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Alec Baldwin Charged in “prop gun” shooting (Merged Threads)
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Bob
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Robin
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Alex!!!! That you?!?!?!?!?!?!
holdover
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meketrefe
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He manages de recoil pretty well.
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Bustedknees
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Now i want to see this Rust movie . Any chance brother Danial Baldwin could finish the **shoot ** for him ?
spat
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Catskillkid
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The man they call Jayne certainly knows how to handle a weapon.Be better if it was Adam.
Pretty sure *he* knows how to handle a gun
I'm also of the opinion that any of the Baldwin brothers is a better human being than Alec.
Arjuna
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spat
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True.
I believe Adam is a distant cousin not one of the brothers.
Explains a lot.
From his wikipedia entry.
kaliber
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kaliber
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law enforcement of movie sets would be a nightmare for Hollywood , actors and law enforcement. Im sure there is a lot of crimes that take place on movie sets that would crimp actors party habits and put LE in a bad way by not taking action on any observed criminal behavior.
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stokes
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Wasnt he one of the douchebags yelling about "defund the police"? Now he wants cops on the movie sets?
spat
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"Officer, could you check this cocaine for me to see if it's cut with anything dangerous ?"
repete
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Yeah, we all know that all cops are firearm experts! No insult meant to those few that actually do know there way around a gun.
Catskillkid
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I learned something interesting today related to this. My organization is filming some instructional/educational videos and today I was working with the videographer and her assistant. The assistant is a younger guy who besides doing small shoots like the one we're working on also does larger productions. In fact, he's working part-time on a movie that is being filmed in Andes, NY right now.
During one the breaks today we started chatting and he told me that this evening the movie he's working on is going to have a big shoot-out scene. I joked that I hope the set wasn't the like one on Rust. He laughed and said that ever since Rust that production and apparently every movie production in the US has been on safety overdrive.
He also said that apparently in New York they have a rule that says you can't use "real" firearms on a movie set. Apparently they have to be actual props. This means they have to be manufactured so that they cannot be chambered with real live ammunition. On his set all the guns will only accept special blank rounds made for these prop guns. He said that they look exactly like Glocks, Single Action Army revolvers, AKs, pretty much any gun you can think of, but they can't be loaded with real ammunition.
He said that one of his good friends is a movie armorer and that since Rust there's been a huge increase on on-set safety for anything firearm or weapon related. He also said that this friend of his has walked off sets before like they did on Rust because safety precautions were not followed. Apparently the lackadaisical use of real firearms on movie sets (again, at least in states where they're allowed) is more common than it's made out to be.
It was a really interesting conversation about his experience using "firearms" on movie sets.
During one the breaks today we started chatting and he told me that this evening the movie he's working on is going to have a big shoot-out scene. I joked that I hope the set wasn't the like one on Rust. He laughed and said that ever since Rust that production and apparently every movie production in the US has been on safety overdrive.
He also said that apparently in New York they have a rule that says you can't use "real" firearms on a movie set. Apparently they have to be actual props. This means they have to be manufactured so that they cannot be chambered with real live ammunition. On his set all the guns will only accept special blank rounds made for these prop guns. He said that they look exactly like Glocks, Single Action Army revolvers, AKs, pretty much any gun you can think of, but they can't be loaded with real ammunition.
He said that one of his good friends is a movie armorer and that since Rust there's been a huge increase on on-set safety for anything firearm or weapon related. He also said that this friend of his has walked off sets before like they did on Rust because safety precautions were not followed. Apparently the lackadaisical use of real firearms on movie sets (again, at least in states where they're allowed) is more common than it's made out to be.
It was a really interesting conversation about his experience using "firearms" on movie sets.
spat
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Don't really need a new firearm. They just need a new barrel with a custom bore/chamber. Basically have an integral blank fire adapter.
For some guns that would be a real PITA, but for most of what they use in movies it would be a quick swap.
gun_slinger_boy
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I don't understand why it's so difficult to just use ACTUAL blank only guns. My aunt found one of these in a consignment shop and had me take a look at it. Blank pistol Bruni mod New Police It came with blanks that were comparable in size to 32 ACP but smaller dimensions. This way actual 32 acp could never be chambered. I took it apart and cleaned it up and tested it. Worked perfectly firing the rounds and ejecting the casings. It was loud as hell too. If you google "Bruni blank gun" and go to images you will see they have plenty of modern blank guns that look just like the real thing. And they cost a fraction of their real counterparts. I don't get why these things are made so difficult.
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masterswimmer
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I'm still confused about this whole prop gun crap.
When I was in middle school and HS I ran on the track team. Before every race the starter would get the runners to the line and repeat the following, every single time:
RUNNERS, TAKE YOUR MARK.....
BANG
The gun used was a revolver starters pistol. A gun that shot blanks. NEVER, not once did anyone ever get shot by this prop, starters pistol, blank gun, whatever the hell you want to call it. And nobody felt unsafe. There was no need for an armorer or prop master or cop to oversee the handling of this gun.
WTH is wrong with people nowadays.
Sometimes the question gets asked, would you ever want to go back and be a teen again? My answer was always a resounding hell no. I've had to rethink my answer to that question. I want the day and times of my youth to prevail in society, but not necessarily be a teenager again.
/Rant
When I was in middle school and HS I ran on the track team. Before every race the starter would get the runners to the line and repeat the following, every single time:
RUNNERS, TAKE YOUR MARK.....
BANG
The gun used was a revolver starters pistol. A gun that shot blanks. NEVER, not once did anyone ever get shot by this prop, starters pistol, blank gun, whatever the hell you want to call it. And nobody felt unsafe. There was no need for an armorer or prop master or cop to oversee the handling of this gun.
WTH is wrong with people nowadays.
Sometimes the question gets asked, would you ever want to go back and be a teen again? My answer was always a resounding hell no. I've had to rethink my answer to that question. I want the day and times of my youth to prevail in society, but not necessarily be a teenager again.
/Rant
camper4lyfe
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The thing is, there's no need for the overreaction for Hollywood over this. This is the 3rd person to die on a set since The Crow. 3. How many movies have been made in that time? Following proper procedures makes the whole filming process safe. The deaths are a result of NOT following those procedures. Done. End of story. Baldwin (as the producer) is at fault for not ensuring those procedures were followed.
masterswimmer
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That sure sounds like the definition of negligent homicide. And yet no charges are levied.
Acer-m14
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3 dead from guns .. and how many stunt actors have died from >>>>.. they keep making movies with actors jumping and falling from roof tops ..
lots more ..
lots more ..
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Danyela D'Angelo - Competition Shooter
Just like Alec Baldwin I’ve worked on movie sets with firearms. Unlike him, I have had simple safety training. When Offensive Marketing Group created the amazing short film “the Gunslinger“ starring my Biggest Finest Revolver there were real guns on set. My Dad was in charge of wrangling every firearm on the set. We used blanks, dummy rounds, and live fire ammunition. When you watch the movie the differences should be obvious. The need for all three should also make perfect sense. For instance, when I pointed the revolver at the bad guy at the end (*spoiler alert) The camera angle was important. If we “gun people“ didn’t see that lead bullet inside of the cylinder we would be screaming “FAKE!“ luckily, my Dad was playing the bad guy and he was the one that safety checked the actual gun that I would point at him. (And trust me, it felt weird. ) Hollywood and the news media knuckleheads are going crazy about pulling actual guns out of every future film production. This is nonsense. Especially when it comes to realism, and how simple it is to be safe. I participate in national 3 Gun tournaments where there are 300+ shooters with pistols, rifles & shotguns EVERYWHERE . No one gets so much as a scratch. We follow the four basic safety rules. When General Motors films a car commercial you wouldn’t expect them to use a computer generated Cadillac. When Kahr Firearms Group uses their actual guns in productions, we fall in love with them! After all, the product is the gun. Even though 50,000+ Americans die in car accidents every year. Makes you think. #AlecBaldwin #gunsafety #singleaction #revolver #danyeladangelo #rust #rustmovie
Deplorable Me
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