Alec Baldwin Charged in “prop gun” shooting (Merged Threads)

[BerettaGuy]

They have their fall guy. In the movie biz that's called a "wrap".

'Rust' assistant director admits he didn't check all rounds in gun before fatal shooting

Realizing that half the country (or more) is stupid when it comes to gun safety. They will hear this story and rush to the side of Baldwin as a victim of hate speech if you keep mentioning him and the shooting. Baldwin himself may agree too. It wasn't my fault he can say. That is because of the fake news and false facts that abound tied to the gun ignorant. I heard a radio report today that said. "there was a real bullet in the gun when the gun went off". Blaming the gun?
A.) It wasn't a prop gun. It was a real gun being used as a prop.
B.) You never mix real ammo with a blank exercise. If a live round is found during a blank exercise, the exercise is over.
C.) Baldwin was handed the gun improperly by a person who did not check the gun properly.
D.) Baldwin ef'd up by not checking the cylinder himself when the "gun" was handed to him improperly.
E.) I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Specifically his relationship with the "alleged" armorer. She thought her status was untouchable due to their relationship so her incompetence was exposed.

If He spent a little more time on Firearms training instead of bashing firearms users, someone's life would not have been snuffed out. Screw him and his elitist asshole ilk.

 

[livingston]

Alec Baldwin shooting: Sheriff says 500 rounds of ammo found on movie set​

 

[fresch]

Its being reported that it was a Pietta knockoff of a Colt. I do not know if they have modernized the design to incorporate a transfer bar for the hammer. If not, a ND could occur if there was a live round in the chamber and the hammer bounced while he was practicing his draw. Either way its pure negligence.

Transfer bar is incorporated in the $300 gun

 

[Cavalry]

They have their fall guy. In the movie biz that's called a "wrap".

'Rust' assistant director admits he didn't check all rounds in gun before fatal shooting

"Halls told investigators that his typical on-set safety protocol included him checking the gun barrel for "obstructions" before Gutierrez Reed opens the hatch of the weapon and spins its drum, the cylindrical rotating part of the gun that holds the rounds."

Jesus...and we wonder why they ND? They have gun "hatches", I am not sure what spinning the "drum" is going to do to prove what type of ammo its loaded with. They almost had it right with "cylindrical". I can only assume they mean gate and rotate, but sure, give the drum a spin.

 

[fresch]

The news had a retired DEA agent on who almost knew how a revolver worked, but failed.

 

[Blimey]

"Halls told investigators that his typical on-set safety protocol included him checking the gun barrel for "obstructions" before Gutierrez Reed opens the hatch of the weapon and spins its drum, the cylindrical rotating part of the gun that holds the rounds."

Jesus...and we wonder why they ND? They have gun "hatches", I am not sure what spinning the "drum" is going to do to prove what type of ammo its loaded with. They almost had it right with "cylindrical". I can only assume they mean gate and rotate, but sure, give the drum a spin.

The thingy that goes boom goes in this here, uh...crevice. This bit here is pulled back and when the trigger is pumped it snaps forward making the magazine shoot. If there is something stuck in the pointy tube it can stop the brass from coming out the other end, causing a misshoot. As head armorer on set I make sure to confirm the clips on all the revolvers are empty.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Realizing that half the country (or more) is stupid when it comes to gun safety. They will hear this story and rush to the side of Baldwin as a victim of hate speech if you keep mentioning him and the shooting. Baldwin himself may agree too. It wasn't my fault he can say. That is because of the fake news and false facts that abound tied to the gun ignorant. I heard a radio report today that said. "there was a real bullet in the gun when the gun went off". Blaming the gun?
A.) It wasn't a prop gun. It was a real gun being used as a prop.
B.) You never mix real ammo with a blank exercise. If a live round is found during a blank exercise, the exercise is over.
C.) Baldwin was handed the gun improperly by a person who did not check the gun properly.
D.) Baldwin ef'd up by not checking the cylinder himself when the "gun" was handed to him improperly.
E.) I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Specifically his relationship with the "alleged" armorer. She thought her status was untouchable due to their relationship so her incompetence was exposed.

If He spent a little more time on Firearms training instead of bashing firearms users, someone's life would not have been snuffed out. Screw him and his elitist asshole ilk.

I agree with much of what you write. I go a little different than most with who the fault lies one. I believe Baldwin is 110% liable. No one else. Sure. There are procedures that have to be followed but at the end of the day it's up to the person that's going to pull the trigger to check the gun. No one on this forum would ever do what he did. It's extremely basic gun safety. When I go to a gun shop and the person shows me clear and hands me a gun I STILL go ahead and check it anyway. You never know. And guess what. It takes 2 seconds. This instance is beyond unacceptable.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

"Halls told investigators that his typical on-set safety protocol included him checking the gun barrel for "obstructions" before Gutierrez Reed opens the hatch of the weapon and spins its drum, the cylindrical rotating part of the gun that holds the rounds."

Jesus...and we wonder why they ND? They have gun "hatches", I am not sure what spinning the "drum" is going to do to prove what type of ammo its loaded with. They almost had it right with "cylindrical". I can only assume they mean gate and rotate, but sure, give the drum a spin.

You don't think checking the barrel BEFORE opening the "hatch" and spinning the "drum" is an issue?

 

[fresch]

Why would it take the FBI to tell if a round is live?
I can do it in my basement.
Being California the ammo should easily be traceable.
The mishaps are due to lack of gun handling instructions and practice, most un gun people when handed a gun put the finger on the trigger as that's how the guns arm formed; plus your hands naturally curl.

 

[Robin]

Alec Baldwin shooting: Sheriff says 500 rounds of ammo found on movie set​

See, even those dip shit Hollywood assholes enjoy shooting in their free time.
Robin

 

[livingston]

See, even those dip shit Hollywood assholes enjoy shooting in their free time.
Robin

No Doubt Alex would have thrown a few rounds down range....A week later .. Go on the view proclaiming guns are bad...

 

[Cavalry]

You don't think checking the barrel BEFORE opening the "hatch" and spinning the "drum" is an issue?

lol your right. I was so mesmerized by technical jargon I lost place. Wonder if they do something sane like drop a dowel down the barrel, or legit look down the muzzle with a cylinder full of mystery?

 

[spat]

lol your right. I was so mesmerized by technical jargon I lost place. Wonder if they do something sane like drop a dowel down the barrel, or legit look down the muzzle with a cylinder full of mystery?

If they find a jar of unknown liquid in an industrial set, I bet their first instinct is "what does it taste like" too.

 

[fresch]

Glue eaters,

 

[stokes]

Glue sniffers

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Deplorable Me]

Actually, the elite woke has stopped calling traffic accidents (accidents) for years now. Collisions or wrecks or crash is the commonly accepted politically correct terms by the word police. But I hate to stink up the thread but the title is :
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IT WASN'T A PROP GUN!

It was a gun being used as a prop.

Was it Epstein's gun?

 

[Acer-m14]

“This can’t happen again,” declares Black Panther director of photography Rachel Morrison, the first woman nominated for an Oscar for cinematography for the 2017 film Mudbound. “Not ever. The technology is there to do most things without live fire.” CODE WORDS FOR WE NEED A NEW BAN!

Yeah right. Never again. News flash. They have to use "fake" look-alike guns in California already so STFU Black Panther director of photography Rachel Morrison, the first woman nominated for an Oscar for cinematography for the 2017 film Mudbound

Many "budding" filmmakers are on YouTube doing a better job. Never mind showing the firing of a revolver and hearing a cartridge hit the floor or using a BB Gun to portray a handgun. They figured out a way to make the point using downloadable sound effects and the visual point is made.
Back in the 50s and 60s, you were shown cowboys getting shot with no gore or so-called "realism". If you want realism go play GTA. Yeah, that is real realism! Or is it just gore and violence? When I hear people shouting we must make it so this never happens again. I say get back down the rabbit hole Alice. I reject your version of reality.

i got a idea .. ban all holly wood actors .. all movies are now CGI .. win win .. LOL ..

 

[Acer-m14]

Storm Trooper in Canada gets taken down by LEO ..

 

[Deplorable Me]

Alec, this is how you do it.....

 

[BerettaGuy]

Here again, I wonder, did Baldwin pull a Weinstein hiring her for the armorer's job? Was he getting a little sompin sompin in return? How many of you have a photo of yourself like this one? If you got em show em!
Come on now. Livingston? Dr Evil? Spat? Celt? Deplorable? come on you know you do. Vietnam Era? Acer? Lets see your "Hire me and I will be your Monica" picture.

 

[cgrutt]

Alec, this is how you do it.....

Disclaimer... no cast or crew were injured, maimed, disfigured or killed during filming of this motion picture... lol

 

[BerettaGuy]

 

[Phazer]

Thou

Disclaimer... no cast or crew were injured, maimed, disfigured or killed during filming of this motion picture... lol

Though...Michael J. Fox was almost asphyxiated during the hanging sequence.

 

[meketrefe]

Think how it must feel being in that pickle knowing you made 1/2 of America your enemy for getting so deep into BS politics vs just doing a few commedy skits and moving on.

 

[fresch]

I charge for my pics,

 

[Catskillkid]

Here again, I wonder, did Baldwin pull a Weinstein hiring her for the armorer's job? Was he getting a little sompin sompin in return? How many of you have a photo of yourself like this one? If you got em show em!
Come on now. Livingston? Dr Evil? Spat? Celt? Deplorable? come on you know you do. Vietnam Era? Acer? Lets see your "Hire me and I will be your Monica" picture.

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I charge for my pics,

Same. Get a subscription to my Only Fans page if you want to see the good stuff.

 

[meketrefe]

 

[Bob]

Here again, I wonder, did Baldwin pull a Weinstein hiring her for the armorer's job? Was he getting a little sompin sompin in return? How many of you have a photo of yourself like this one? If you got em show em!
Come on now. Livingston? Dr Evil? Spat? Celt? Deplorable? come on you know you do. Vietnam Era? Acer? Lets see your "Hire me and I will be your Monica" picture.

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Pretty sure @Darth does.

 

[Bob]