Bernie wants to cancel 1.6 trillion dollar student debt
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masterswimmer
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Like I've said countless times about Occasional-Kotex, keep talking Bernie! The humor continually intensifies.
Why don't people realize that government subsidies cause prices to skyrocket?
Before health insurance medical fees were reasonable, before government Grant's and scholarships College fees were a tiny fraction 9f what they are now. As soon as government funding gets involved, every unscrupulous sline ball comes out of the woodwork to feast on the pork. And most politicians don't give a fuck because they got kickbacks to collect, further bloating costs. If Berine Sanders had been president we'd all be on the streets by now.
Fucking communists. Communism doesn't work, never has worked, never will. Every where communism has been tried its failed.
Don't talk to me about China, the purest form of communism the world has yet seen was under mao zedong and 10s of millions starved to death as a result. Total death toll under mao was what? Couple hundred million? How many would sanders kill? Fucking China has "special economic zones" now. That's double speak for "areas where we do capitalism" and those areas support the whole damn country's economy.
Fucking commies, your policies are ones of failure, of cruelty and and of the most atrocious form of foolishness. Communism is mass murder and that is why the world is ethically justified in killing communists whenever and wherever they pop up. It is unethical to not kill communists.
Before health insurance medical fees were reasonable, before government Grant's and scholarships College fees were a tiny fraction 9f what they are now. As soon as government funding gets involved, every unscrupulous sline ball comes out of the woodwork to feast on the pork. And most politicians don't give a fuck because they got kickbacks to collect, further bloating costs. If Berine Sanders had been president we'd all be on the streets by now.
Fucking communists. Communism doesn't work, never has worked, never will. Every where communism has been tried its failed.
Don't talk to me about China, the purest form of communism the world has yet seen was under mao zedong and 10s of millions starved to death as a result. Total death toll under mao was what? Couple hundred million? How many would sanders kill? Fucking China has "special economic zones" now. That's double speak for "areas where we do capitalism" and those areas support the whole damn country's economy.
Fucking commies, your policies are ones of failure, of cruelty and and of the most atrocious form of foolishness. Communism is mass murder and that is why the world is ethically justified in killing communists whenever and wherever they pop up. It is unethical to not kill communists.
Cavalry
.308 Win
Here's a concept. Pick a degree that is actually useful and a career path will pay off your calculated education debt.
Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
He thinks he's taxing the rich. I would be caught up in the wall st tax one way or another. I trade stocks, my brother is my broker. We are regular joes.
FUBS.
This country is going to Helen's Hand Basket.
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FUBS.
This country is going to Helen's Hand Basket.
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Who 'bout this: of all the starving dumbass with "gender studies" ect. degrees, we grind up half of them and feed them to the remaining half. Seems fair to me.
Remember, communism is murder, deadly force is justifiable against attempted murder.
At this point I say go for it. The sooner things collapse and "the big sort" starts the better.
Our economy deserves to collapse when we throw TRILLIONS of dollars around that we don't have to whore out our wealth just to buy votes. It's disgusting on so many levels.
Time to "Go Galt" and just watch it burn.
At this point it's inevitable.
(Throwing in a shameless plug for Ayn Rands "atlas shrugged" if you haven't read it you should)
Our economy deserves to collapse when we throw TRILLIONS of dollars around that we don't have to whore out our wealth just to buy votes. It's disgusting on so many levels.
Time to "Go Galt" and just watch it burn.
At this point it's inevitable.
(Throwing in a shameless plug for Ayn Rands "atlas shrugged" if you haven't read it you should)
oc shooter
.223 Rem
Kinda like Bernie he's good for a laugh now and then the scary part is that some think he is presidential material
More than some. There are millions of idiots in our country who want to vote for him.
If you think he's the best bet then those are the true irredeemables.
Then I want "Student Loan Reparations For Those Who Paid Them Back"...like, forever ago.
The principal (who knows?) compounded annually at 50%, plus a weekly "vig" of $200 payable in small used bills.
The principal and accruing interest to be deposited in an off-shore bank of my choosing. The deposits will be in gold bullion, ammo, bang-sticks, and anything I approve of, except paper fiat money. The latter is unacceptable because it will decrease in value so quickly it will be worth less than TP at a dollar store. I could wipe my ass with it and save $$$.
The principal (who knows?) compounded annually at 50%, plus a weekly "vig" of $200 payable in small used bills.
The principal and accruing interest to be deposited in an off-shore bank of my choosing. The deposits will be in gold bullion, ammo, bang-sticks, and anything I approve of, except paper fiat money. The latter is unacceptable because it will decrease in value so quickly it will be worth less than TP at a dollar store. I could wipe my ass with it and save $$$.
Bigfoot
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It used to be the politicians would try to earn the peoples votes.
Now, namely the Democrats, just try to buy the peoples votes. Using other peoples money.
Now, namely the Democrats, just try to buy the peoples votes. Using other peoples money.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
HOPEFULLY there's millions that want Bernie. With approximately 120 million votes cast in the '16 presidential election, a couple or few million wouldn't even get him past the primaries. However, it might disenfranchise those socialists enough that they don't vote at all, and those lost votes would most likely be for the left.
I say go Bernie go!! Keep flapping your gums!
repete
.338 Win Mag
I don't like this idea but have to admit that it has merit!
This is all very simple , if you more of something subsidize it, if you want less of it tax it.
BTW, big Atlas Shrugged fan here.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
How many subsidized public housing projects are people stepping on each other to get into? If you don't work for it you don't fucking care. Every time I spend money I think of how much I had to do to get it to spend it.
Steal2B
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Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Two days before the first Democratic presidential debates, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday will unveil legislation canceling all $1.6 trillion of student debt held by about 45 million Americans......
Fine! Then I, as well as everyone else who ever dutifully paid their student debts, will have standing to sue for repayment of our debts. I've been paying my student debts for over 20 years. I want my money back (and...it IS my money since I'm one of the damn fools that's paying a ridiculous amount of taxes for other people's "entitlements").
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Lately college debt seems more like a Ponzi scheme. Bunch of stupid millenials being conned by "greedy" socialist who can't make it in the real world so they invented student debt to fund themselves.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Possibly.
I did not attend college to "find myself." I went to learn the requisite skills to advance to the next level of my academic career in order to proceed to my chosen career path.
I cannot recall hanging out with anyone in my college social circles that did not know what they expected to get out of college. Most of them were science and technology majors, so they expected to get into industry or research. Even those who were in "liberal arts" (like English or philosophy) expected to get into teaching. Everyone had a goal. Nobody that I personally knew was in college just to be in college.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I have a couple of friends/co-workers with liberal arts degrees, their strength is their great writing skills which require accuracy and getting to the point. The failures I know with liberal arts degrees are the mega bullshit artist who can't make a logical point or decision quickly, or just plain get to the point. They wander aimlessly in their dripping brains.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
People forget, the first thing that OBummer did was nationalize all student debt. That means .GOV OWNS all student debt. Now why would proponents of big government be trying to pawn that debt off completely to taxpayers with NO financial responsibility by those who incurred it?
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
if he wants to cancel school debt .. then its free gas and fuel for all us workers .. not just for cars n trucks .. home too .. LOL ..
oh i paid off my student loan .. took many phone calls .. how much to pay it off .. will have check .. WTF .. got mom on it .. she does not put up with anything ..
.. had to get one to rebuild the car motor in December on break so i could get back to school ..
zero oil pressure at idle at stop lights .. any guesses guys ?? 72 duster 318 ..
do i get a fkin refund now .. Reparations is the thing ..
oh i paid off my student loan .. took many phone calls .. how much to pay it off .. will have check .. WTF .. got mom on it .. she does not put up with anything ..
.. had to get one to rebuild the car motor in December on break so i could get back to school ..
zero oil pressure at idle at stop lights .. any guesses guys ?? 72 duster 318 ..
do i get a fkin refund now .. Reparations is the thing ..
Blimey
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This is an abominable idea. In part easy access to money is responsible for tuition where it is. Who is going to pay for this? 6 months in it's gone--half the federal budget for the year? This guy would never, ever get this to pass even if he were elected. It's thoroughly untenable.
I'm very opinionated on this stuff. Some things we need to address with student loans in general:
- greatly limit the amount of bullshit degrees people get; sociology, feminist dance theory, etc. If this is the only kind of degree you can get, think long and hard about whether you want/need a degree at all
- Cut it out with the private schools. Parents need to start telling their kids no far more often. Your child does not need to spend $40k/year on a degree from a private school. Stop encouraging this, and tell them no.
- further to point 1 the lending program should be rejiggered to make access to funds much harder for bullshit degrees with no ROI. If you need $100k for a masters in social work...sorry, loan denied.
I'm very opinionated on this stuff. Some things we need to address with student loans in general:
- greatly limit the amount of bullshit degrees people get; sociology, feminist dance theory, etc. If this is the only kind of degree you can get, think long and hard about whether you want/need a degree at all
- Cut it out with the private schools. Parents need to start telling their kids no far more often. Your child does not need to spend $40k/year on a degree from a private school. Stop encouraging this, and tell them no.
- further to point 1 the lending program should be rejiggered to make access to funds much harder for bullshit degrees with no ROI. If you need $100k for a masters in social work...sorry, loan denied.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wish I could say the same. In my immediate circle one guy thought he'd get into law. The rest of us thought medicine. Oh, how that changed once we realized we could play video games and drink without any supervision. The law guy actually did get into it, stayed on the straight and narrow. My wife and all of her immediate girlfriends did the same--studied, got their degrees in four years, that's that.
But as for me and my other friends? I screwed around a good bit, though not as much as they. Some of them took five years getting their degree, then went on ultimately to careers well below their potential, and their degrees were of little actual contribution to their lives. I ended up faring well but I was very close to taking another path that wouldn't have been nearly so successful. All things considered I got lucky, but it's taught me that the "college experience" is hugely overrated. For me I came out of high school a hard, diligent worker and the lack of structure at college blew it to smithereens, taking an extremely long time to set right. My older brother followed the same track. Jerked around in college but for the grace of IT we managed to find lucrative careers we were good at. In any other day and age who knows what we'd be doing.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Sounds like an idea a kindergartner with no idea how economics works came up with.
"Why don't we just add a million dollars to everyone's bank account, then everybody can have whatever they want"
"Why don't we just add a million dollars to everyone's bank account, then everybody can have whatever they want"
You heard about the pool analogy right?