nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Apples to Oranges!
Banning firearms in an apartment complex
- Thread starter Nanook145
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Apples to Oranges!
Not at all. Both immoral thugs.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
And you didn't have to sign and live there!
Irrelavant, what they are doing is wrong.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Maybe immoral but you sign the contract!
Contract is immoral, therfore void as far as I'm concerned.
spat
.950 JDJ
How exactly is comparing one constitutionally protected right to another apples to oranges ?
What exactly is different about the guarantee that you may have guests of whatever race you want, and the guarantee tha you may keep arms ?
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Your Constitutional right to Arms is only protected from the Government not a property owner or in this case a HOA! That you signed a contract with!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
They can try. But they cannot force you to not have guns. What are they going to do? Inspect your house? Pat you down for a ccw before you come home? You keep ignoring that point and in another 3 posts you'll say again that they can. They can't do squat without searching your home.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And you don't have to abide!
spat
.950 JDJ
And how was your right to have black guests protected ?
Show me where there is a difference in the constitution.
Why don't we just agree that whats legal and whats right are often two different things.
I sum up with an ardent wish that the entire HOA get anal cancer.
I sum up with an ardent wish that the entire HOA get anal cancer.
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Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
There is case law that upholds ridiculous HOA regulations and meddling. On the other hand, there are also judgements which show these gun free zone regulations create significant liability and additional responsibilities for businesses, associations, and officers to guarantee the protection of residents against crime. They in fact become liable if someone is then hurt by a criminal on the premises. If someone were victimized by a robber, rapist or murderer in their own home or on community property, the court argument would go, “you expressly prohibited my client from possessing the means to protect themself, and yet you took no action to protect them.” This HOA recieved poor legal advice and I would not want to be the civil defendant (board association members) testifying on that witness stand.
If an HOA decides to prohibit the possession of firearms in any way, they must seriously consider providing the substantial additional burden and cost of an armed guard service, gates, and other security measures and also pray they are 100% effective.
If an HOA decides to prohibit the possession of firearms in any way, they must seriously consider providing the substantial additional burden and cost of an armed guard service, gates, and other security measures and also pray they are 100% effective.
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If it's a coop and not a condo, the laws are quite interesting and the "owners" don't fully own the property.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Yeah, but HOA's are really no better even if you don't live in condo. People get on power trips and think all of a sudden they're the law of the land. Normally old people. Very, very old people with nothing better to do.
I’m the president of my HOA. 
We’re extremely laid back though. Our only big deal is keeping the siding the same color.
We’re extremely laid back though. Our only big deal is keeping the siding the same color.
The same color on one house? Or all houses the same color?I’m the president of my HOA.
We’re extremely laid back though. Our only big deal is keeping the siding the same color.
Townhouses, so all the same.
Understandable.
It is a dream of mine to one day have my own house on my own property out by itself somewhere. My metric would be that it has to be secluded enough that I could piss off the front porch at any given hour of the day and not raise a ruckus.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I’m stuck in an HOA. The issue I have with them is that they won’t allow snakes. They’ll allow barking dogs, noisy birds, and don’t seem to mind feral cats everywhere. Yet, an animal in my home that makes no noise, has not even the 10th of the maintenance of a house cat, and cannot kill or is interested in anything other than mice... is somehow a problem. My cat bites me daily. You know how many times my snakes have bitten me? Zero.
Their justification is that the snake could get into the walls and cause problems. Apparently idiot owners have neglected their snakes and the snake has gotten loose. I don’t see why they don’t just make people photograph their animals and charge them if it gets into the wall.
Either way, those tyrants can fuck off. I’ve had my snakes before the rule, so they grandfathered me in. They should be spending their time cracking down on the people feeding the feral cats, which is why we have a feral cat problem.
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libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I've been looking at houses in Texas when I go down and visit. Some are far enough outside Austin city limits that you're allowed to shoot in your backyard, assuming your neighbors know what the noise is about and whatnot.
Ya, I also want to be able to shoot in my back yard. In fact I'd like to be able to setup berms out to 400 yards.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I think there are still some rules such as you can't be within so many feet of a highway and whatnot, but if you get some land that's not facing that way I think you're good. Might want to check with the local and state police though before you start firing off rounds on your ranch land though.
The local LEO down there is incredibly chill. I was looking over AKs while I was down there, and the LEO guys were also looking over firearms in the same shop. Totally chill and everything.
Was at a gun show down in New Baunfels as well -- local PD were handling the entrances. People walking into the show basically with AR-15s just strapped to their backs. I believe they had to be checked in though at the door, as the show didn't allow loaded rifles into the show itself and could be reclaimed on the way out. Gotta love open carry though.
I know New Braunfels! Well I'd drive past there on I 35 on my way to Ft Sam Houston in San Antonio. Nice area.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Don't go to the snake zoo there. They neglect their animals. I saw a snake just dead in the cage, and two king snakes housed together. Snakes are not social animals. Saw them biting each other.
Otherwise it seems like a decent place. Went there with a friend who was looking for grips for his 1979 colt python. But the original grips for it are like $300ish dollars (the last part he needs) so he was looking to see if he could find a deal on them for less.
He's got a blue one, like this:
Was Schiltterbahn north or south of there? I can't remember. That was a helluva fun place to go!Don't go to the snake zoo there. They neglect their animals. I saw a snake just dead in the cage, and two king snakes housed together. Snakes are not social animals. Saw them biting each other.
Otherwise it seems like a decent place. Went there with a friend who was looking for grips for his 1979 colt python. But the original grips for it are like $300ish dollars (the last part he needs) so he was looking to see if he could find a deal on them for less.
He's got a blue one, like this:
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
No idea. Never went there. I'm always there when it's "cold" to them, which is around 50-60 degrees. I'm outside in basically shorts an a T-Shirt and everyone is in winter jackets. Not sure it's open then.
I'm a polar bear and all but, frankly, I'd still not want to visit a waterpark when its 60 out.
Back in my Army days my buddies and I would round up some gals and go down there for the weekend.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
That's a good metric to go by.
I've been known to pee my initials in the snow next to the front porch steps just before my buds come over.
Boy does that piss the wife off! LOL
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Texas is not that straight forward. Localities can have separate rules from the state (within state guidelines) and regulations vary by acreage (greater than 10 or greater than 1000), vary by firearm being discharged, with different minimum distances (dwelling, property line, park, hospital, state parks, preserves, housing development, schools, certain creeks / lakes) and the list goes on. It is expected the bullet/projectile does not leave your property.
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