Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Does this site now have ads? I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if I'm getting them from spyware on my phone itself.
Are We Getting Ads?
- Thread starter Marine Cpl
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We have to implement them to offset some costs. I can guarantee that they won't get crazy. We may add another at the top for sponsors. We have to figure it out as we go though.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No problem. Like I said, "I was just wondering."
They were displaying the exact head unit I was looking into buying for my Jeep and I found it strange.
I'll click on some for "The Cause" if that helps.
They were displaying the exact head unit I was looking into buying for my Jeep and I found it strange.
I'll click on some for "The Cause" if that helps.
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I've always found them a bit creepy like that!
I (or one of the other admins) will make a post about it tomorrow when I get to a computer. We didn't make this decision on a whim. We are in the site for multiple hundreds of dollars. I think the forum software alone was a few hundred. (@NYGuns is in it for the most) Every add on we buy (trader rating, themes, etc.) cost us something. We love you guys, but we can't keep dumping money into the site forever. I can assure you that we aren't here to make money off the users. In fact, if we ever had a positive revenue, I would like to see it go to purchasing some products and them giving them away.
We appreciate the understanding. I'm not sure if we are allowed to say, "Everyone, click on the links!" Or if that is against the ad provider TOS. @NYGuns probably knows. Either way, if you see an ad that interests you, feel free to click on it.
Edit: Well,that ended up being pretty long. I guess that is the official response.
Uzi
.308 Win
Who has aids?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
ManrisFrack
.223 Rem
Thank you!!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
@NirvanaFan. I know you do not want to get money from your members, but I think most of us would contribute a measly 5 bucks each to help offset costs that come up.
We live here too.
We live here too.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
with the proper meds you can live a long, satisfying life with your condition
Cleck
.308 Win
I've paid for forum memberships before. I'd rather do that and have it go towards the site maintenance, and then surplus go towards site giveaways and shit like that. No reason why you should have to front this, we can be contributing members in more than one way. As long as the money goes towards the site (gift cards, Bullet Guy uppers, knives, lights, etc) after the additions are paid for, and not for anyone's personal profit. The shortcomings of the old site can make this new site better. If you're running yourselves broke because the forum is free, then you'll be in the same boat eventually. Not saying you'll sell it for the profit, but you may understand why it was done.
Maybe put it to a vote, see what "the people" say.
Maybe put it to a vote, see what "the people" say.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
5 to 10 bucks every year or 2 when needed on a voluntary basis is not a lot to ask in my opinion.
We talked about it a bit, but I'll just speak for myself here.
I'd rather not open it up for donations. I'm sure that we'd get plenty of them though, and probably enough to sustain the site. I know the VAST majority would be perfectly fine with getting nothing out of their donation. I don't know if anybody wouldn't be cool with getting nothing (besides a place to hang out). However, it could open a can of worms.
I definitely don't want people to have to pay to get certain perks (more Private Message space, pics in signature, etc.).
I don't want people to expect to be treated differently if they paid.
I don't want any pressure at all to pay.
I don't want new people to come in and see us asking for money. Seeing ads is totally normal on a forum.
We've talked about other things (like t-shirts, stickers, etc). Maybe we'll actually get around to it. I could see us making a "yearly" t-shirt for a user appreciation week/month. We could offer limited edition swag. I don't know. I'm totally spitballing here and it's something that the admin team has to talk about.
I have no idea if the one bottom ad will be enough to offset costs. I'd assume that we'll get at least a couple thousand impressions per day, but the pay rate on impressions isn't the best. Sites get paid better on clicks than impressions. The admin team has to sit down and hash out exactly how much we've all put into it, how much the site costs to run per month, how much we get from the ads on the bottom of the page, etc. I'm sure it will be a while before we figure anything out.
I'd rather not open it up for donations. I'm sure that we'd get plenty of them though, and probably enough to sustain the site. I know the VAST majority would be perfectly fine with getting nothing out of their donation. I don't know if anybody wouldn't be cool with getting nothing (besides a place to hang out). However, it could open a can of worms.
I definitely don't want people to have to pay to get certain perks (more Private Message space, pics in signature, etc.).
I don't want people to expect to be treated differently if they paid.
I don't want any pressure at all to pay.
I don't want new people to come in and see us asking for money. Seeing ads is totally normal on a forum.
We've talked about other things (like t-shirts, stickers, etc). Maybe we'll actually get around to it. I could see us making a "yearly" t-shirt for a user appreciation week/month. We could offer limited edition swag. I don't know. I'm totally spitballing here and it's something that the admin team has to talk about.
I have no idea if the one bottom ad will be enough to offset costs. I'd assume that we'll get at least a couple thousand impressions per day, but the pay rate on impressions isn't the best. Sites get paid better on clicks than impressions. The admin team has to sit down and hash out exactly how much we've all put into it, how much the site costs to run per month, how much we get from the ads on the bottom of the page, etc. I'm sure it will be a while before we figure anything out.
I appreciate everyone's support and understanding with this. As mentioned, we do not want to make money off this, we just want a place to hang out!
Please also know that the future of NYGF is cemented and we are not going anywhere. As most of you know we are using my server which I will have "forever", so regardless of if we have ads, accept donations, etc., we will still be here. The ad is there for now to help offset what we have put into the site so far and the monthly / yearly cost. Anything extra will be put right back into the site - me personally, I like to add site features that will help the members, such as an FFL map, events calendar, etc. Things that cost a few bucks to get going but will overall improve the site and our experience on the site.
Please also know that the future of NYGF is cemented and we are not going anywhere. As most of you know we are using my server which I will have "forever", so regardless of if we have ads, accept donations, etc., we will still be here. The ad is there for now to help offset what we have put into the site so far and the monthly / yearly cost. Anything extra will be put right back into the site - me personally, I like to add site features that will help the members, such as an FFL map, events calendar, etc. Things that cost a few bucks to get going but will overall improve the site and our experience on the site.
a few ads are hardly even noticed anymore in a day of constant bombardment of stuff, if thats what it takes to "keep the lights on" then have at it and thank you for all the work so far
"Please also know that the future of NYGF is cemented and we are not going anywhere. As most of you know we are using my server which I will have "forever", so regardless of if we have ads, accept donations, etc., we will still be here."
he bought the server used off ebay, Hillary was having an auction to recoup some of her money lost on the election!!!!
"Please also know that the future of NYGF is cemented and we are not going anywhere. As most of you know we are using my server which I will have "forever", so regardless of if we have ads, accept donations, etc., we will still be here."
he bought the server used off ebay, Hillary was having an auction to recoup some of her money lost on the election!!!!
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Why do you think I bought it? I'm still sifting through all those e-mails
Yup I'd rather kick in some bucks than have ads, but it is what is. They are not obtrusive here, unlike on some other sites.
If you guys are using Chrome or FireFox you can install the "AdBlock" extension, that will block all ads on all sites.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
I wouldn't mind Slickguns as a vendor. I frequently took advantage of the sales that site found and posted through their threads on the other site.
Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
Im all for throwing a few bucks your way. You let me be myself. Not many forums do that
Cleck
.308 Win
Also, there's ways to ask for money w/ out it being forced. No additional badges for donating members, no special privileges, nothing. Make it a simple donation button with the knowledge being that if you donate money, thank you. It'll help the site, but we're not gonna mention you or treat you differently. Even if it is on your server, this site was built for us. If you can't handle donating money w/out a ticker tape parade in your honor, don't donate. We don't want it to get to a point where you guys are already spending more and more because we want more and more. I like features and options and I don't like being held back. We don't want resentment either (not that I'm saying you will) for you guys having paid out what you already did. Even if it's annoying that you had to split hundreds of dollars to float this shit, we don't want to be annoying.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Im indifferent. ads wont bother me as long as it dosen't get out of control, the day it starts looking like a click bait site Im out. On the other had subscription based would be fine too. whatever works
SigLady
.357 mag
AND we'd have the added benefit of keeping the trolls out... just my
. I'd be fine with a membership fee. Plus, I hate ads (just because they're annoying, but I get why you put them up... )As far as "pay to play" for people who donate- yuck. This is a community, right? We should support it (or at least, those who are able.)
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Do you get paid by the click? I'll click some ads if it helps.
capitalcrew
.44 mag
Block cookies to avoid remarketing ads pinpointing that exact thing you were just looking at
Don't click on them too much to try to do the forum a favor either, google will recognize click fraud.
The only problem I've found with the ad is that it doesn't resize for mobile and messes up the mobile view. Otherwise it is no problem and a great way to help offset costs
Don't click on them too much to try to do the forum a favor either, google will recognize click fraud.
The only problem I've found with the ad is that it doesn't resize for mobile and messes up the mobile view. Otherwise it is no problem and a great way to help offset costs
I believe NYGuns was looking at that last night. It should get fixed soon.
The most we'll be putting up is one banner ad at the top (which I'd like to limit to firearm specific sponsors of the forum), and the one that is already there at the bottom. I'll pay the difference in hosting myself if I have to. I surely don't want to turn this into one giant ad space.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Don't click them unless you are truly clicking them because you are interested in whatever is on the ad. Too many clicks by the same person (especially in a row) would raise some flags.
We plan on pursuing vendors as well, perhaps down the road we can lose the ads altogether and just have vendors
We plan on pursuing vendors as well, perhaps down the road we can lose the ads altogether and just have vendors
I'm down with that, give us a button. Keep the donaters on the downlow if you wish. Put up a funding goal for the month and a progress tracker.