A decade after the SAFE Act, gun policy polarization continues

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Grimscale said:
Has there ever been a pure unSAFE Act arrest that led to an actual unSAFE Act conviction, or did they, as usual, offer the perp a lower charge as a "deal" to prevent it from ever being challenged in court?
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To my knowledge there has never been a "pure" SAFE Act arrest. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Catskillkid said:
To my knowledge there has never been a "pure" SAFE Act arrest. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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There is a case in process currently.

Pure Safe Act Arrest?

https://leaderherald.com/gloversville-local-news-johnstown-local-news/local-news/2022/12/police-detail-weapons-seized-from-amsterdam-alderman/ Cliff notes- Homeslice, who happens to be a city council member, told a friend he wanted to off himself and the police intervened. Cops put him on 72...
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Cavalry said:
There is a case in process currently.

Pure Safe Act Arrest?

https://leaderherald.com/gloversville-local-news-johnstown-local-news/local-news/2022/12/police-detail-weapons-seized-from-amsterdam-alderman/ Cliff notes- Homeslice, who happens to be a city council member, told a friend he wanted to off himself and the police intervened. Cops put him on 72...
nygunforum.com nygunforum.com
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Not a pure safe act. The rifle had THREE ( pistol grip, a forward grip and a flash suspensor ) evil features as well as 30 round magazine. I believe it was illegal before the SAFE act.
 
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Truebeliever said:
Not a pure safe act. The rifle had THREE ( pistol grip, a forward grip and a flash suspensor ) evil features as well as 30 round magazine. I believe it was illegal before the SAFE act.
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The old law has no bearing on the new one. But yes we can assume that it was not a pre '94 since DD was started in 2000ish. The 30 round mag very well could have been a pre 94 dated GI mag, or it could have been a p-mag made 6 months ago. We do not have that information.

Without more information we dont know a lot of things. Was this brought in from out of state in that configuration? Was it mag locked and then converted? Was it mag locked and in compliance, but they dont care? Was it purchaced when he was LEO and it was ok for him to buy?
My biggest question is who plunks down $2K+ on an "illegal" rifle, but only has one 30 round magazine?
 
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Cavalry said:
The old law has no bearing on the new one. But yes we can assume that it was not a pre '94 since DD was started in 2000ish. The 30 round mag very well could have been a pre 94 dated GI mag, or it could have been a p-mag made 6 months ago. We do not have that information.

Without more information we dont know a lot of things. Was this brought in from out of state in that configuration? Was it mag locked and then converted? Was it mag locked and in compliance, but they dont care? Was it purchaced when he was LEO and it was ok for him to buy?
My biggest question is who plunks down $2K+ on an "illegal" rifle, but only has one 30 round magazine?
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I didn’t mention the magazine for the very reason you mention. But the rifle was illegal before the safe act therefore it’s not a pure safe act violation.
Once this CCIA bs is defeated in court , the “ assault rifle” evil feature bans should be on the list to be challenged.
 
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A decade later and the State has never admitted how many complied...

Lmao!

Because they would never admit the law was an utter failure!

That is all...


Here's a copy from a Gun Forum Post in a Free State (to which I'm moving) lol...

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It will be great if the court rules in our favor. The problem is the second ciruit. If we win in the lower court the second circuit will likely slow walk it and I doubt they would rule in our favor. The only hope would be that they would rule quickly so we can get it in front of the supreme court. AWB cases are popping up in a lot of places, so one is bound to make it there. Just have to hope it's soon.
 
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Catskillkid said:
To my knowledge there has never been a "pure" SAFE Act arrest. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes there has been. I’m aware of a few but they were not prosecuted. I know a lot of cops and a guy was selling guns without background checks but the judge tossed it because he wanted a jury trial. I also know of a Canadian being arrested for a full featured AR-15 in NYS.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Yes there has been. I’m aware of a few but they were not prosecuted. I know a lot of cops and a guy was selling guns without background checks but the judge tossed it because he wanted a jury trial. I also know of a Canadian being arrested for a full featured AR-15 in NYS.
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arrests and lose of jobs and $$$$$$ later Charges droped .. NYS does not want a conviction .. would give the person major Standing ..

and the best part is they give you the same gun back that they arrested you for it . . with all its evil plastic attachments still on it ..

and the shoulder flip up full auto device ..
 
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Grimscale said:
Do they actually return the person's property?
I thought they simply kept or destroy it and tell the person "we're dropping the charges but the gun is illegal so you can't have it back."
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Yeah, I find it very difficult to believe that NY, with their draconian laws ,would arrest you for having an evil, scary looking , baby slaying, fully featured “assault “rifle , then lower the charges to something minuscule, and then give you your death machine back to bring home. If that’s the case , the arrest was bogus from the start. Arrest you for something, charge you for something else, and then give you back what you unlawfully possessed and were arrested for in the first place????? Just don’t see that happening,
 
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Grimscale said:
Do they actually return the person's property?
I thought they simply kept or destroy it and tell the person "we're dropping the charges but the gun is illegal so you can't have it back."
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yes .. my brother was arrested for a 10/22 with all the evil plastic .. then got it back a year or so later along with all the other guns they took .

i would argue since they dropped the safe act charges .. they either have to give it back or pay you for it ..

dropping the charge is .. is like .. ohhh my bad .. don't tell daddy / mommy ..
 
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