minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
FWIW, you should sell it all and get a 10mm. We all know 9mm is weak and .45 auto will kill your soul. But criminals/thugs have no soul so .45 would be uselesss.
9 or 45?
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mickw
.40 S&W
Obviously it's completely up to you, but I say keep both. I have a Glock 17 and 26 for range/carry and a Glock 21 for my bedside gun. I love shooting both calibers, so I don't see myself consolidating to just 9mm.
mosquito
.40 S&W
If you reload.....it doesn't matter if you go .45ACP or .10mm. If you do not reload then there is a significant difference in the cost of ammo, between the two. At retail store pricing: .45 ACP is around $22.00 a box while .10mm is around $40.00 per box.
Skeeter
GTN
.308 Win
I reload for the 9&45.
It would probably be so time consuming to sell 2 guns, ammo, holsters and reloading supplies. Plus losing $ is something I hate.
Maybe for now it's time to move the 45's to the basement safe and concentrate on my 9
It would probably be so time consuming to sell 2 guns, ammo, holsters and reloading supplies. Plus losing $ is something I hate.
Maybe for now it's time to move the 45's to the basement safe and concentrate on my 9
I like both rounds equally for different reasons.
Most of my EDC guns are chambered in 9mm. I have the XDS45 as one EDC gun.
I love shooting 1911's. Not the fake 1911's in 9mm; 45ACP or nothing.
Both have their place in my heart.
Most of my EDC guns are chambered in 9mm. I have the XDS45 as one EDC gun.
I love shooting 1911's. Not the fake 1911's in 9mm; 45ACP or nothing.
Both have their place in my heart.
What about .38 super? That's a traditional 1911 cartridge. And a damn cool one too. I saw boxes and boxes of the stuff at Cabellas today.
I have shot many, many different guns and many calibers; I have never shot the 38 Super.
I'm just respectfully taking issue with you ".45 or nothing" statement, hey you wanted gun talk after all. The .38 super and 10mm are both fine, manly cartidges for a 1911.
I can run with the conversation...
Just a tiny bit of history...
The M1911 is a single action, semi Automatic, magazine fed, recoil operated pistol chambered for the 45 ACP cartridge.
Absolutely not a shot at other calibers. Just love the 45 being fired out of the 1911.
Yeah but .38 super out of a 1911 has a super cool roaring 20s/ prohibition 30s vibe to it. Hell I think I'm selling myself on one now! I wonder what .38 super availability is like these days?
When you come up here I will bring a couple for you to shoot. I got rid of my 1911 in Super though. It was converted to a 45. I still have a couple of semis in 38 super.
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if you live near a place that has a lot of competitions you may be able to find some in the local gun stores. You most likely will not find it in the big box stores. I would not recommend it as a self defense caliber as your choices of SD ammo are limited.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
As far as ballistics are concerned, check out these two videos below. Both bullets are from the same manufacturer. The 9mm 124 gr+P penetrated to 13.25 inches and expanded to .614 inches. The .45 acp 230 gr penetrated to 12.5 inches and expanded to .707 inches.
There's not much difference in my opinion except you gain better hard barrier penetration with the 9mm going at about 300 fps faster. I'd post the frying pan video but some .45 acp fanboys get upset that the slow velocity of their Holy Grail Bullet failed to penetrate the pan.
124 gr+P Speer Gold Dot
230 gr Speer Gold Dot
On second thought. Eff it. Here's the frying pan video. All calibers that were less than 1000 fps failed to penetrate the hard barrier.
There's not much difference in my opinion except you gain better hard barrier penetration with the 9mm going at about 300 fps faster. I'd post the frying pan video but some .45 acp fanboys get upset that the slow velocity of their Holy Grail Bullet failed to penetrate the pan.
124 gr+P Speer Gold Dot
230 gr Speer Gold Dot
On second thought. Eff it. Here's the frying pan video. All calibers that were less than 1000 fps failed to penetrate the hard barrier.
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I bet ya a 500gr .50S&W downloadednto 900fps would punch though the pan.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
BINGO!
When reloading, .45ACP 230gr FMJ runs me $8.50 per 50-round box plus brass. I've got my own reclaimed brass. If I have to use all once-fired purchased brass for around $0.06/case, that makes a 50-round box $11.50.
(For those interested, reloaded 115gr and 124gr FMJ 9mm runs me about $6.00/box of 50 rounds plus brass...so a max of around $7.50/50-rounds using $0.03/case once-fired brass.)
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Maybe.
I'd betcha a dollar........ no $5.
mosquito
.40 S&W
Phazer, your calculations are spot on as far as costs go, to load .45 ACP! If someone happens to be able to buy components at an even bigger bulk/or wholesale price.........that number will come down, even more! If you have brass, .10mm will be right around the same price!
Skeeter
Just when we thought the dreaded .9mm couldn't be topped, here is the brutally terrifying .10mm!
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Is that round more or less intimidating if we call it "1 centimeter" instead?
Well considering that 1 centimeter is 100 millimeters, yes that is much more intimidating, though inaccurate.
What is .1 of a millimeter? A nanometer?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ummmm........
Did I get that wrong? I am a bit dyslexic with my numbers.
Harry Hood
.223 Rem
Anyone bring up the .40 S&W yet? Oh wait.
Darth, experiment time.
Plinking: .22lr handgun or rifle
Shits & giggles: .32 with NAA Guardian
Target practice: any & all; then again, 9mm & .45 with my Shields & 1911's with practice drawing / firing. Also practice drawing / firing with .38 spcl & .357 from SP101, and practice with several different 9mm's as well.
Bedside: .308 rifle, M&P full size .45, 12ga., machete, and unspecified other.
Summer carry: SP101 EDC, and Shield 9 or .45 BUG
Coat carry: 1911 .45 EDC, and Shield .45 BUG
No interest in 10mm or .40.
Shits & giggles: .32 with NAA Guardian
Target practice: any & all; then again, 9mm & .45 with my Shields & 1911's with practice drawing / firing. Also practice drawing / firing with .38 spcl & .357 from SP101, and practice with several different 9mm's as well.
Bedside: .308 rifle, M&P full size .45, 12ga., machete, and unspecified other.
Summer carry: SP101 EDC, and Shield 9 or .45 BUG
Coat carry: 1911 .45 EDC, and Shield .45 BUG
No interest in 10mm or .40.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I hear you on that one. My health insurance went up $6,000 last year. That was a lot of my fun money. I've started doing landscaping to buy guns. Thanks Obama.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It is all a matter of trade offs. Why stop at the 10mm then? Why not a 44 AMP?
It might be perfect for those with super strong fapper hands. lol
It might be perfect for those with super strong fapper hands. lol