Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[Vinson57]

I'm very much against it.

However, the state already knows what pistols and pistol calibers we have. All they are learning is how much I shoot 9mm or .22 with my pistols.

I can see the state using the database something like this - Oh I see here he has increased his monthly shooting from 200rd to 500rds and his online profile is becoming more extreme, add a few points to his threat index ranking and put him in the high risk algorithm tracker.

I "might" buy some ammo for pistols that I own that the state already knows about.

I absolutely AM NOT buying ammo or calibers the state doesn't know about.

Then they are feeding all the data to the feds and other states and gun control organizations but its easily done electronically so always deniable.

I like the analysis and would be doing it if I was data processing geek, how many people buying 9mm who don't have a pistol permit also also intercity. This will cause them to ban this. All negative factors will cause new restrictions. The geeks who made the system have to now make new performance objectives for next years raise and promotions so they are thinking.

 

[GTN]

I went there two days every Jan to photograph the Mentor Youth Hockey league from 1995-2005.
Now I wish I still had that job for ammo runs

 

[Acer-m14]

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Fuggum.

why do kids have to have a parent there with them

but they can fly the friendly skys alone with strangers ..

 

[Deplorable Me]

why do kids have to have a parent there with them

but they can fly the friendly skys alone with strangers ..

Epstein Airlines?

 

[Bustedknees]

Will there be any resentment towards the 2nd circus court tomorrow?

 

[Grimscale]

Will there be any resentment towards the 2nd circus court tomorrow?

Probably.
I seriously doubt there will be any relief for American Citizens from these egregious and oppressive "laws" Hitler's wet dream pushed on us.

 

[CaliberPlus]

I suspect there is legislation already written to circumvent anything SCOTUS might do, just waiting to be introduced.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I suspect there is legislation already written to circumvent anything SCOTUS might do, just waiting to be introduced.

And you can bet it will be twice as bad. Can't do background checks on ammo anymore? Fine, then an ammo permit will be required for purchase of ammo. The fee will be $200 and will require a background check, yearly recertification, and may take up to 6 months to receive. "This is a common sense approach to stopping criminals from buying ammo that is Constitutional" -Kathy Whorechul

 

[Willyone]

I suspect there is legislation already written to circumvent anything SCOTUS might do, just waiting to be introduced.

Exactly. This is like a game of chess. Each side anticipates and prepares for the other sides move. Eventually there's a checkmate, then the game starts all over again.

 

[CaliberPlus]

Yup, had a guy buy a gun, bg went thru just fine. Wanted ammo, yeah no. He is still waiting. The stories are definitely true. I have more ammo waiting with name and phone number. The paperwork is a PIA! Trying to remember to call when it goes thru is gonna drive me crazy.
This is so wrong.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yup, had a guy buy a gun, bg went thru just fine. Wanted ammo, yeah no. He is still waiting. The stories are definitely true. I have more ammo waiting with name and phone number. The paperwork is a PIA! Trying to remember to call when it goes thru is gonna drive me crazy.
This is so wrong.

Now this is absurd.

 

[Acer-m14]

what is the actual text of the law ..

to buy ammo you need a background check ..

buy gun , free ammo included

 

[Bustedknees]

What time is Thomas hearing the case today?
Any live link??

 

[livingston]

What time is Thomas hearing the case today?
Any live link??

There is nothing to see ,,, a decision will be made where to send this case from the sounds of it. (after listening to the you tube on the previous page )

 

[spat]

And you can bet it will be twice as bad. Can't do background checks on ammo anymore? Fine, then an ammo permit will be required for purchase of ammo. The fee will be $200 and will require a background check, yearly recertification, and may take up to 6 months to receive. "This is a common sense approach to stopping criminals from buying ammo that is Constitutional" -Kathy Whorechul

It will take 6 months to receive, and only be valid for 6 months. If you're lucky you'll have 3 days to buy ammo before it expires. If not, it'll be expired before you get it.

Miss your chance ? Well, just apply again, and wait another 6 months.

 

[Vinson57]

Now this is absurd.

Because the state has determined much more things they thing are disqualifying from all the data sources they have. They are keeping this secret and its not the same as a NICS check.

The courts need to ask about this and have those IT weenies answer up on their system and filter out the typical nonsense they speak in. Techno babble wrapped in Orwellian newspeak.

 

[SonOfSun]

I'd encourage everyone not to buy ammo in NY. They are logging and collecting information in databases.

Rambam's third law: "Any information that can be used WILL be misused".

Do not under any circumstances give them this info. In the end they WILL use it against you.

 

[REF]

Yup, had a guy buy a gun, bg went thru just fine. Wanted ammo, yeah no. He is still waiting. The stories are definitely true. I have more ammo waiting with name and phone number. The paperwork is a PIA! Trying to remember to call when it goes thru is gonna drive me crazy.
This is so wrong.

Bought a new one I just HAD to have Tuesday. I have a UPIN. Normally, before the clerk lets go of the send button it immediately comes back Proceed. Not now. Delayed for about 16 fucking hours. My “go to” gun store is 35 minutes away and I had to make 2 trips because of these fuckwads. Clerk told me everyone who bought a semiautomatic that day went to delay. Bolt guns went right through. Now if the purple tie gang is simply just a middle man collecting revenue, for gun purchases anyways, and assuming the NICS check went as they usually do, what the fuck was taking 16 hours ? Do they just not process them immediately because they can’t keep up and just put them in delay until they actually submit it to NICS , or does it take them that long to put me in their database?!?! Last one I’ll probably purchase in NY and definitely not buying ammo. Hell no. I have friends coming from Minnesota in 2 weeks

 

[livingston]

I'd encourage everyone not to buy ammo in NY. They are logging and collecting information in databases.

Rambam's third law: "Any information that can be used WILL be misused".

Do not under any circumstances give them this info. In the end they WILL use it against you.

We all knew this day was coming folks. If one is a serious shooter actions should have been taken accordingly .... Even if meant going into debt . I myself have bought some guns Years past ... as I believe they will put the hammer down on them also... Perhaps I should have passed on that Idea and purchased more ammo. ????...... Who knows Ask me in a few years .... I foresee in the future where purchasing out of state (ammo ) could have grave consequences for everyone ... All they do is wave that wand ( pen ) and a new law is born.

 

[Rocpo]

Ortt, gun shop owners call for an end to firearm background checks

Local gun shop owners shared their thoughts about the firearm and ammunition background check requirements.

www.wgrz.com

Hey look! A "republican" woke up!

 

[Beerman]

Hey look! A "republican" woke up!

…rolled over, and went back to sleep.

 

[livingston]

I was in Runnings . Talked to the clerk. He said that folks with common names were most likely to get denied for ammo. Another weird thing is people buying a gun and Ammo .. They don't pass the NICS check to buy a gun but pass the ammo background check. ..

 

[ManualF150]

I was in Runnings . Talked to the clerk. He said that folks with common names were most likely to get denied for ammo. Another weird thing is people buying a gun and Ammo .. They don't pass the NICS check to buy a gun but pass the ammo background check. ..

There should be lawsuits over this very statement. The system has set itself up for legal failure.

Just give it time.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

I already had a customer tell me that he purchased a rifle and passed and then got denied for the ammo and he has a NY pistol permit. These people are grade A clowns.

 

[Saltwater60]

I was in Runnings . Talked to the clerk. He said that folks with common names were most likely to get denied for ammo. Another weird thing is people buying a gun and Ammo .. They don't pass the NICS check to buy a gun but pass the ammo background check. ..

Funny you have to proved your SS# so a common name shouldn’t be an issue.

 

[Saltwater60]

I already had a customer tell me that he purchased a rifle and passed and then got denied for the ammo and he has a NY pistol permit. These people are grade A clowns.

Clowns or it’s all in purpose. They wanted to pass the law where you have a waiting period for a gun so why not delay the ammo purchase when you buy a gun the same day? Ban it’s a waiting period without the law.

 

[Vinson57]

I already had a customer tell me that he purchased a rifle and passed and then got denied for the ammo and he has a NY pistol permit. These people are grade A clowns.

Chief of that background check system division office place thinks he is getting a raise and a promotion for all his fine work. People will get their denial letters soon as they take 30-60 days and then we can get some lawyers into the mix.

I'm not going hunting this year but will pretend I am using fudd methods and go buy ammo on the Friday before southern tier opener to see how things look.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[MothMan]

Ortt, gun shop owners call for an end to firearm background checks

Local gun shop owners shared their thoughts about the firearm and ammunition background check requirements.

www.wgrz.com

Hey look! A "republican" woke up!

This right here is fuckin funny! From the article.

"New York State Police have dedicated resources to those who say they have experienced an infringement against their Second Amendment rights."

 

[Steal2B]

About those new gun regs? 'Nobody is happy'

Oct. 10—LOCKPORT — Business at Johnson's Country Store has been slow the past few weeks and owner Carly Short has pinpointed the cause: the state's newest gun-control regulations going into effect. As of mid-September, background checks are now required for the purchase of ammunition, and the...

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