Black powder gun
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You'd be hard pressed to find a vendor to ship one into NY. You can't even order DIY black powder guns to NY anymore.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
You used to be correct but I believe these are now listed as a firearm since NY last year redefined what a firearm is. Even prior to that you could possess them but if you had the means to fire the black powder pistol you needed to have it on a permit.
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Saltwater60 is 100% correct
Xae289
.223 Rem
Not related to the legality – if you really want one of those, I recommend getting a steel-frame version instead of a brass frame. You can buy a conversion cylinder for that revolver that lets you shoot .45 Colt ammo in it. While the conversion cylinders fit the brass frame guns, brass is weaker than steel, so shooting .45 Colt would stretch and destroy the frame.
The genuine 1858 Revolver is an engineering miracle.
There are steps incorporated into the cylinder that allow the hammer to rest into safe spaces.
Buy one with Steel, of course. Brass is a cruel joke.
There are steps incorporated into the cylinder that allow the hammer to rest into safe spaces.
Buy one with Steel, of course. Brass is a cruel joke.
teamsterjohn
9mm
Thank you all. I really just wanted one to put in a display case.
teamsterjohn
9mm
Real funny you are
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Get a replica one then if you just want to display it. Also anything prior to 1898 you don’t need a NICS a check on but now with the new law I’m not sure how that will work. Also if you get one that doesn’t function it can’t be called a firearm then. Or just drive to a neighboring state and buy what you please and make it inoperable prior to bringing it back to NYS(aka communism)
Also for the record I thought it was funny. It’s our sense of humor on here because of how ridiculous the NYS agin laws are. I’ll bet it’s been 125 years since some one was killed with a black powder gun so yeah I’m not sure why NYS did this.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I wish I wasn’t.
Xae289
.223 Rem
Yup, if I remember correctly, it was only the Confederacy that used brass frames for revolvers, and they only did it because they couldn't source enough steel. They had to resort to weaker metals like brass and pot iron to try to supply their troops.
Pedersoli
Uberti
Pietta
All make fine replica, fully functional Black Powder firearms.
I'd not trust my hand and fingers with any other.
Uberti
Pietta
All make fine replica, fully functional Black Powder firearms.
I'd not trust my hand and fingers with any other.
First Class Replicas of both the Starr Revolver and LeMat Revolver would be cool.
They are or were manufactured.
They are or were manufactured.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
I have a very fine 1858 Iver Johnson , sexy looking piece and built well too.
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Later Iver Johnson guns were not trash, but were considered second rate.
They were popular for US President Assassinations.
Iver Johnson - Wikipedia
I had no idea.
Later Iver Johnson guns were not trash, but were considered second rate.
They were popular for US President Assassinations.
Iver Johnson - Wikipedia
Assassinations[edit]
William McKinley assassination[edit]
On September 6, 1901, American steelworker and anarchist Leon Czolgosz shot President William McKinley at the Temple of Music in Buffalo, New York, with an Iver Johnson .32 caliber Safety Automatic revolver (serial number A18915). McKinley died nearly eight days later, at 2:15 am on the 14th of September. The revolver is currently on display at the Buffalo History Museum in Buffalo.[18]Franklin D. Roosevelt attempted assassination[edit]
In 1933, Giuseppe Zangara shot and killed Chicago mayor Anton Cermak at a political event in Miami, in an apparent attempt to assassinate president-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt. Zangara was using a .32 revolver by the United States Revolver Company, a subsidiary of Iver Johnson.[19]Robert Kennedy assassination[edit]
Jordanian Sirhan Sirhan assassinated Presidential candidate United States Senator Robert F. Kennedy with an eight-shot Iver Johnson Cadet 55-A revolver chambered in .22 Long Rifle, (serial number H-53725, Trial-People's Exhibit #6, misidentified in trial testimony as S/N H-18602) at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California, on June 5, 1968; Kennedy died the following day at Good Samaritan Hospital.[20] The revolver, as well as the official police files, reports, interviews, ballistics reports, bullet fragments, and other important evidence related to Kennedy's assassination, is currently housed in the California State Archives in Sacramento.[21]
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I’ve got a Colt Navy Pietta, quite a nice piece. Brass frame, and the cylinder doesn’t lock up correctly, so sadly more of a conversational item at the moment. I’d love to find a smith who could sort it out.
I’ve seen a reproduction LeMat… can’t recall who made it but it was quite expensive. Still super neat, I like offbeat and oddball things and that certainly checks those boxes!
Edit: Pietta, apparently. Out of stock…
I’ve seen a reproduction LeMat… can’t recall who made it but it was quite expensive. Still super neat, I like offbeat and oddball things and that certainly checks those boxes!
Edit: Pietta, apparently. Out of stock…
PH0608 PIETTA LEMAT CAVALRY REVOLVER
Invented in 1856 by Dr. J.A.F. LeMat of New Orleans and manufactured in Paris, France, and Birhamingham, England. The Lemat was a favorite sidearm of Confederate Generals Jeb Stuart and P.G.T. Beauregard. A single .20 gauge shotgun barrel under the .44 caliber barrel makes the Lemat a unique...
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Bustedknees
.308 Win
I have one, so you should treat me nice.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Because heil hochul said something about blackpowder rifles and then panicked knowing she was talking about a large group of people who can be very accurate with one, and blackpowder calibers range all the way up to cannon-ball sizes.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Taylor’s Firearms | Firearms and Accessories
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I put my 1860 Army on my permit.
I shoot it with paper cartridges like they used during the Civl War.
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I shoot it with paper cartridges like they used during the Civl War.
How to Make Paper Cartridges for Black Powder Revolvers
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
you can get a conversion cyl for it to shoot brass cowboy loads which cost more then the gun ... well at least mine lol
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1858 Remington | Taylor's Firearms
Conversion cylinder for 1858 cap and ball revolvers.
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There are commenorative LeMat.
I like this one:
I dislike this one:
I like this one:
I dislike this one:
The second one is a clown show, IMHO.
Do you mean Combustible Cartridges made with Flash Paper ?I put my 1860 Army on my permit.
I shoot it with paper cartridges like they used during the Civl War.
How to Make Paper Cartridges for Black Powder Revolvers
This column sponsored by:Star & Bullock Hardware - cartridgekits.com (opens in new window)Etsy Store For anyone who loves guns and loves shooting, our country is a pretty frustrating place right now. Even if you reload, try to get primers and powder. So it leaves you in a situation where it is...
Paper cartridge - Wikipedia