?

Answer. They’ll remain buried and forgotten or thrown out in the trash when your house is sold or your son’s house is sold. Or found and made compliant.
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If I’m dead in 20 years I died much too early
 
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How do you think revolutions start ?

1776 didn't start with capital ships duking it out in NY harbor.

After a couple years of such a guerilla war, the feds wouldn't be able to field many aircraft either.
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Different times. We didn’t have weapon disparities. There was no media like it is today. No drones. Satellite. Thermal. Infrared. Wiretaps. Welfare. Jobs to lose. Pensions to lose. Trips to Disney World.

I made these points in other threads and they weren’t challenged. But every thread the same BS comes back up.

Mark my words. There will be no armed insurrection. None. You know it and I know it.
 
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I do not believe that to be a fact. We do not have more power than the government. If we did, we would not be in this mess to begin with.

Do we have fully automatic machine guns for suppression? Grenades? Artillery? That power was given away a long time ago. Do we have police and Secret Service refusing to protect them to allow us to waltz on in to dispose of them? Do we have satellite surveillance? Do we have the ability to wiretap them? Do we have aircraft to take down theirs? Rockets to take them down from the ground?
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what you have failed to take into account is the mass of liberal/progressive voters WITH NO ID. The only reason Norhham won was because the liberals, and I mean Soros and Bloomturd, spent millions of dollars to get Illegal immigrants and felons and welfare people TO THE POLLS, 600,000 voters with NO IDENTIFICATION pushed the liberals into office. If we had voter ID, my bet is, Northam would have lost, by a wide margin

This is exactly what is going to happen in Florida. Once the Liberals are in office, they pass unconstitutional laws and them say, "let the courts sort it out". Then they "move the goal post" so patriots can not regain power. The problem with that is, the courts are stacked against us, with liberal judges, who are more than happy to comply with the liberals.

So you better get comfortable with people like Cuomo and Northam, they're going to be around for awhile. A long while
 
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Different times. We didn’t have weapon disparities. There was no media like it is today. No drones. Satellite. Thermal. Infrared. Wiretaps. Welfare. Jobs to lose. Pensions to lose. Trips to Disney World.

I made these points in other threads and they weren’t challenged. But every thread the same BS comes back up.

Mark my words. There will be no armed insurrection. None. You know it and I know it.
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You could very well be right about us losing without a fight.

But, we have enough weaponry now to kick it off.

If we let them take everything it will be because of a lack of resolve, not a lack of resources.
 
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I am on a national gun forum with many members from Virginia.. A few spoke, and/or had meetings with both Democrat and Republican legislators There were several lengthy "after event" reports. All say it went well.. Not even ONE arrest!.. All the talk about Civil War II was debunked.. It was peaceful, respectful, and their voices were heard.. ALL races were in attendance as well.
Tens of thousands showed up.. Heard a low estimate of 22,000 to a high over 100.000, but the pics were amazing there were a LOT of people.. We don't know if it will do any good, I hope so, but even at best, the patriots in Virginia WILL be less free due to the government that the sheep in the cities demanded...
Lets hope it helped changed some left wing closed minds, but I have my doubts.. Communists are totalitarian in nature, and don't believe in honest negotiation.. Control and subjugation at all cost is their MO... bob
 
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Unfortunately the protest today in Virginia will have just as much of an effect on their gun laws as our protests did in Albany over the safe act..NONE!!!!!
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Probably right, but Virginia counties that REALLY are pro 2A have some place to go... Maybe if the commonwealth REALLY fears losing 70 or 80 counties to W Virginia they will think twice about instituting tyranny..bob
 
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What exactly have they done more than NYers? Open carry? Really? What is that accomplishing? Be specific please.
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ZERO arrests: Even CNN admits Ralph Northam’s breathless state of emergency was unnecessary

Leftists across the nation collectively held their breath and prepared for the worst today. They were certain that if you
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Welp they got CNN to admit on national television that 10s of thousands of Second Amendment supporters can gather together carrying military style assault rifles and heavy artillery without a single killing or arrest, even though Coonman and his Blackface Gang were beating the racist white terrorist drum for weeks on that very same network and others.

Just like my friend Celt was able to gather national attention on Fox News when officer Stompy McAsshole smashed his yard sign, rallying NYers and Americans around the country to his situation as they see the same shit in their own communities.

Its called solidarity and messaging, which our current President works as a master showman.

There are several avenues to actually winning this fight, rather than complaining about it: the propaganda war (the exercise of our First Amendment), the legal fight (the exercise of our Right to Due Process and Equality Before the Law), the battle in the courts (the Right to be heard and to have a Fair Trial), the political battle (voting and passing/defeating legislation), as well as the necessity for us to organize for all of these as well as "other purposes."

We need to use all of this and more to hopefully prevent and reverse what is going on in this nation before it comes to hard strokes and hard times, and especially if it does so.

You and I have been around the mulberry bush before Will, so I'm going to say this to you without trying to belittle you or disrespect your service to this country.

You think you have an idea how the Revolution came about and was won, how it was established and Founded, and so on, but it is obvious to those who have read widely that you have not. That's not a knock against you, and you can always avail yourself of the source material, as its all out there on the internet and public libraries for free.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Patrick Henry, and so on understood the need to rally the troops and popular support, and were masters of it because they were sincere men who spoke from their hearts and from erudition and deeply held principles, with a love for their countrymen that was true and authentic. They were able to organize men both by persuasion and by force (through military discipline and hanging traitors). They had a full-spectrum vision of how to tackle their own problems and win a nation, and they executed that vision by the grace of God and for the benefit of posterity.

They also knew when to celebrate even a small victory for the sake of morale, not to look a gift horse in the mouth, to keep their mouths shut when expertise they did not have was brought to bear on a problem , and had the humility to learn from their mistakes.

You would do well if you did likewise.
 
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