Alec Baldwin Charged in “prop gun” shooting (Merged Threads)

[kaliber]

Too soon? Not for me!

 

[spat]

Just from the first read on his story there's a lot of negligence to go around. Prop gun or not, he had no business pointing it at people. AB is a privileged idiot. Of course whoever loaded the gun with real bullets should be charged with negligence at the very least. It will be very interesting to see how this goes.

I'll let you in on a secret, since you have apparently never seen an action movie.

They point guns at people they don't intend to shoot all the time.

 

[Celt]

How does a gun firing blanks...
...hit someone in the shoulder and require hospitalization, and
...hit someone in the gut and kill them,

... with the same shot?

...supposedly "blanks"?

And why are they calling it a "misfire" when the fucking thing went off?

Why would the prop master put real ammo into a prop gun?
Why wouldn't they simply crimp a boolit into a spent cartridge?

These are the same fucktards setting the anti-gun narrative in the media, folks.

Burn in hell, all of them.

Coulda been a shotgun, coulda been during rehersal, who knows.. not enough infobout there yet.

 

[nortatoga]

He liked the money and narcissistic pleasure of impersonating Donald Trump and the celebs say they will exit the US but to loose all their power and influence? I don’t think so.

Plus all these other Counties that they claim to want to move to will TAX them at a much higher rate then here!

 

[Phazer]

In 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself by firing a blank into his own head. He was probably never educated on what a blank could do.

As was stated in another post, Brandon Lee was killed when a prop team created squib loads, allowed a projectile to become seated in a barrel, and then followed up with a blank in a subsequent scene that launched the projectile.

This case is most likely negligence by a prop master. If Baldwin hit a cinematographer and the director, the actor was probably firing at the camera. If the shot was too close to the camera, and a possible acrylic COVID barrier, perhaps pieces of the barrier broke under pressure from the blank and became projectiles. Or, perhaps the blank had wadding made of an inappropriately solid material that became a projectile.

Though I despise Alec Baldwin, it is unlikely that he acted criminally.

 

[Paxal]

I know details are limited but you would think the accidental shooting would be another actor on the business end of the prop gun as opposed to off scene people. Maybe Baldwin being a jackass?

It all depends on how the shot was staged and where the camera is.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

AB is a hot headed liberal prick. He has coincidentally made a number of movies where he used firearms. I am not certain at this moment of his stance on firearms and the 2A though.

In any event, even if this turns out to not be his fault, just for being a lib asshole, I am kind of hoping this incident follows him forever; fucks with his head; and sends him into retirement from public life.

 

[kaliber]

AB is a hot headed liberal prick. He has coincidentally made a number of movies where he used firearms. I am not certain at this moment of his stance on firearms and the 2A though.

In any event, even if this turns out to not be his fault, just for being a lib asshole, I am kind of hoping this incident follows him forever; fucks with his head; and sends him into retirement from public life.

Trump should impersonate AB shooting people, lol.

 

[GTN]

If this was a real accident, charges against him should be light.

Yeah but non-hollywood elites like us would be charged to the fullest

 

[GOPerfect]

Yeah but non-hollywood elites like us would be charged to the fullest

Maybe and maybe not. I do not know all of the details of this case or similar ones. I cannot stand this guy, at all. Just because I have great disdain for him, does not mean I want him charged heavy or have his rights violated.

He is scum, if he is charged heavy, I will not loose sleep over it. Charges of some sort will come for sure.

 

[cgrutt]

Lest we forget who we're talking about...

Alec Baldwin hasn't learned to control his temper: A history of his bad behavior

Alec Baldwin's arrest on Friday is far from the first time he's gotten in trouble for losing his temper. Remember the voicemail and plane incidents?

www.google.com

Sure it could of been a tragic accident while in the ordinary course of filming a scene... have no idea what happened or how it happened but certainly wouldn't surprise me if we come to find out his temper had somehow played a part here.

FUAB

 

[2WheelGnnr]

BAN PROP GUNS.....PROP GUN CONTROL WOULDA STOPPED THAT FROM HAPPENING....!!!!!

 

[Doc8404]

In 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself by firing a blank into his own head. He was probably never educated on what a blank could do.

As was stated in another post, Brandon Lee was killed when a prop team created squib loads, allowed a projectile to become seated in a barrel, and then followed up with a blank in a subsequent scene that launched the projectile.

This case is most likely negligence by a prop master. If Baldwin hit a cinematographer and the director, the actor was probably firing at the camera. If the shot was too close to the camera, and a possible acrylic COVID barrier, perhaps pieces of the barrier broke under pressure from the blank and became projectiles. Or, perhaps the blank had wadding made of an inappropriately solid material that became a projectile.

Though I despise Alec Baldwin, it is unlikely that he acted criminally.

“COVID kills one, puts second in hospital.”

 

[GOYABEAN]

https://www.showbiz411.com/2021/10/22/exclusive-eyewitness-recounts-shooting-on-alec-baldwin-movie-set-one-bullet-ripped-through-both-victims

 

[Doc8404]

Ban Hollywood.

 

[livingston]

Anti gun folks still making money off movies with guns in them ....They have no standards do they...

 

[Jezman]

I do not know all the details but guns don't go bang unless the Trigger is pressed.

 

[livingston]

I do not know all the details but guns don't go bang unless the Trigger is pressed.

(sig )? ( I own 2 of them )

 

[spat]

https://www.showbiz411.com/2021/10/22/exclusive-eyewitness-recounts-shooting-on-alec-baldwin-movie-set-one-bullet-ripped-through-both-victims

So, an unintentional Quigley.

Based on this part of that article, I will blame Baldwin somewhat.

"On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”


If you don't know how to verify that for yourself when you are handed a gun, you need to learn before you accept it.

Making movies requires you to violate some of the rules of firearm safety, but there is nothing that prevents you from verifying at least that part yourself.

 

[masterswimmer]

AB's politics are that of an asshole.
AB's sense of humor, SNL skits, are that of an asshole.
AB's temper is that of an asshole.

However, this situation is an accident. Negligence for sure, but nevertheless there was no criminal intent, on AB's part. I can't speak to intent on the armorer or prop masters part though.

Other than AB having to close his eyes every night and suffer the pain of what he did there's only one other actor that deserves it more, Alyssa Milano.

 

[livingston]

There will be a big push to ban AR-15's because of this shooting...Alex will be leading the charge....

 

[Phazer]

Brandon Lee's family speaks out after Alec Baldwin movie shooting

The family of late actor Brandon Lee, as well as many others in Hollywood, spoke out after the accidental death of 'Rust' cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

ew.com

Everyone who has witnessed the safety protocols/safety meetings/barrel checks that go into a prop gun being used in a production is screaming HOW in the fuck did this happen.​

- June Diane Raphael (@MsJuneDiane) October 22, 2021​

EXACTLY!

 

[Phazer]

Tributes to woman accidentally 'shot' by Alec as armorer deletes social media

THE armorer who handled the gun before the accidental fatal shooting has shut down her social media accounts, and sources say she did so based on legal advice. Director of photography Halyna Hutchi…

www.the-sun.com

PROP GUN HAD 'A LIVE ROUND'​

The prop gun Alec Baldwin shot on set of the film Rust on Thursday had a "live round" in it, according to a union covering props masters.​

An email from the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE) Local 44, obtained by Indie Wire, called the incident an "accidental weapons discharge."​

"A live single round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor, hitting both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halyna Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza," the email said.​

"Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects, and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members."​

"There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet."​

​

WTF! Why would there ever be real ammunition on the set of a movie?

 

[Doc8404]

I always thought people guns couldn’t take live rounds.
guess I was wrong again.

 

[Phazer]

Check out this idiocy about "blank bullets" written by someone with no practical knowledge of firearms or ammunition.

Can a blank bullet kill you?

ALEC Baldwin accidentally shot and killed a cinematographer while leaving its director in a critical condition after shooting a prop gun on set of his new movie, Rust. But what exactly is a blank? …

www.thesun.co.uk

There is one major difference between bullets and blanks​

Ummm....blank CARTRIDGES do not have bullets.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Well this didn't age well

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[timboy]

Regardless of who's "fault" it was,Alec Baldwin is a murderer.

 

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