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Should Vance or Thune fire/replace Senate Parilementarian Elizabeth MacDonough?

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Edit: Can a mod fix the typo in the poll, please.

I'm not sure why she was left in her position when she was appointed by a liberal. Vance should have replaced her day 1. I think this was a huge oversight.
 
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I don't even know what the fuck a parliamentarian is/does. Some shit the British slipped into the declaration of independence as a rule change before they presented it to the king?
 
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AI Overview

The Senate Parliamentarian is a non-partisan advisor to the Senate, providing guidance on Senate rules, precedents, and procedures. They advise the presiding officer, individual senators, and committee leaders on how to navigate Senate proceedings. This includes interpreting rules, settling procedural disputes, and ensuring that legislative actions adhere to Senate rules.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Interpreting Senate Rules:
    The Parliamentarian is an expert on the Senate's complex rules and precedents. They provide advice to senators and staff on how to apply these rules in various situations.

  • Non-partisan advice:
    The Parliamentarian is expected to be impartial and provide advice based on the Senate's rules, not on political considerations.

  • Settling Procedural Disputes:
    They help resolve disagreements over how a bill should be handled or whether a particular action is allowed under Senate rules.

  • Referring Legislation:
    The Parliamentarian plays a key role in referring legislation to the appropriate Senate committees.

  • Maintaining and Publishing Rules:
    They are responsible for maintaining and publishing the Senate's procedural rules and precedents.

  • Byrd Rule:
    In budget reconciliation, the Parliamentarian determines whether provisions in a bill comply with the Byrd Rule, which limits what can be included in such legislation.
Essentially, the Senate Parliamentarian acts as a referee, ensuring that the Senate operates according to its established procedures.
 
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She was INSTALLED by O`Bummer! She`s not elected to the position. Hell yes, fire the b!tch, and gitter GONE!
Vance could remove her. But he chose NOT to. Why do you think that is ???? Was it on purpose that he didnt remove her ????
 
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The silencer bill as written, was a policy change........not allowed in a budget reconciliation bill

Last Friday, the bill was changed to as tax change.,,,,delete the $200 TTAX on SBR's Silencers, and was legal......in a budget bill.

No parliamentarian ever wrote a rule or law.
 
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Congress has officially passed President Trump's "one big, beautiful bill" on Thursday afternoon.
218 to 214 vote.

www.foxnews.com

Congress sending Trump's 'big, beautiful bill' to his desk after dramatic all-night House vote

House Republicans delivered a stunning victory for President Donald Trump's agenda in the wee hours of Thursday morning.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

The bill now heads to the White House for President Trump to sign it into law.

All 212 Democratic members of the House opposed the bill. They were joined by Representatives Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, who broke from the Republican majority.
 
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Bigfoot said:
Illegal aliens just lost their free Medicare.
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Never should have been a thing ever. Some good and some bad in the bill. I’m sure some of it’s over exaggerated on the bad on one side and the same for the good on the other side.
All I know is it adds too much to our debt and with Medicaid and food stamps getting cut that could be problematic. I don’t think people realize how any rural poor republicans are on the dole for these two items. I guess time will tell how the public reacts to it.
 
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Those of you throwing your support behind the "Big Beautiful Bill" need to really consider it in its entirety. Does it have some good things? Sure. But it's also expected to add trillions to the national debt. While I wouldn't consider myself a deficit hawk, that is an awful lot of money that is going to do nothing but raise inflation and make things cost more. Our GDP is essentially paying the interest on our debt now and this is only going to make it work.

Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money. I believe we are rapidly approaching that period now.
 
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Catskillkid said:
Those of you throwing your support behind the "Big Beautiful Bill" need to really consider it in its entirety. Does it have some good things? Sure. But it's also expected to add trillions to the national debt. While I wouldn't consider myself a deficit hawk, that is an awful lot of money that is going to do nothing but raise inflation and make things cost more. Our GDP is essentially paying the interest on our debt now and this is only going to make it work.

Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money. I believe we are rapidly approaching that period now.
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That is what the GAO said but they said the same thing Trump’s first term. They always say the economy will grow at 1.something instead of what it actually does so their estimate on the impact to the debt is often wrong.
 
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Passing it was the lesser of the evils. Trump also didn't campaign on balancing the budget. This fortifies everything he campaigned on. It's funny how many people have been flat out wrong about everything Trump has done such as tariff's, Iran, NATO, etc. only to eat crow over time.
 
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Celt said:
Too bad there wasnt a shooting range near her house. People could really go to town and she would be begging for them to use suppressors.
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I remember years ago when us forum members had a range day and some C with wheels came over to bitch about the noise.

One of us deviants actually clicked off a tannerite shot when she was in the parking lot walking out.


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Catskillkid said:
Those of you throwing your support behind the "Big Beautiful Bill" need to really consider it in its entirety. Does it have some good things? Sure. But it's also expected to add trillions to the national debt. While I wouldn't consider myself a deficit hawk, that is an awful lot of money that is going to do nothing but raise inflation and make things cost more. Our GDP is essentially paying the interest on our debt now and this is only going to make it work.

Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money. I believe we are rapidly approaching that period now.
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Which is why I will still stand behind Rand Paul and Thomas Massie......
 
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Zerex said:
The silencer bill as written, was a policy change........not allowed in a budget reconciliation bill

Last Friday, the bill was changed to as tax change.,,,,delete the $200 TTAX on SBR's Silencers, and was legal......in a budget bill.

No parliamentarian ever wrote a rule or law.
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How is a tax not part of a budget??
 
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Dr. Evil said:
Passing it was the lesser of the evils. Trump also didn't campaign on balancing the budget. This fortifies everything he campaigned on. It's funny how many people have been flat out wrong about everything Trump has done such as tariff's, Iran, etc. only to eat crow over time.
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Show me where Trump did something pro 2a. The $0 tax isn't pro 2a.
 
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