2 Men charged with murder of unarmed man Ahmaud Arbery in GA

[Blimey]

Ok watch the video where the fucking lawyer goes over the whole thing

2 Men charged with murder of unarmed man Ahmaud Arbery in GA

Trespassing. I thought they were on a public road at the time ?

nygunforum.com

 

[Edwardteach72]

2 Men charged with murder of unarmed man Ahmaud Arbery in GA

Trespassing. I thought they were on a public road at the time ?

nygunforum.com

???

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Media will either push race, hate crime or banning gun agenda. Let’s all wait until the all the facts presents itself. Remember innocent until proven guilty, the brother shouldn’t have died regardless. There is a lot is skeptical statements and actions involved with this case, we have to stop jumping to conclusions and just wait to see what happens. IMO it could either go 2 ways. 1). The court find these two gentleman guilty with a little bit of help from the media and the potential backlash from the public or 2). Won’t go down for murder but something less, do a little jail time and going back to do what they do best. If they are found guilty of murder expect some form of gun control from this mark my words.

 

[Edwardteach72]

2 Men charged with murder of unarmed man Ahmaud Arbery in GA

Trespassing. I thought they were on a public road at the time ?

nygunforum.com

What does this have to do with the video that a lawyer who well passed law school and the bar exam has to say about it.

He even breaks down each part of the law individually and goes over how the dude still didnt meet the requirements ..


But let me guess you won't watch it because you know more about the law than a lawyer???

 

[Blimey]

What does this have to do with the video that a lawyer who well passed law school and the bar exam has to say about it.

He even breaks down each part of the law individually and goes over how the dude still didnt meet the requirements ..


But let me guess you won't watch it because you know more about the law than a lawyer???

I’m not watching a video. I will take your word for it. I guess in Georgia anybody can enter any construction site whenever they want unless specifically told not to. I am surprised. I imagine the two guys who stopped the victim here also didn’t know that it is 100% legal to enter a construction site unless told not to and beyond any reasonable doubt engaged in a crime such as theft of supplies.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I’m not watching a video. I will take your word for it. I guess in Georgia anybody can enter any construction site whenever they want unless specifically told not to. I am surprised.

Hahaha imagine being so grumpy that there is actual video on how the dude didnt commit a crime from a lawyer and youre just going to stop your feet and refuse to watch it

 

[Chevusa]

Hahaha imagine being so grumpy that there is actual video on how the dude didnt commit a crime from a lawyer and youre just going to stop your feet and refuse to watch it

Hope you didn't get that vibe from me. I legit took your word for it. I just didn't want to watch a video

 

[Darth]

“Guys, I’m sure if we look at it long enough we will FIND something in his past that justifies this blatant murder.”

Jaywalking!? A regular scofflaw! To the gallows!

 

[Blimey]

Hahaha imagine being so grumpy that there is actual video on how the dude didnt commit a crime from a lawyer and youre just going to stop your feet and refuse to watch it

I just said I agree with you. He didn’t trespass. unless he intended to rob the place, in which case he did trespass. But as he is dead we’ll never actually know.

We shouldn’t even be discussing it as nobody in this thread thinks the gunmen were justified in any case.

 

[Chevusa]

“Guys, I’m sure if we look at it long enough we will FIND something in his past that justifies this blatant murder.”

Jaywalking!? A regular scofflaw! To the gallows!

I heard he was a double-parker

 

[CaseHardened]

I’m not watching a video. I will take your word for it. I guess in Georgia anybody can enter any construction site whenever they want unless specifically told not to. I am surprised. I imagine the two guys who stopped the victim here also didn’t know that it is 100% legal to enter a construction site unless told not to and beyond any reasonable doubt engaged in a crime such as theft of supplies.

If I were jogging or walking by a house under construction, I might totally go in just to see what it is like.

Out of curiousity, only.

 

[Blimey]

Strange . Father and son 'had earlier confrontation with Ahmaud Arbery'

 

[Darth]

I heard he was a double-parker

Looks like he got off lightly then.

 

[Blimey]

If I were jogging or walking by a house under construction, I might totally go in just to see what it is like.

Out of curiousity, only.

I have done it a bunch of times

 

[Chevusa]

I have done it a bunch of times

@CaseHardened That's our "white privilege" fellas.

 

[Blimey]

Oh. I’m going to now backout of my earlier position that maybe he wasn’t trespassing. Per that article I just posted:

Current owner, Larry English Jr., bought it in June 2016 for $120,000 and has built the majority of the structure which has a sign posted outside, warning: 'Trespassers will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.'

 

[CaseHardened]

@CaseHardened That's our "white privilege" fellas.

Not really.

I'm fairly certain no one ever saw me at all.

 

[CaseHardened]

@CaseHardened That's our "white privilege" fellas.

And the simple fact is that Blacks, proportionally, commit more crimes than any other race in America.

People of all races, including Blacks themselves, jump to conclusions when Blacks are involved.

It's not bigotry, it's just fact. And it is sad.

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

― Jesse Jackson

 

[Edwardteach72]

Oh. I’m going to now backout of my earlier position that maybe he wasn’t trespassing. Per that article I just posted:

Weird yet again maybe go watch the video where the lawyer goes over the state law

 

[Chevusa]

And the simple fact is that Blacks, proportionally, commit more crimes than any other race in America.

People of all races, including Blacks themselves, jump to conclusions when Blacks are involved.

It's not bigotry, it's just fact. And it is sad.

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

― Jesse Jackson

I'm not arguing with you at all. I think what we need is a prayer session led by our very own spiritual leader, @Darth and this will be all better. He will also let us know who to make our checks out to

 

[Blimey]

Go to 4:00. And specifically 4:50 where noir refers to "as far as we know" there were no signs.

According to this (Father and son 'had earlier confrontation with Ahmaud Arbery') there was a sign warning against trespass.

I agree with Noir. The existence of that sign does mean arbery trespassed. So we can put that to bed, he broke the law.

Now, still, nobody in this thread has argued that going into a house constituted being stopped by armed men. And for the record I have entered many construction sites, but none with these signs. Most don't bother. Those that have it I skip past.

 

[Blimey]

Weird yet again maybe go watch the video where the lawyer goes over the state law

I did, and Noir asserts he broke the law based on the existence of a sign. Go to 4:50.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Sometimes people don’t wanna see the truth because it will destroy their opinion. Saving face is more important than learning.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I did, and Noir asserts he broke the law based on the existence of a sign. Go to 4:50.

No he said that like a no gun sign in many states the management has to specifically tell you to not be there for it to equal trespassing.. so yea maybe rewatch the video cause you clearly didnt or atleast you didnt pay attention

 

[Blimey]

No he said that like a no gun sign in many states the management has to specifically tell you to not be there for it to equal trespassing.. so yea maybe rewatch the video cause you clearly didnt or atleast you didnt pay attention

Dude.

I thought you were right earlier. Please realize now you're not. Noir, in the video you keep telling me to watch, specifically says at 4:54 if there was a sign saying no trespassing that it was trespassing. You got that bit, right?

Now you're arguing that I can put a thousand no trespassing signs up on my private property but unless I specifically verbally say to the person not to that it's okay? Total rubbish.

 

[Blimey]

Georgia Trespassing 101

In one way or another we encounter sign posts with the above inscriptions posted on fences and trees. But what do those words mean? What does criminal trespassi

bixonlaw.com

D.A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, occupant, or representative that such entry is forbidden.

Prohibition to enter a premise must be taken seriously. If there are “no trespassing” signs posted on fences, tress, or barb wires of a private property, it is better to avoid or get out of the property.

 

[spat]

I "bought" the Trayvon Story for about an hour, until I realized NBC was posting a pic of Trayvon as a child, and not actual the murderous adult.

I never "bought" the Mike Brown BS, nor the much older Rodney King crap.

But this story has been out a few days, and so far it looks legit.

Still, it has been blown up WAYYYYY out of proportion by those with an Agenda.

People, of every color, get murdered by People, of every color.

Some are "Hate Crimes", some are not.

99% should be handled locally.

Very sad, but Nationally a Non-Story.

There are only 2 kinds of crime.

Hate crime and greed crime.

Why we think one is worse than the other I don't know.

 

[spat]

No way that is true.

I can’t just decide to go for a walk up some random stranger’s long private driveway and assume I can keep doing it until I’m told explicitly not to. Or turn an estate’s lawn into my own private park. In neither case any damage done and no intent to rob.

It kinda is.

That long private driveway isn't legally any different than that large private corn field.

Absent fences and locked gates or at least "posted" signs it is legal to wander wherever you want regardless of who owns the property.

That is why they have those "posted" signs every few hundred feet around property all over the place.

Now, I would assume that any contractor worth his salt has posted the necessary signs around a construction site. If they were, then it is trespassing. But absent signage to the contrary, he can legally wander around and "explore".

 

[Blimey]

Now, I would assume that any contractor worth his salt has posted the necessary signs around a construction site. If they were, then it is trespassing. But absent signage to the contrary, he can legally wander around and "explore".

Looks that way. In this case it appears also that the sign was in fact posted, ergo trespassing. According to Georgia state law.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Dude.

I thought you were right earlier. Please realize now you're not. Noir, in the video you keep telling me to watch, specifically says at 4:54 if there was a sign saying no trespassing that it was trespassing. You got that bit, right?

Now you're arguing that I can put a thousand no trespassing signs up on my private property but unless I specifically verbally say to the person not to that it's okay? Total rubbish.

I do not think you watched the whole video. He clearly explains why it isn’t trespass. It says that you have to do so for an unlawful purpose. The mere act of going in isn’t enough. It has to be for an unlawful purpose. And because he didn’t steal anything, there was no unlawful purpose.

Also, if there was a sign, that isn’t enough under Georgia law. You have to be told and then choose to remain there. Colin explains this in detail.

And finally in order to stop someone and place him or her under citizen’s arrest, the one you arrest would have to commit a felony in your presence. No felony was committed. At most it would be a misdemeanor if he stole a hammer or if a sign held water.

You clearly didn’t watch the video. You skimmed it.