1/20/20 Virginia 2nd Amendment Rally discussion (merged thread)

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TODAYS RANT, :salute::salute: from my FB page

well kids, what did we learn from yesterdays Pro-gun/Lobby day rally in Richmond Virginia, where 25,000 to 30,000 HEAVILY ARMED, Law abiding citizens gathered to protest unconstitutional laws being passed by an oppressive government?
Well first: we learned that DemocRATS discovered *WALLS/FENCES* work? although vehemently against a southern border wall/fence, Gov. Racist Blackface decided a FENCE all the way around the capital grounds was good idea---How hypocritical is that.
Second: we leaned that *LAW ABIDING* gun owners are, exactly that, LAW ABIDING. 25K plus ARMED people, and not one fight, a few arguments, sure. there were infiltrators that tried to start some shit, the law abiding gun owners recognized them and shut them down very quickly. And filmed them so there was no question as to who the problem people are.
Third: The 25K+ pro-gun participants are much more conscious of our surroundings, UNLIKE the Women March that left several hundred TONS of garbage behind, a LOT of (not all of) the participants cleaned up their own mess.
Forth, and probably the most important lesson learned is THIS: I think it's painfully obvious the media, and the anti-gun crowd are simply, flat out liars, period.
Shannon Watts of Mothers Demand Action, insisted that there was an "armed insurrection happening in Richmond" The lying bitch was insisting there was going to be gun fire any minute ~~~LIAR, LIAR, pussyhatsonfire.
CNN and the others were reporting all kinds of "bad things happening" White supremacist, white militia were running amok . Guess what, ALL RACES, religion, sexes, genders were there protesting, Black Panthers were there!, Gay's Jews, you name it, just thousands of law abiding AMERICANS. Only one person was arrested, and that was a nothingberger, some goof simply refused to remove his face mask? big deal.
The MSM thrives on keeping Americans divided, stop listening to them, period
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rant over, carry on
 
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In local media she was not described as antifa.
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The cops are taking great pains to avoid doing so, but people found her Instagram account and it was pretty clear that she was at the rally to counter-protest. Filmed for 6 minutes with a companion. Companion's comments include: “Way to keep our city safe guys while there’s fuckin’ Nazis and terrorists around here,” the man says. “Way to fuckin’ keep our city safe. We’re from Richmond.”

 
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That's why he was standing in the same spot all day, couldn't move. I'm not even sure he was a protestor, I think he just walked out of the gunstore with it trying to get to his car.
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He did drag it down from outside of Rochester to VA. ( owner of the Firing Pin indoor range).

I noticed that he is smiling from ear to ear in every picture.
 
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John Stark said:
I have no power to make you STFU, and even if I did I would never use it unless you were clearly in the act of committing a violent felony.

It was advice, not an order.

You are a racist, sexist, phobic, anti-American piece of shit to the people who want to make you a slave. Wearing business casual is not going to change that.

We should be proud of our fellow Americans today for how they have comported themselves in the face of masked cops threatening them with arrest for exercising their Rights, snipers on rooftops, and dealing with cattle chutes and a gigantic chicken coop, not tearing any single one of them down if they have peacefully, lawfully, and purposely with great resolve stood up for themselves and our system of government.

They've done more than anyone in NY has done to say no to their government since UnSafe passed, and every single one of them has made us proud.

And if you didn't like my first piece of advice, go pound sand while you wait for your NRA approved Second Amendment apparel to come out of the wash.
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A couple things. First, looking at all the people there carrying openly, in full gear, in plain clothes, or whatever showed incredible solidarity, passion, and patriotism and makes me realize I likely need to reevaluate my thoughts on all that. I'm not afraid to admit that I may be way off base with my prior notion.

Second, I'm not an NRA shill by any means, but I do believe that we are way worse off without a strong NRA. That point I will not concede.

Lastly, even though I admit I was wrong in my perception of those in full gear and the like, I stand by my reasoning that we do still need to be cognizant of how we are perceived. Even though I couldn't give two shits about what people think of my gun ownership, we do as a collective need to be aware of how we are viewed in the public eye. Keep in mind that politicians most often base their leanings on what they think their constituents want. When public opinion changes, so do those of the politicians. Why do you think we have so many RINO's? They see public opinion changing and realize that if they remain a staunch adherent of their seemingly outmoded views they will likely not be reelected. I'm not saying that if we play nice and don't ruffle the feathers of the left that things will work out in our favor. I'm not that naive, but it's still not doing us any favors especially in areas where Democrats aren't super left nut jobs in states where gun owners are not yet so vilified. Once these holdouts flip, we're done. What could do that? Their constituents changing their tune about how they perceive guns and gun owners. Who controls that? We do. Is there any hope this won't happen? Who knows. I concur that even with our best efforts the only solution may be that unspeakable one.
 
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We can wear Sunday dress or battle dress. The left does not care. They want us to be disarmed from ''weapons of war."
A constitutional right has no bearing to them. They have been heavily programmed for decades.

Oh... and fuck the NRA. All the monies donated to their org for decades and they said fuck you to the good citizens of NY.
 
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Well it was a moral victory for those patriots that did indeed attend the festivities. It showed to the world that 2nd Amendment supporters do want a peaceful resolution to the political machinations of the Democrats. So, it was good PR.

On the other hand, it was an intelligence trove for the State. All those who attended the event should be considered compromised electronically. In the event the Virginia situation goes kinetic, everyone who was at the event will immediately be considered an enemy of the State. Think about that for a minute. The State will be looking at all associates of the Lobby Day attendees. The NSA doesn't have all that processing power for show, they will use it.

What exactly did the Lobby Day event accomplish? I guess we'll know in a few days if the good PR is worth anything.

My gut feeling is the Democrats are going to continue to push their agenda. Laws infringing on rights will be passed. Will they be enforced? A certain percentage of Law Enforcement will enforce the new laws, because they're "following orders". Remember, those Statist enforcers have to sleep somewhere, and they have families. Fourth generation warfare is not kind to Statists, and I'm afraid that's what we'll see as Virginian politicians continue to stir the pot.

For the patriots that attended the event, they should savor the positive feelings of accomplishment. Savor them now before the bitter taste of new gun control laws are rammed down their throats.
 
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Now that the DemocRATs are in power, it will be virtually impossible to remove them. With no voter ID and everyone and their Grandmother allowed to vote, these rats are their to stay.

as someone once said, "you can vote your way into socialism, you're going to have to shoot your way out"
 
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Jackalope said:
On the other hand, it was an intelligence trove for the State. All those who attended the event should be considered compromised electronically. In the event the Virginia situation goes kinetic, everyone who was at the event will immediately be considered an enemy of the State. Think about that for a minute. The State will be looking at all associates of the Lobby Day attendees. The NSA doesn't have all that processing power for show, they will use it.
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Let them come. Coast to coast. In that aspect, the show of force by the patriots is small in scale compared to nation wide.

Jmac00 said:
Now that the DemocRATs are in power, it will be virtually impossible to remove them. With no voter ID and everyone and their Grandmother allowed to vote, these rats are their to stay.

as someone once said, "you can vote your way into socialism, you're going to have to shoot your way out"
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They should be forcefully removed by the sheriffs and hung. Maybe Virginians will show the balls to completely follow constitutional law.
I hope they do.
I support them.
 
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They should be forcefully removed by the sheriffs and hung. Maybe Virginians will show the balls to completely follow constitutional law.
I hope they do.
I support them.
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Kind of like what happened to Cuomo and his legislative lackies after the SAFE act was passed? I actually spoke with a NYS Trooper just after that amazing piece of legislative sleight of hand and mentioned that he should arrest Cuomo and put him on trial. He didn't say a word, I could see that he probably agreed with me, but the thought of that biweekly paycheck was his over-riding concern. Cuomo has all New Yorkers by the balls, and he does as he wishes with your State dollars. How about a free college education for illegal immigrants.... no problem. How about letting arrested criminals out of jail without bail... no problem. How about no more semi-automatic firearms.... it's coming. All citizens who believe in the Constitution and believe in the concept of right and wrong should be concerned. Politicians, whether in Virginia or in New York, have gone too far. It's time for push back.
 
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Jackalope said:
Kind of like what happened to Cuomo and his legislative lackies after the SAFE act was passed? I actually spoke with a NYS Trooper just after that amazing piece of legislative sleight of hand and mentioned that he should arrest Cuomo and put him on trial. He didn't say a word, I could see that he probably agreed with me, but the thought of that biweekly paycheck was his over-riding concern. Cuomo has all New Yorkers by the balls, and he does as he wishes with your State dollars. How about a free college education for illegal immigrants.... no problem. How about letting arrested criminals out of jail without bail... no problem. How about no more semi-automatic firearms.... it's coming. All citizens who believe in the Constitution and believe in the concept of right and wrong should be concerned. Politicians, whether in Virginia or in New York, have gone too far. It's time for push back.
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You're are correct. It is time for a push back.
The SP are paid by NYS via princess Andy. The sheriffs are not. This is where it begins.
 
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