Active Shooter Mandalay Bay

[freddy]

He wasn't to fucking afraid to die was he? that throws your whole theory in the trash where it belongs.. Nobody is going to buy that garbage.

Sometimes inmates on death row commit suicide. We all want to control the most that which we control the least.
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[holdover]

why? because they're afraid to die? Do you know how dam silly you sound? that's like somebody shooting themselves in the head because they're afraid somebody is going to shoot them in the head and that makes sense to you?

 

[freddy]

why? because they're afraid to die? Do you know how dam silly you sound? that's like somebody shooting themselves in the head because they're afraid somebody is going to shoot them in the head and that makes sense to you?

You see! There you go again expecting rationality from human beings.

 

[holdover]

what about the facts of case Freddy? how would you excuse the actions of the men in hallway not telling anybody that one of them was shot? How do you excuse the fact that no video from the hotel has been released?

 

[holdover]

You see! There you go again expecting rationality from human beings.

I am asking you

 

[holdover]

You see! There you go again expecting rationality from human beings.

why are you insisting that people do not have reasons for their actions? even animals have reasons for their actions

Your whole premise is bogus. even insane people have reasons

 

[freddy]

what about the facts of case Freddy? how would you excuse the actions of the men in hallway not telling anybody that one of them was shot? How do you excuse the fact that no video from the hotel has been released?

Me? I will wait for LE to do their job. Then, and only then, at which point they have a final report to explain the evidence and timeline etc, will I look closer. But that is not as much fun, I realize.

 

[ECU Pirates]

This is a weird one for sure. The silence is loud.

Holdover, do you know what Anderson Cooper did for the CIA and how long he worked there?

 

[freddy]

why are you insisting that people do not have reasons for their actions? even animals have reasons for their actions

Your whole premise is bogus. even insane people have reasons

Again, it is not my premise. As others have said...

"If we had to offer the briefest explanation of all the evil that men have wreaked upon themselves and upon their world since the beginning of time right up until tomorrow, it would be not in terms of man's animal heredity, his instincts and his evolution: it would be simply in the toll that his pretense of sanity takes, as he tries to deny his true condition" ​

 

[holdover]

You don't get it do ya? just for a minute , pretend that Law enforcement is under orders to cover up details that might not be flattering to some important people. DO you really think you would know the real facts?

Does Hillery Clinton ring any bells?

 

[holdover]

This is a weird one for sure. The silence is loud.

Holdover, do you know what Anderson Cooper did for the CIA and how long he worked there?

I read that he had interned there when he was in collage, but then he had a lot a of shady international assignments in some war torn countries right out of collage. The fact is CIA has been using journalists for years to get in and out of countries without raising a lot of suspicion,and to plant stories in the press, In my opinion hes still on the books .

 

[holdover]

Again, it is not my premise. As others have said...

"If we had to offer the briefest explanation of all the evil that men have wreaked upon themselves and upon their world since the beginning of time right up until tomorrow, it would be not in terms of man's animal heredity, his instincts and his evolution: it would be simply in the toll that his pretense of sanity takes, as he tries to deny his true condition" ​

yeah, your not giving me an answer here your giving an excuse.

 

[freddy]

You don't get it do ya? just for a minute , pretend that Law enforcement is under orders to cover up details that might not be flattering to some important people. DO you really think you would know the real facts?

I get it. But we will never really know will we? So in lieu of that, I will let LE do the work. Most times they do the best they can and try to deliver the facts as best as they can sort them out. Not always, I understand.

 

[ECU Pirates]

I read that he had interned there when he was in collage, but then he had a lot a of shady international assignments in some war torn countries right out of collage. The fact is CIA has been using journalists for years to get in and out of countries without raising a lot of suspicion,and to plant stories in the press, In my opinion hes still on the books .

He actually had an internship in the mid 80's then a summer job the next year. He was not exactly going into the vaults. There are starbucks people and that work at the CIA. There are also large groups of inters every year. How do you know all these "facts" about the CIA? I admit this shooting silence is telling but the CIA is not involved in everything bad that happens here. I think on a prior page you mentioned they might be involved in this shooting?

 

[freddy]

I read that he had interned there when he was in collage, but then he had a lot a of shady international assignments in some war torn countries right out of collage. The fact is CIA has been using journalists for years to get in and out of countries without raising a lot of suspicion,and to plant stories in the press, In my opinion hes still on the books .

I am guessing that you never went to collage, did you? Because if you had gone to collage, really truly gone to collage, then maybe, just maybe, you would know that 'collage' is a picture made by sticking bits of colored paper and cloth onto a paper!

 

[holdover]

AC is connected to some old money:

Cooper was born in New York City, the younger son of the writer Wyatt Emory Cooper and the artist, fashion designer, writer, and heiress Gloria Vanderbilt. His maternal grandparents were millionaire equestrian Reginald Claypoole Vanderbilt and socialite Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, and his maternal great-great-great-grandfather was business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, who founded the prominent Vanderbilt shipping and railroad fortune.[4] He is also a descendant, through his mother, of Civil War brevet Major General Hugh Judson Kilpatrick, who was with General William T. Sherman on his march through Georgia. Through his "Vanderbilt" line, he is a second cousin, once removed, of screenwriter James Vanderbilt.

During college, Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency. Although he has no formal journalistic education, he opted to pursue a career in journalism rather than stay with the agency.
After reporting from Burma, Cooper lived in Vietnam for a year to study the Vietnamese language at the University of Hanoi. Persuading Channel One to allow him to bring a Hi-8 camera with him, Cooper soon began filming and assembling reports of Vietnamese life and culture that aired on Channel One. He later returned to filming stories from a variety of war-torn regions around the globe, including Somalia, Bosnia, and Rwanda

Cooper is a spook.

 

[holdover]

I am guessing that you never went to collage, did you? Because if you had gone to collage, really truly gone to collage, then maybe, just maybe, you would know that 'collage' is a picture made by sticking bits of colored paper and cloth onto a paper!

I would say that is exactly your view of the world Freddy, litteral. You excuse the facts and details presented as if they had noting to do with what your observing.

Spelling is a terrible excuse for an argument . I bet I can find a few words you may have misspelled too.

 

[freddy]

I would say that is exactly your view of the world Freddy, litteral. You excuse the facts and details presented as if they had noting to do with what your observing.

Spelling is a terrible excuse for an argument . I bet I can find a few words you may have made too.

You are right, man. I'm just teasing you with the spelling. My spelling is terrable!

 

[holdover]

My grammer sucks too

Some times I post to soon , then after words correct my mistakes

 

[ECU Pirates]

AC is connected to some old money:

Cooper was born in New York City, the younger son of the writer Wyatt Emory Cooper and the artist, fashion designer, writer, and heiress Gloria Vanderbilt. His maternal grandparents were millionaire equestrian Reginald Claypoole Vanderbilt and socialite Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, and his maternal great-great-great-grandfather was business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, who founded the prominent Vanderbilt shipping and railroad fortune.[4] He is also a descendant, through his mother, of Civil War brevet Major General Hugh Judson Kilpatrick, who was with General William T. Sherman on his march through Georgia. Through his "Vanderbilt" line, he is a second cousin, once removed, of screenwriter James Vanderbilt.

During college, Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency. Although he has no formal journalistic education, he opted to pursue a career in journalism rather than stay with the agency.
After reporting from Burma, Cooper lived in Vietnam for a year to study the Vietnamese language at the University of Hanoi. Persuading Channel One to allow him to bring a Hi-8 camera with him, Cooper soon began filming and assembling reports of Vietnamese life and culture that aired on Channel One. He later returned to filming stories from a variety of war-torn regions around the globe, including Somalia, Bosnia, and Rwanda

Cooper is a spook.

Anyone else you are sure is a CIA agent?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Anyone else you are sure is a CIA agent?

I think @freddy is. That dude is "Spook" through and through. He seems to have a vested interest in suppressing the questions no matter how ridiculous the so called facts are that are presented to us.

 

[Cavalry]

Haven't seen this yet... Campos attended an awards dinner for his bravery from this event. Pictures from the dinner do not match the current configuration of the restaurant as it was remodeled months ago.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1508328376716.png?__cf_waf_tk__=086179002LPiggX6oNYT0ogIa4PU5PkicBaM

 

[holdover]

He actually had an internship in the mid 80's then a summer job the next year. He was not exactly going into the vaults. There are starbucks people and that work at the CIA. There are also large groups of inters every year. How do you know all these "facts" about the CIA? I admit this shooting silence is telling but the CIA is not involved in everything bad that happens here. I think on a prior page you mentioned they might be involved in this shooting?

I don't know anymore than you ,l only floated the idea as a possibility, among many.

I'm no spy expert, but I did read about operation mockingbird and the CIA infiltration of the press.

Of course AC isn't going to have a CIA card, and of course neither are going to admit it., but it's something to consider.

 

[Magnus]

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/man-st...as-gunman-describes-chaotic-terrifying-scene/

"After calling down to the desk, Morgan said hotel staff instructed him to barricade himself inside his room — explaining that they were aware of a “situation” on his floor and to remain calm.

He reportedly listened to the orders and built a pillow fort to protect himself as SWAT teams moved in to take out Paddock."

 

[freddy]

I think @freddy is. That dude is "Spook" through and through. He seems to have a vested interest in suppressing the questions no matter how ridiculous the so called facts are that are presented to us.

 

[holdover]

the CIA has been using journalists for years, which is a fact. Cooper fits the bill perfectly. It's not like they have a public employee list. And how advantageous would it be to have him on the payroll?

I understand that isn't proof, but if it doesn't raise your eyebrows a little bit your brain dead.

 

[holdover]

Your going to wait for law enforcement? Lol

Like Sandy hook? Nobody to this day knows the details

 

[Robin]

I remember reading something written by William Donovan, founder of the OSS, which became the CIA, having to do with recruiting agents from Ivy League schools and how they were the most apt to become moles and traitors.
Robin

 

[ECU Pirates]

the CIA has been using journalists for years, which is a fact. Cooper fits the bill perfectly. It's not like they have a public employee list. And how advantageous would it be to have him on the payroll?

I understand that isn't proof, but if it doesn't raise your eyebrows a little bit your brain dead.

The need for journalists is not nearly what it was in the '50's. With social media and the internet it's not really needed. Cooper is openly gay. That can cause problems in many countries. He's not the ideal spy. I hate to do this but it's "you're". If you are implying others are brain dead un-fuck your grammar.

 

[ECU Pirates]

I remember reading something written by William Donovan, founder of the OSS, which became the CIA, having to do with recruiting agents from Ivy League schools and how they were the most apt to become moles and traitors.
Robin

Old wild Bill. The guy is a legend. I guess ivy leaguers hated America even back then.....