10 Important Prepping Lessons From One Second After

[livingston]

If one was settled at their bugout location a tractor would be an excellent investment. Get an early model .. Diesel preferred .with some implements . My grandfather would turn his garden over with a shovel. When the Bosnian war broke out I noticed how many refugees fleeing that war zone fled on tractors pulling wagons. Often their was 8-10 people riding and wagon was loaded with farm and house hold supplies. .

 

[livingston]

Are Diesel Engines EMP Proof?​

In this video we are answering a pretty technical hypothetical question, are Diesel Engines EMP Proof?

 

[Brian Colt]

Then take a step back...

If you have a vehicle you like and plan on keeping for awhile instead of buying an entire old car, just go to the junkyard and pull out a spare ECU from a similar vehicle and store it in a faraday cage. You can make a faraday cage easily out of a metal garbage can.

Now that I'm talking about this I wonder why I haven't done it myself yet.

Great idea, however there are so many other electronics needed in a modern vehicle, it is highly unlikely to work. Theft deterrent systems would need to handshake, and a used ecu has already been married to a specific key. The pre-1973 era is the best bet.

 

[GTN]

The electronic brain of your car. It's the part most likely to get fried in an EMP or CME.

just get a large galvanized steel garbage can and lid. Line it with cardboard because you don't want anything inside it touching the metal can.

Put things inside that you want to protect. You can also wrap these items first in cardboard or something non conductive and then tightly wrap over that with aluminum foil.

Then place in the garbage can and attach the metal lid. Seal the seam of the lid to can with metal tape to complete a thorough seal and ensure that any electrical waves have the ability to conduct around the outside like a shield but not get in.

would solar panels be effected by emp?

 

[Steal2B]

The largest sequence of testing performed to demonstrate the vulnerability of automobiles to emp, actually concluded that all non running vehicles were not effected, most running vehicles were not effected, and vehicles that were effected all restarted and ran normally.

The test groups were disappointed by the unexpected results.

These results were not logically expected by the test group and were assumed to be from inherent shielding of automobiles. I have posted links of a few different reports on this forum.

 

[GTN]

Almost finished with book 2. To me, not as good as book 1.
Your thoughts?
Only thing I really learned was not to trust the government

 

[GOPerfect]

Almost finished with book 2. To me, not as good as book 1.
Your thoughts?
Only thing I really learned was not to trust the government

I thought all three were awesome, each in their own way.

 

[repete]

Only thing I really learned was not to trust the government

Well DUH! LOL

 

[GTN]

Book 2 done.
also learned to have a plan-don’t rush into action. Join forces with like minded people.

Book 3 is ordered and will be here Tues

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Book 2 done.
also learned to have a plan-don’t rush into action. Join forces with like minded people.

Book 3 is ordered and will be here Tues

Book 3 takes a really interesting turn. You won't be disappointed.

It's interesting the political transformation the author had from book 1 to 3.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

would solar panels be effected by emp?

I have no idea. I think there are conflicting reports and it's impossible to conduct a test for the exact same circumstances.


Maybe depending on the time of day, location of the emp detonation, altitude, atmospheric conditions, one day it might affect and the next day not.

 

[spat]

The largest sequence of testing performed to demonstrate the vulnerability of automobiles to emp, actually concluded that all non running vehicles were not effected, most running vehicles were not effected, and vehicles that were effected all restarted and ran normally.

The test groups were disappointed by the unexpected results.

These results were not logically expected by the test group and were assumed to be from inherent shielding of automobiles. I have posted links of a few different reports on this forum.

The automotive environment is well known to be one of the harshest environments for electronics in the world.

So vehicle electronics are already built with a great deal of hardening just to survive the normal everyday use. Strong filtering on inputs, robust power conditioning, highly resistant to voltage transients, this is all just part and parcel of being "automotive grade".

Add that to the inherent shielding of being installed in a metal box, and cars have a strong chance of surviving.

Keeping them fed with gas and oil of sufficient quality OTOH, could be quite a challenge.

 

[FP1201]

Almost finished with book 2. To me, not as good as book 1.
Your thoughts?
Only thing I really learned was not to trust the government

I just ordered the third book, and Reagan was right: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I just ordered the third book, and Reagan was right: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

Wait till the ending

 

[livingston]

I would like to believe we could endure an EMP . One wonders if cars can really withstand the strike. What would happen if the government lied to us . Most everything would fry. ... Panic ... Reports came out of Russia of an EMP like bomb being exploded and it caused extensive damage (early 60's ) ... Compared to today it was a very small blast ... Insulators were melted off telephone poles. . This whole thing is an unknown.

 

[Gunright]

I didn’t watch the video yet but the 1st thing I learned was to get a non- electric coffee pot

Don't forget the non-electric grinder or coffee in sealed tins.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I would like to believe we could endure an EMP . One wonders if cars can really withstand the strike. What would happen if the government lied to us . Most everything would fry. ... Panic ... Reports came out of Russia of an EMP like bomb being exploded and it caused extensive damage (early 60's ) ... Compared to today it was a very small blast ... Insulators were melted off telephone poles. . This whole thing is an unknown.

These are 2 interesting cold war tests during the 60s

Soviet Project K nuclear tests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Starfish Prime - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[GTN]

So I should have book 3 done by the weekend.
what’s next to read?

 

[Tintalieau]

So I should have book 3 done by the weekend.
what’s next to read?

Survival Reading Room Survival Books, PDFs and Literature

"Normal" a post SHTF novel (Story 1 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Operation Eris (Story 2 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Phoenix Rising (Story 3 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Seeing Jahannam (Story 4 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Lonely Bear (Story 5 of the "Normal" Saga)

Good story, mixed with prepper gear porn and wet dream survival location, but a good story with a lot of societal problems like in "One second after"

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Survival Reading Room Survival Books, PDFs and Literature

"Normal" a post SHTF novel (Story 1 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Operation Eris (Story 2 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Phoenix Rising (Story 3 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Seeing Jahannam (Story 4 of the "Normal" Saga)
Tales of the Ranch - Lonely Bear (Story 5 of the "Normal" Saga)

Good story, mixed with prepper gear porn and wet dream survival location, but a good story with a lot of societal problems like in "One second after"

Interesting thanks. Hadn't heard of this series yet

 

[FP1201]

If one was settled at their bugout location a tractor would be an excellent investment. Get an early model .. Diesel preferred .with some implements . My grandfather would turn his garden over with a shovel. When the Bosnian war broke out I noticed how many refugees fleeing that war zone fled on tractors pulling wagons. Often their was 8-10 people riding and wagon was loaded with farm and house hold supplies. .

For many years I kept a Hand Crank/Electric Starter Farmall H Tractor around: being Magneto sparked, all you had to do to start it was make sure there was gasoline in it...wasn't even fussy about the grade or potency, between it and a Hay Wagon you could move a lot of stuff if you needed to, and while not exactly fast, it's a shit ton better than having to walk or pull your Garden Wagon by hand.
BTW: once fully warmed up you could switch from Gasoline to Kerosine or Distillate.
Having to survive gives one the need to think and implement those ideas.

 

[99cummins]

For many years I kept a Hand Crank/Electric Starter Farmall H Tractor around: being Magneto sparked, all you had to do to start it was make sure there was gasoline in it...wasn't even fussy about the grade or potency, between it and a Hay Wagon you could move a lot of stuff if you needed to, and while not exactly fast, it's a shit ton better than having to walk or pull your Garden Wagon by hand.
BTW: once fully warmed up you could switch from Gasoline to Kerosine or Distillate.
Having to survive gives one the need to think and implement those ideas.

We’ve got a farmall 300 (300 replaced the H in farmall’s lineup) on the farm. Still earns its keep. Our newest tractor is a 1990. While not fast, as you said, tractors are very useful and assuming you could get fuel, they would be very handy post collapse.

 

[RedBreast21]

Your neighbors can be your greatest threat or your greatest asset. But that all needs to be sorted out before hand and not one second after. lol

 

[FP1201]

We’ve got a farmall 300 (300 replaced the H in farmall’s lineup) on the farm. Still earns its keep. Our newest tractor is a 1990. While not fast, as you said, tractors are very useful and assuming you could get fuel, they would be very handy post collapse.

I had a 300 with the Torque Amplifier, but kept the H because of the Trip-Bucket Loader...Our eldest Son has it and a couple other Tractors, so it's at least still "available"... While not ideal, one could pull a pretty good sized Travel Trailer with one, although stopping might be an issue.
I don't know what year GM and Chrysler went to Electronic Ignition, but Ford did in 1975 and continued to make the same engines into the 90's.
That said, if electronic ignition modules fried without viable replacements tucked away, there's still a good chance of using a points & condenser Distributor...Fuel Injected, well you're likely just as screwed.

 

[MikeyCNY]

One of the best SHTF series I have ever read.

I learned a lot form this series.

Most of Americans will not be ready for what may come. The few that are prepared, will be kings.

One lesson also in this book, you gotta be willing to kill. There will be lots of evil if things turn. Killing others will be needed.

One Second After was one of the scariest books I've read, because of how realistic it makes the "End of the World" seem. Having worked in retail pharmacy, I can tell you without a doubt, 95+% of people on prescription meds DO NOT plan ahead. My store had multiple closures over the years - power outage, fire on roof - and people tried to say "well I took my last pill yesterday". Or when we run out of something on a Friday and it'll be Monday before we get another order. The author touches on it briefly in the book, but the people on anti-psychotics (and there are A LOT), within a week will be back to full crazy. Diabetics will also have a hard go, which he does cover in the book.

Almost finished with book 2. To me, not as good as book 1.
Your thoughts?
Only thing I really learned was not to trust the government

It's been a while since I've read the 2nd and 3rd books - the first one I've read at least 10 times. Definitely the better of the series; it's hard to hold up to that, but they are definitely readable.

A similar series, the 'Going Home' books by "Angery American" were entertaining, if unrealistic. (Main character must have a 100 lb GHB with all the stuff he pulls out of it) That series was good but holy cow did he need an editor, of any type. Grammar and spelling issues abound. This series is similar to One Second After in that there's an EMP and the main character has to ruck hundreds of miles to get home to his family. Then FEMA comes in to "help" and the Schumer truly Hits The Fan.

The 'Patriots' series by James Wesley, Rawles was also good - once again the first book is the best. The "EOTWAWKI" here is a world-wide financial collapse. How prophetic... Not the most realistic series (unless everyone has steel plates over their windows), but it did bring up good ideas.

Edit: Watching the video now..

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

One Second After was one of the scariest books I've read, because of how realistic it makes the "End of the World" seem. Having worked in retail pharmacy, I can tell you without a doubt, 95+% of people on prescription meds DO NOT plan ahead. My store had multiple closures over the years - power outage, fire on roof - and people tried to say "well I took my last pill yesterday". Or when we run out of something on a Friday and it'll be Monday before we get another order. The author touches on it briefly in the book, but the people on anti-psychotics (and there are A LOT), within a week will be back to full crazy. Diabetics will also have a hard go, which he does cover in the book.

It's been a while since I've read the 2nd and 3rd books - the first one I've read at least 10 times. Definitely the better of the series; it's hard to hold up to that, but they are definitely readable.

A similar series, the 'Going Home' books by "Angery American" were entertaining, if unrealistic. (Main character must have a 100 lb GHB with all the stuff he pulls out of it) That series was good but holy cow did he need an editor, of any type. Grammar and spelling issues abound. This series is similar to One Second After in that there's an EMP and the main character has to ruck hundreds of miles to get home to his family. Then FEMA comes in to "help" and the Schumer truly Hits The Fan.

The 'Patriots' series by James Wesley, Rawles was also good - once again the first book is the best. The "EOTWAWKI" here is a world-wide financial collapse. How prophetic... Not the most realistic series (unless everyone has steel plates over their windows), but it did bring up good ideas.

Edit: Watching the video now..

What video are you watching?

 

[MikeyCNY]

What video are you watching?

From the OP: 10 Important Prepping Lessons From One Second After

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I stumbled across this YouTube channel this weekend. Never watched it before but they make some really interesting points that I hadn't yet considered or thought of.

If you have time to kill it's a good background discussion to listen to as you go about your day.

How Bad Will A Grid-Down Collapse Be For The Unprepared? (Podcast 440)

Think you're prepared for a collapse of our electrical grid?Think you'll know what you'll see outside your home as the days without electricity turn into wee...

www.youtube.com

I really need to spend more time learning human psychology under starvation conditions. That was even more alarming than I had already thought.

And this was that experiment they mentioned as an example

Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Definitely want to spend more time learning about this and trying to predict how poorly people now a days would behave

 

[Cooolone]

Funny story from some years and years ago...

I'm in a bookstore, B&N I believe and looking for some specific Martial Arts book, reading and looking up and down. Didn't find my book, but there was a book there that caught my eye. Out of place, wrong isle, etc., was John Wiseman - SAS Survival Handbook. Read thru quickly, skipping through, but seemed a decent book. Alas, wasn't what I was there for, so input it back where I found it. Well, it was a day or two later, and in an entirely different bookstore, and looking for the same Martial Arts book, would ya believe, there it was again, out of place, seemingly looking for me, but the SAS Survival book, hahahaha. I don't believe in coincidence, so I bought the book, have it digital as well and a small (really small) pocket version. I've read through it at least once per year, lol, just to keep things in mind. A book I recommend.

Love the HoBo stuff btw!

 

[RedBreast21]

I stumbled across this YouTube channel this weekend. Never watched it before but they make some really interesting points that I hadn't yet considered or thought of.

If you have time to kill it's a good background discussion to listen to as you go about your day.

How Bad Will A Grid-Down Collapse Be For The Unprepared? (Podcast 440)

Think you're prepared for a collapse of our electrical grid?Think you'll know what you'll see outside your home as the days without electricity turn into wee...

www.youtube.com

I really need to spend more time learning human psychology under starvation conditions. That was even more alarming than I had already thought.

And this was that experiment they mentioned as an example

Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Definitely want to spend more time learning about this and trying to predict how poorly people now a days would behave

There is no one size fits all plan for all the different situations.

2005 Katrina lessons taught us that even local government breaks down. LEO's go home, Fire....EMS....gone. You will be left to provide for yourself and family until some form of help arrives.

In a real and rare SHTF situation, if you aren't part of a community based plan encompassing a wide range of skills sets within that community, you're toast. This idea that a single family or man can fend off dozens of people is stuff movies are made of. Don't buy into that failing plan. "Oh but I have farm animals and crops..." yeah yeah, set one foot out that door and you won't even hear the shot.

That's reality.

Anyway, in either case, don't be the only guy not losing weight after weeks of no food. That's a red flag.