Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[gun_slinger_boy]

Not sure how they'll get away with that if they're doing the other ammo sale paperwork that's been required for the last year

Not a chance. Remember the state holds their license and the state can revoke it. I’m sure that the state handles the pistol licensing for NYS and you need to have NYS approval to sell pistols, same with ammo. If they fail to do background checks they will no longer be able to sell guns and ammo in NYS.

There was a time when alcohol was outright banned yet...

 

[STS556]

We may be losing an FFL in lower Westchester because of this BS law. He has a retail store, doesn't sell guns or ammo but only does transfers so he is not worried about guns or ammo bought online taking away from his own inventory. A friend of mine ordered ammo and tried to get it by the 12th. Unfortunately it came in on the 13th. He went to pick it up and started the background process. After the paperwork and the required info on the FFL's part, he was delayed. Still delayed as of today. The FFL told him it is too much time to deal with all this crap and takes too much of his time away from his retail business and told my friend he probably wont do transfers while this law is in effect.

 

[repete]

We may be losing an FFL in lower Westchester because of this BS law. He has a retail store, doesn't sell guns or ammo but only does transfers so he is not worried about guns or ammo bought online taking away from his own inventory. A friend of mine ordered ammo and tried to get it by the 12th. Unfortunately it came in on the 13th. He went to pick it up and started the background process. After the paperwork and the required info on the FFL's part, he was delayed. Still delayed as of today. The FFL told him it is too much time to deal with all this crap and takes too much of his time away from his retail business and told my friend he probably wont do transfers while this law is in effect.

This is Hoochies goal all along! We all know this has nothing to do fighting crime, if she was serious about crime, she could've made it mandatory 5 years added to whatever sentence for anyone committing a violent felony while in possession of a firearm. That would've effected only crims.

 

[ManualF150]

Just like protecting us with this shit:

Governor Hochul Unveils Targeted Action Plan to Combat Car Thefts

Governor Hochul announced a series of targeted actions to combat the high number of car thefts, particularly of certain Kia and Hyundai model vehicles, in counties across New York State called the Comprehensive Auto-Theft Reduction Strategy, CARS.

www.governor.ny.gov

How about the manufacturers fix their shit in the first place!? Why does it always have to impact us for what big business fails to do?

 

[thegatman]

Two or three FFL based gun shops are closing their doors here in Rochester area.

 

[Keyzard]

Just like protecting us with this shit:

Governor Hochul Unveils Targeted Action Plan to Combat Car Thefts

Governor Hochul announced a series of targeted actions to combat the high number of car thefts, particularly of certain Kia and Hyundai model vehicles, in counties across New York State called the Comprehensive Auto-Theft Reduction Strategy, CARS.

www.governor.ny.gov

How about the manufacturers fix their shit in the first place!? Why does it always have to impact us for what big business fails to do?

I would argue that in a polite society there is no need for any manufacturer to have to worry about that. Good people know it is wrong to steal.

This is like when Buffalo and Cheektowaga started fining people for leaving their cars without remote start running in the morning to warm them up in the winter. They did that "cut down on car theft". So once again, you are punishing/blaming the victim?

 

[thisIslandEarth]

Two or three FFL based gun shops are closing their doors here in Rochester area.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?
This fucking state...

 

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[Vinson57]

Some geek boy with a plan for great things with this ammo check system, a cuck (lower than beta) level person who probably still lives with mom and a vegan is running the system. His subordinates are just like him. We could go there and fine a great collection of commies you don't want to now. On the Friday before deer opener in the southern tier, there will be a great outages and on friday night these fuckers will be laughing how they did it on purpose to save bambi in hopes of getting some pussy they never had. Get your ammo before them if you need some. These geeks work in secure areas and from this will fuck around.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

So is this background check all digital and no paper form?

 

[livingston]

Some geek boy with a plan for great things with this ammo check system, a cuck (lower than beta) level person who probably still lives with mom and a vegan is running the system. His subordinates are just like him. We could go there and fine a great collection of commies you don't want to now. On the Friday before deer opener in the southern tier, there will be a great outages and on friday night these fuckers will be laughing how they did it on purpose to save bambi in hopes of getting some pussy they never had. Get your ammo before them if you need some. These geeks work in secure areas and from this will fuck around.

Folks we knew for years that this day would come ... One should be stocked tall and deep by now... This is one time that buying on credit made sense .Anything to not become entangled with the system would be a big win.
I mentioned earlier in this thread I believe.... A CDL medical certificate was sent to Albany. A month before expiration on drivers Licence, 6 weeks passed . .. A notice was received from Albany about the loss of CDL privileges ...Had to call Albany and be on hold for an hour and a half . Talked to a person and 3 minutes later they found what was sent. for processing... Folks All they needed to do is enter the drivers license into the system ... What is that 5 seconds of typing....

I can see a possible 2 month wait to buy ammo if it is handled like this CDL situation. .. Another possibility ... One buys a gun and the system says a 2-3 week delay in the ammo background check ... (by design )

 

[Saltwater60]

Im

So is this background check all digital and no paper form?

Im pretty sure you’ll be meeting more than a few of us.

 

[ManualF150]

Folks we knew for years that this day would come ... One should be stocked tall and deep by now... This is one time that buying on credit made sense .Anything to not become entangled with the system would be a big win.
I mentioned earlier in this thread I believe.... A CDL medical certificate was sent to Albany. A month before expiration on drivers Licence, 6 weeks passed . .. A notice was received from Albany about the loss of CDL privileges ...Had to call Albany and be on hold for an hour and a half . Talked to a person and 3 minutes later they found what was sent. for processing... Folks All they needed to do is enter the drivers license into the system ... What is that 5 seconds of typing....

I can see a possible 2 month wait to buy ammo if it is handled like this CDL situation. .. Another possibility ... One buys a gun and the system says a 2-3 week delay in the ammo background check ... (by design )

I have a bus driver friend that had that happen to them 6 months ago. He got home to find the letter just after driving the bus around all day.

Luckily he works evenings, so he had all day to sort it out. Said it took him 3-4 hours of practically being shoved all over the DMV and on hold. Literally got it sorted out 2 hours before his shift started.

On another note, it's all about control, control, control... and more control.

 

[Rocpo]

Just like protecting us with this shit:

Governor Hochul Unveils Targeted Action Plan to Combat Car Thefts

Governor Hochul announced a series of targeted actions to combat the high number of car thefts, particularly of certain Kia and Hyundai model vehicles, in counties across New York State called the Comprehensive Auto-Theft Reduction Strategy, CARS.

www.governor.ny.gov

How about the manufacturers fix their shit in the first place!? Why does it always have to impact us for what big business fails to do?

Or... I dunno... maybe start putting people in jail instead of just an appearance ticket?

 

[Clancy]

I spoke with a friend who works at a LGS about how the ammunition checks went. They sold 6 guns Friday and Saturday. No issues at all with the checks with the NYSP. However, 1 guy had to wait 4 hours to buy .22 shells, 2 had to wait 24 hours to buy 6.5 Creedmore and .308 shells, and 2 are still waiting, since Friday. to be able to purchase ammunition after buying rifles.

 

[MothMan]

Well they also need to go back to the toddler years to see if someone lifted a loli-pop from the local market. That is automatic denial.

I don't think the purple tie crowd knows how to read microfiche.

 

[FP1201]

So is this background check all digital and no paper form?

all digital, the only form is the template sellers/dealers are making up to facilitate entering the information.

 

[Acer-m14]

Just like protecting us with this shit:

Governor Hochul Unveils Targeted Action Plan to Combat Car Thefts

Governor Hochul announced a series of targeted actions to combat the high number of car thefts, particularly of certain Kia and Hyundai model vehicles, in counties across New York State called the Comprehensive Auto-Theft Reduction Strategy, CARS.

www.governor.ny.gov

How about the manufacturers fix their shit in the first place!? Why does it always have to impact us for what big business fails to do?

I would argue that in a polite society there is no need for any manufacturer to have to worry about that. Good people know it is wrong to steal.

This is like when Buffalo and Cheektowaga started fining people for leaving their cars without remote start running in the morning to warm them up in the winter. They did that "cut down on car theft". So once again, you are punishing/blaming the victim?

if you steal shit you will get shot ..

if you break into a home you will get shot ..

that how it should be ..

even if the car or house has no door locks ..

 

[Grimscale]

I spoke with a friend who works at a LGS about how the ammunition checks went. They sold 6 guns Friday and Saturday. No issues at all with the checks with the NYSP. However, 1 guy had to wait 4 hours to buy .22 shells, 2 had to wait 24 hours to buy 6.5 Creedmore and .308 shells, and 2 are still waiting, since Friday. to be able to purchase ammunition after buying rifles.

I know a walmart employee who occasionally works in the sports dept.
The system was down for them all day on the 13th. Still don't know if it is up and running.

Another possibility ... One buys a gun and the system says a 2-3 week delay in the ammo background check ... (by design )

So I've warned already.
This is an "undocumented feature", not a bug. Aside from illegal databases, illegal fees, illegal jumping-through-hoops, this allows heil hochul to order her stasi to insert false delay and deny orders to slow people's exercising of their rights.

 

[CaliberPlus]

I believe the ones that staff this bgc are all civilian employees. I posted earlier about talking to a lady about the new crap and she told me she was a cililian reading from a cheat sheet. I think the guy I unloaded on the other day was a civilian. I don't think even a new trooper would have taken what I said without some sort of someback.

 

[livingston]

I know a walmart employee who occasionally works in the sports dept.
The system was down for them all day on the 13th. Still don't know if it is up and running.



So I've warned already.
This is an "undocumented feature", not a bug. Aside from illegal databases, illegal fees, illegal jumping-through-hoops, this allows heil hochul to order her stasi to insert false delay and deny orders to slow people's exercising of their rights.

For years someone has pushed a bill in Albany where a waiting period be enacted after one purchases a gun

Senate Bill S1235A​

Establishes a 10 day waiting period for the purchase of any firearm

Now they can just claim a backed up system and the inability to process in a timely manner .. No need for a law ...

 

[Vinson57]

I spoke with a friend who works at a LGS about how the ammunition checks went. They sold 6 guns Friday and Saturday. No issues at all with the checks with the NYSP. However, 1 guy had to wait 4 hours to buy .22 shells, 2 had to wait 24 hours to buy 6.5 Creedmore and .308 shells, and 2 are still waiting, since Friday. to be able to purchase ammunition after buying rifles.

The ammo wait shows a glitch and the little fat geek boy is now sweating bullets as his annual raise will be lost. But wait, its not a performance metric needed by the commies as delaying is good.

I'm not waiting more than 15 minutes and will just leave.

 

[GTN]

I am so torn about buying ammo right now in New York. I just bought a good 22 rifle and I need some good ammo to feed it. Nearest border is 90 minutes with no major towns or gun shops around in PA. Sportsman’s warehouse has what I want.
Although it would be interesting to see if I get denied, considering I just bought a rifle three weeks ago

 

[Clancy]

The ammo wait shows a glitch and the little fat geek boy is now sweating bullets as his annual raise will be lost. But wait, its not a performance metric needed by the commies as delaying is good.

I'm not waiting more than 15 minutes and will just leave.

Who is "the little fat geek boy"? I have no idea what you are talking about here.

 

[thughes]

I am so torn about buying ammo right now in New York. I just bought a good 22 rifle and I need some good ammo to feed it. Nearest border is 90 minutes with no major towns or gun shops around in PA. Sportsman’s warehouse has what I want.
Although it would be interesting to see if I get denied, considering I just bought a rifle three weeks ago

What do you need, I'll be back up in a month.

 

[Willyone]

I'm curious about the info now required to buy ammo. Is there a website showing a PDF or copy of the form showing the requested/required info to buy ammo?

Inquiring minds......

 

[FrankenCub]

What do you need, I'll be back up in a month.

This right here! NYGF Underground is a safer faster bet.

 

[ManualF150]

Who is "the little fat geek boy"? I have no idea what you are talking about here.

I'm assuming they mean the little fat geek boy who designed the NYSNICs system to fail while he gets his fat check from us taxpayers.

 

[Acer-m14]

The New York State Firearms Association is suing Kathy Hochul in Federal Court over her blatantly unconstitutional ammo registration law.
In this video, NYSFA's Aaron Dorr interviews lead plaintiff (and state Senator) George Borrello.
Watch the video below for the latest on our lawsuit and then help us fight by making a donation!