Boston Globe columnist calls for gun confiscations
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Steal2B
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I do not take Scharfenberg seriously. He is only where he is because his dead daddy was the Pulitzer prize winning editor of the Boston Globe. His daddy's claim to fame was for this liberal writer, who usually obsessed over wage gap topics, to draft then retract in a panic a headline calling Jimmy Carter a wimp. Looking at published articles, it looks like sonny boy often goes to the well with shock controversies. If his words had much influence, his recurring pieces on throwing the whole constution out and starting over would already have liberal traction.
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livingston
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wdeister08
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It would never be door-to-door. It's too inefficient and bound to be bloodfilled. You would see those mandatory buybacks first. Grab the easy ones first and then station uniforms on public ranges, as well as rewards for helping police catch the "criminals". That would drive people who would resist underground and essentially render 99% of the rifles confiscated and the remaining 1% hidden away collecting dust. Survivalist camps would likely see their fears of black birds realized as those would be the groups the government directly targeted because of the gun to manpower ratio, plus their danger to L&O. That's how I'd do it anyway
Mandatory Gun buy backs would be as big a catalyst as door to door confisaction.
wdeister08
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Nah. Cause the people that care wouldn't go and the people that were okay with it would. No one that wants to resist is going to go full tilt over that. Theyre gonna lay as low as possible while those are going on. Government has no idea the amount nor specifics of AR/AK rifle ownership. Plus they would never expect all the ARs to be turned in. I'm sure you'd find a few outliers in Australia who still possess SAs.
If there was a sudden law where you either turn in your gun in for a few hundred$ or if you keep it and get caught its a mandatory felony with long jail sentence....I fear 75% Or more of gun owners would surrender them.
Let me rephrase that.
Mandatory gun buy backs need to be as big a catalyst as door to door confiscation.
We need to draw a line in the sand people, and we need to stop backing away from it.
wdeister08
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That would be your only hope. After that youd never have the manpower again
livingston
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Make the penalty so severe that one would not risk ownership. ... Let a child abuser get 10 years for raping a 4 year old ..With time off for good behavior .. Maybe do 6-7... Own a 30 round mag 25 years mandatory ... Let a few thousand gun owners sit in prison ... What would happen....
Here are some oldies but goodies to keep in mind
I wonder If I'm gonna flunk my NICS check now cause of this thread.
wdeister08
.40 S&W
If James Yeager can literally make a video saying he's gonna kill people over gun grabbing and he's still buying weapons, I'm gonna bet you're fine.
ProgSpear
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Unintended Consequences
spat
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That won't happen here, they promise.
And if you like your health insurance plan you can keep it.
The social security number won't ever be used for anything other than social security.
Need I go on ?
spat
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Such an insurgency would force the government to crack down, removing more freedoms from the American public, and if done right would create new insurgents faster than they could be eliminated.
Remember, the goal of such an insurgency in the beginning isn't to defeat a vastly superior military force, it is to create more insurgents.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
GFYS 
Me too, I live in PA but have a business and a residence in NYS too.
Many times through history smaller, less trained and far out gunned forces have handed large militaries their asses.
We found that in Afganistan a less disciplined fighting force with no rules can be FAR more devastating than some well trainef armies.
Regimented military can be confused by guerilla warfare.
It all depends on who wants it more.
As far as the military and law enforcement not "switching sides", I would not ne too sure of that.
It may surprise you that 80%-90% of the soldiers and Marines I know on active duty plan wholeheartedly on supporting the patriotic side.
AndI know ALOT of warriors.
meketrefe
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These folks want to incite so see if they can trigger a civil war.
But they are just a bunch of idiots that don't know a thing about history and the dangers of big governments.
But they are just a bunch of idiots that don't know a thing about history and the dangers of big governments.
Phazer
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I've had the opposite experience when speaking to police in southern Westchester jurisdictions and in NYC. A majority of the ones I've spoken with would definitely follow orders to disarm law-abiding civilians.
Marine Cpl
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100 percent correct. Upper NY guys don't realize this. Law enforcement down here has a totally different attitude when it comes to guns.
Also, to everyone else, don't kid yourself about the National Guard. I know for a fact that they would just follow orders. They did in Katrina and they will in the future. 18 to 20 year olds don't know what the Constitution is other than something the teacher once said in class.
Look at those 20 year olds below in camo 52 seconds into the video.
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Theyve spent too much time being controlled by liberals. Any cop or serviceman that would follow orders to break their oath to uphold the constitution and act as muscle for politicians deserve the wrath they will recieve from the 95% of this country that arent progressive liberal puppets.
Believe it or not, even the Nazis had ALOT of members that refused to exterminate the Jews.....and they werent told to go against their own people but an "inferior" race.
Also, im not talking just about cops. My experience over the last 27 years has been with military members both active and retired. They overwhelmingly are pro constitution and anti leftist politician.
I also know many badass mofos that never served but can be a force to be reckoned with.
Who knows, the entire US military overseas and home, including reserves is around 2 million.
Just the 3%ers in america is almost 10 million.
And I believe these days the number of militant patriots could be twice that.
Marine Cpl
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I did a brief stint in the National Guard in 2011 and 2012. I asked the question if they would and got yes's from the 3 guys I asked in my team. Maybe because they were downstate kids, I don't know. They didn't think it was wrong and thought disobeying a lawful order was major. The point is that there are those who will. To say none will is false. Not all infantry units in the Guard are country boys. Alpha co. in NYC is compromised of mostly kids from ghettos from the Dominican Republic along with black kids from the projects. Charlie in Camp Smith had lots of Westchester and Rockland kids. Then you have Long Island units.
Phazer
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Many law enforcement officers that are in their 20s-30s, that have not had at least reasonable home discussions about our national founding and the U.S. Constitution, have had unopposed indoctrination by Liberals who run the educational system. Until such people are forced to "take the red pill" by studying real facts or being confronted by strong constitutionalists that they are still willing to listen to, they will follow orders and do as they are told. To them, "history" is a recent construct. As Obama said, in a screed of unmitigated hubris: "We are the people we've been waiting for."
Thus, I believe that younger LEOs and military service members are not generally knowledgeable enough to understand the historical unconstitutionality of orders to disarm law-abiding Americans even when their superiors tell them that they must: "protect society," "safeguard the general peace," or "protect children from gun violence."
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Austalia is a nation of sellouts and lapdogs who don't even put one of their own on their own coins for crying out loud. Canada is only marginally better. They still take it in the ass from the british, likely using maple syrup as lube.
holdover
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The National Guard are not going to fire on thier cousins, family and friends.. They would fracture the same as everybody else has done
Marine Cpl
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Generally something like that is done with units not from the area. During Sandy, my unit went to Manhattan and Long Island from Camp Smith in Westchester County.
Evidence of that is in Katrina. If you watch the video linked above, those kids in the National Guard weren't from New Orleans proper if you know what I mean.
I didnt say none, but many.
Even if they all obey, they would be outnumbered 5 to 1.
I served 8 years active, mostly combat and most favored our side.
They were offering their lives for the freedoms so many others have fought and died for.
The constitution and the BOR are pretty big deals to most combat soldiers in my experience.
Like I said before, im not talking about a little thing here, im talking about an all out ban on all firearms. Where police are kicking in doors and searching. If it comes to this it means other facets of government will have already broken down.
Non gun owners will be realizing the end of our constitutional republic is nearing.
If they come for every 22 rifle and Civil War era collectible many Americans will realize their freedom of religion, due process and freedom of speech could be next.
In order to execute these confiscations the government will have to allow illegal searches and seizures. Others will see the slipperyness of the slope, I have some faith in regular Americans.