A Frustrating Tale Of Insane Gun Laws

[Dr. Evil]

I am a NH resident. I am an 11 year Veteran of the United States Army, retiring honorably as an E-5/SGT. I am a Combat Veteran of the War in Iraq. In August of 2013, while visiting my family in MA, I ran into a cop reguarding a bullshit traffic thing. Wasnt even a violation... I parked in a community college parking lot 13' away from my parents driveway and the cop wanted to know why I was parking there. I informed him I had a pistol in my glovebox, legally purchased and owned, and I had a NH concealed carry permit, passing all required federal background checks and what have you to acquire... However, MA does not accept NH permits because in NH it costs $8, and in MA they require QUITE a bit more to "allow" you to practice a Constitutional Right. Know this: no "crime" was committed. No threatening, no brandishing, no assaults or robberies or shootouts... I simply HAD it in my possession. In my possession with the wrong piece of paper. Because of the MA sheeples unbelieveably confusing and fucking stupid "gun laws", as well as their "mandatory minimum" laws, I have been looking at a mandatory 3 years in State prison for the past 6 years. How can you live a life w 3 years in a cage hanging over your head? This has cost me careers and relationships and countless amounts of stress and anxiety and depression... 6 years I have been living w this... and the shit part hasnt even started yet. Keep in mind, when this arrest happened, I was actively serving as a SGT in the MA National Guard! 11 days after the arrest... I reported to drill... in MA... Where MA issued me my m-16 and I actually gave a class on its proper handling during Combat Operations... because of my experience in such situations... All of this occuring IN MASSACHUSETTS... While i was facing MA charges for keeping a .32 in my glovebox... I couldnt make this shit up...

So on 20 May (7 days from today) I will be sentenced to a 2 year bit in prison for practicing a constitutional right. The DA was "kind enough" to knock the felony charges down to misdemeanors if I plead guilty to all the silly extra charges they added on after the fact. You know... Like my "assaulting a police officer" by repeatedly striking him in the fist w my face, etc... Know this, Sergeant Brian Dolan serving a 2 year sentence will stop EXACTLY ZERO crimes. Not a one. But keep pushing for your fucking stupid "gun control", making criminals out of ordinary people and Patriots. Veterans are very scary after all...

I dont want your sympathy. I shouldve done more research. I had called the MA State Police and asked if I could be in possession of a firearm in MA w a NH permit and was given a long and rambling answer, the jist of which was yes, I could be in possession but not carry concealed. Which made sense... But was completely wrong. If the State Police can't make heads or tails of the laws in their state... How am I supposed to...? But I digress...

How long has the Reciprocity Bill been collecting dust...? You know... The Bill that, if passed, would make this dreadful "crime" no longer a "crime"...? But please tell me more about fucking tax returns...

"Gun control" only hurts the people who follow laws. See you all on the other side.

-SGT Brian Dolan, US Army (Retired)

 

[Jmac00]

Idiot, your first mistake was ignorance. Your second mistake was opening your mouth to a LEO. Now your 'honesty' has ruined your life

Never, ever divulge more information than asked.

 

[Celt]

Damn, the first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club.

The second rule is never keep things (like guns, knives, tasers, brass knuckles, clubs, bats, axes, swords, etc...)that are under attack by the left with your other important documents.

But it is insane how we dont have reciprocity yet. Trump needs to push congress for this in his 2nd term. It has to be then or never.

 

[Airborneguy]

He knew. The laws suck, sending him to jail achieves nothing and he’s right that it’s ironic that MA would hand him an M-16 only days later, but he knew.

 

[oc shooter]

Brother I'm with nothing that I can do to help but I am with you

 

[SomeSoldier]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[Steal2B]

Damn, the first rule of Fight Club as you don't talk about Fight Club.

The second rule is never keep things (like guns, knives, tasers, brass knuckles, clubs, bats, axes, swords, etc...)that are under attack by the left with your other important documents.

But it is insane how we dont have reciprocity yet. Trump needs to push congress for this in his 2nd term. It has to be then or never.

Good post.

There is wisdom in fight club rules.

There realistically could be a two year window after 2020 to pass retropocity but so far I trust McCarthy less than Ryan as leader with a majority and retropocity will have to be aggressively pushed hard as a priority.

 

[Gonzobird]

This sucks for him but it take less than a minute on google to know which state accepts which permits.

And why the hell did he let the cop know he had a handgun with him? And the DA didn't give him a deal. Even though he got a misdemeanor he is going to jail for over a year. He is now a prohibited person in the BATFs eyes.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Obviously ignorance is not a defense. Yes, he should know the law. Yes, he should also have kept quiet. The bigger underlying issue here though is the stupidity of the law. That is the foundation of the problem.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Does this individual not have TV or a newspaper or belong to a RKBA organization? Did he not get the memo that the US has been divided into 50 fiefdoms managed by elected morons?

Don't tap dance in a minefield!

 

[repete]

I feel for him but DAMN what a dumb ass move! Hell I don't even tell the NY cops I'm carrying and I have a NYS permit!

 

[Gunright]

I just here for all of the comments that he deserved what he got by all the smart people who think ordinary people should be a walking dictionary on state by state gun laws.

Yes, my statement is a bit harsh. And yes, it sounds like this dude made some mistakes. But I have yet to see a thread here about an arrest for a dumb-ass law that doesn't result in tons of posts about the person being a dumb shit and deserving what they got.

 

[Criticalt]

I just here for all of the comments that he deserved what he got by all the smart people who think ordinary people should be a walking dictionary on state by state gun laws.

Yes, my statement is a bit harsh. And yes, it sounds like this dude made some mistakes. But I have yet to see a thread here about an arrest for a dumb-ass law that doesn't result in tons of posts about the person being a dumb shit and deserving what they got.

This is the kind of thing you learn the first day you own a gun.
Know when and where you can carry your gun. As mentioned above, it takes less than 1 minute to google reciprocity laws by state.
Day one shit also includes learning when and where you are justified to use deadly force and how to operate your gun.
If he really called and was told it was legal, he needs to find the guy who said that.
Thats gonna be tough though, Mass laws strictly and directly forbid what he did.

 

[Airborneguy]

I just here for all of the comments that he deserved what he got by all the smart people who think ordinary people should be a walking dictionary on state by state gun laws.

Yes, my statement is a bit harsh. And yes, it sounds like this dude made some mistakes. But I have yet to see a thread here about an arrest for a dumb-ass law that doesn't result in tons of posts about the person being a dumb shit and deserving what they got.

Regardless of the laws or how we view them, do you think that someone who can’t be bothered to google an easily-found answer to reciprocity questions (one of the most clear aspects of gun laws) has taken the time to study use of force and self-defense laws?

Gun ownership is a serious matter, especially carrying in public. Shame on anyone who fails to treat it as such.

Does he deserve what he got? No, because it should be legal to carry everywhere in the nation. Since it is not, I can’t feel bad for him at all.

 

[Robin]

Fuck every god damn asshole that would put this man in jail and anyone that thinks he somehow earned his place there. What the fuck country do we live in?!?!?!?!?! Your in or you're out!
Robin

 

[ProgSpear]

When guns are outlawed only about 100 million outlaws will have guns.

 

[togmaster]

I'm sure the DA got a pat on the back and an 'at a boy.

 

[turbobike]

It's all about "DA conviction rates" and mostly money. None of these laws and arrests make/fit any common sense, until you look at our current (in)justice system as a business!
According to 2016 (latest) NY crime stats, the severity and amount of people being arrested has steadily declined. Hence they have to create new laws (ie DWI was .1, now .08, and soon to be .05) not saying people consuming alcohol should be on the road, just pointing out the NYS needs to keep a constant supply of fresh new convicts in the pipeline. Allot of business and income is generated by the whole criminal business model.

 

[Jmac00]

I just here for all of the comments that he deserved what he got by all the smart people who think ordinary people should be a walking dictionary on state by state gun laws.

Yes, my statement is a bit harsh. And yes, it sounds like this dude made some mistakes. But I have yet to see a thread here about an arrest for a dumb-ass law that doesn't result in tons of posts about the person being a dumb shit and deserving what they got.

LOL, this is a pretty ignorant post. NO ONE here thinks this guy "got what he deserved"

we do think, he was/is an idiot for (1) not knowing the laws of the states he visits, (2) opening his damn mouth.

even though we SHOULD have reciprocity (thank god for spell check), the simple truth is we DON'T, and right now, in this world, we have to play by someone else's dipshit, fucked up rules.

So thats why we are upset with this guy. That, and the monumental amount of money he spent defending himself .

 

[Jmac00]

When guns are outlawed only about 100 million outlaws will have guns.

what gun's, I don't have no stinking guns

 

[Saltwater60]

What makes this moron tell a cop he has a gun. He was parking in the wrong spot. Under no circumstances does that lead to a car search unless it gets towed.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I just here for all of the comments that he deserved what he got by all the smart people who think ordinary people should be a walking dictionary on state by state gun laws.

Yes, my statement is a bit harsh. And yes, it sounds like this dude made some mistakes. But I have yet to see a thread here about an arrest for a dumb-ass law that doesn't result in tons of posts about the person being a dumb shit and deserving what they got.

You should be able to carry anywhere in the country. With that said you got to be a fool not to research where you're going and another fool to disclose to the police that you're carrying. If somehow my travels found me in Jersey by taking a wrong turn and I get pulled over, I'm smart enough to know that most cops will not honor their oaths so I don't say shit.

I won't even mention it here in NY. Why? Because if I run into an anti-gun cop, I don't want to step out of the car and be disarmed for his safety for a stupid traffic violation. I just want my ticket and go.

More can come wrong than right by telling a cop that you're armed even if you are legal. You just don't know who you're going to run into. Most cops aren't that way but that 1 cop in 10 could make your life miserable or probably even take your life if he thinks you made the wrong move.

Only time that I will disclose that I'm an armed and licensed concealed carrier is if I'm ordered to step out of the vehicle.

 

[Darth]

We have a lot of holier than thou CCW law experts coming from a state that has the SAFE act and seeing how well we all understand that .

And you can study state laws until the cows come home, but that means nothing when you aren't in the state you think you are. Coming home from PA one day I was carrying and may or may not have cut through a portion of NJ without even knowing it until after the fact.

 

[Vapor]

It didn't please the crown.

 

[Dr. Evil]

A few weeks ago I was driving to Alfred to visit my oldest son. At one point my GPS said, "Welcome to Pennsylvania." About 40 seconds later my GPS said, "Welcome to NY." If I was pulled over during that 40 seconds I would have been breaking the law. Yeah, gun laws are that fucking stupid.

 

[spat]

What this guy did was like leaving a yarmulke in the glove box in Nazi Germany.

Yep it's not bright.
Yep it's illegal.

But, in no way was what he did "wrong" and everyone of the people involved in the process that will result in his imprisonment are complicit in the evil that has occurred.

 

[Celt]

What makes this moron tell a cop he has a gun. He was parking in the wrong spot. Under no circumstances does that lead to a car search unless it gets towed.

If I had to make an assumption, I would assume he had his registration and insurance in the glove box where he also had the gun. He, likely, wanted to inform the cop before going in there to get his documents where the cop could possibly see the gun and freak out.

 

[Airborneguy]

If I had to make an assumption, I would assume he had his registration and insurance in the glove box where he also had the gun. He, likely, wanted to inform the cop before going in there to get his documents where the cop could possibly see the gun and freak out.

To this day, I don't understand why people keep those documents in the glovebox for one simple, yet extremely important reason: how are you going to report your car stolen if it happens?

 

[Jmac00]

If I had to make an assumption, I would assume he had his registration and insurance in the glove box where he also had the gun. He, likely, wanted to inform the cop before going in there to get his documents where the cop could possibly see the gun and freak out.

this wasn't over a moving violation, it was about parking next to his parents house. all he had to do was say "ok. I'll move the car" ~~~ but nooo, he HAD to inform the officer he had a gun in the glove compartment???? I simply don't understand why you would blurt that information out. There WAS NO REASON to prove he owned the car. all he had to do was move. He is an idiot for opening his mouth.

The good news is, THIS INCIDENT is a lesson for the rest of us, STFU

 

[BDinPutnam]

To this day, I don't understand why people keep those documents in the glovebox for one simple, yet extremely important reason: how are you going to report your car stolen if it happens?

I have copies of all this shit in the fire safe at home.