Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Break up NY Meeting 10/29/2019
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Would love to have the hemorroids removed from the state.
Bigfoot
.450/400 Nitro Ex
If the split ever did happen. I think that somehow NYC would still have some control over NYS.
Through corruption and fraud NYC would probably have their very own puppet in place in "New Albany."
To much revenue at stake for them dirty scoundrels not to.
Through corruption and fraud NYC would probably have their very own puppet in place in "New Albany."
To much revenue at stake for them dirty scoundrels not to.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The people who get to decide if this happens are currently in charge of the whole state.
Why on earth would they ever want to divide it ?
Obviously it would be great for us, but terrible for FUAC and company.
Why on earth would they ever want to divide it ?
Obviously it would be great for us, but terrible for FUAC and company.
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
Not just revenue is at stake. 90% of the NYC drinking water supply comes from the Catskill watershed. A full third of their trash gets shipped upstate to landfills in the Finger Lakes. NYC and Long Island use better than 2/3 of the state's electricity, but less than half is generated there. And new York STILL has to import electricity from adjoining states and Canada to cover our energy needs. I can't imagine ANY scenario where they would give that up.
TheMoneyPit
.357 mag
Sounds like they need us and we SHOULD have more say in their puppet show. Again pipe dream but hypothetically if those services were stopped they would be in rough shape rather quick.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Go for it! If you never try, you will never achieve anything.
Robin
Robin
NYS is a lost cause unfortunately. There is simply no viable way to split the state up, when NYC has the votes to prevent it from happening under any conceivable scenario. Short of the Federal Courts ordering it under some new and novel approach such as the people upstate having no representation at the state level, NOTHING will ever happen.
Politically and economically, it is like the Titanic. Slow moving, unresponsive, unrecoverable, and going in one direction only: Down.
After giving NY over 60 years of my life and my hard earned taxed dollars, I caught a lifeboat, and got out. I simply couldn't fight it anymore. Sorry for all who are left, want to leave, and can't get out for one reason or another.
It was my lifelong home, and I loved almost everything about it. And BTW Princess: I loved the change of seasons, and even the snowy weather NEVER bothered me! People aren't leaving because of the weather. But in the end, the political and economic realities forced my hand.
FUAC!
Politically and economically, it is like the Titanic. Slow moving, unresponsive, unrecoverable, and going in one direction only: Down.
After giving NY over 60 years of my life and my hard earned taxed dollars, I caught a lifeboat, and got out. I simply couldn't fight it anymore. Sorry for all who are left, want to leave, and can't get out for one reason or another.
It was my lifelong home, and I loved almost everything about it. And BTW Princess: I loved the change of seasons, and even the snowy weather NEVER bothered me! People aren't leaving because of the weather. But in the end, the political and economic realities forced my hand.
FUAC!
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I may go. I went to a 2a event there and was not impressed. It will honestly depend on the weather. If I can fish I will fish instead.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Buzz killer!
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
NYexit?
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
I think we would need a Electoral College in NYS first to balance out NYC .. then would we could have a chance
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Why even waste your time going to such a stupid event? That’s like me going to a conference for the creation and advancement of the Alien Defense Forces for the coming Martian War.
In all seriousness, that’s like FUAC making silencers legal. No. Scratch that. That’s like ANTIFA rioting for the impeachment of Nancy Pelosi. No. That’s like some of you guys thinking that there would ever be a Civil War with the cops on our side.
All equally ridiculous.
In all seriousness, that’s like FUAC making silencers legal. No. Scratch that. That’s like ANTIFA rioting for the impeachment of Nancy Pelosi. No. That’s like some of you guys thinking that there would ever be a Civil War with the cops on our side.
All equally ridiculous.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
So, what exactly would you get off your ass for.
Robin
Robin
You can't even get people to agree to open up the State Constitution which would have allowed fixing "some" of the problems within the State. Couple that with abysmal voter turnout for anything but BIG elections, and as noted, the pork barrel gravy train most State residents would fear losing... And you haven't got a snowflakes chance in hell for any paradigm shift in this State! It will be politics as usual in our foreseeable future!
Only change comes, maybe, with an asteroid strike at Albany with full house sessions at work and the governor present. Maybe... Lol
Only change comes, maybe, with an asteroid strike at Albany with full house sessions at work and the governor present. Maybe... Lol
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I think if it made it onto the ballot and it didn’t change our national political influence it has a chance of passing. If Andrew Cuomo keeps his influence as well.
think about it the NYC assholes don’t like us any more than we don’t like them. Sorry I’m not including those of you stuck behind even worse enemy lines. The people in NYC want their own little liberal utopia let them. It would be interesting to see what would happen if it was on the ballot.
those of you against it or saying it won’t happen should read the plan. I think it’s feasible to do.
think about it the NYC assholes don’t like us any more than we don’t like them. Sorry I’m not including those of you stuck behind even worse enemy lines. The people in NYC want their own little liberal utopia let them. It would be interesting to see what would happen if it was on the ballot.
those of you against it or saying it won’t happen should read the plan. I think it’s feasible to do.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Only things that are real.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah, but even the Titanic broke in half.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
And then it sank.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
No, it sank first. Maybe we have to reach bottom before it will inevitably happen.
Robin
Robin
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
On the bright side management and administrators went down too. Not a total loss.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I'm pretty sure it broke in half when it was still mostly afloat and the stern was sticking up out of the water. Then the bow half sank to the bottom. The stern bobbed for a bit and then sank as well. Regardless, it was doomed before it happened. Much like this state.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Either way, it broke up, metaphorically or in reality, it broke up. Timing isn't everything.
Robin
Robin
Bigfoot
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I doubt a split would happen... But I am thinking about going anyways to learn more about it.
The place is about an hour from me maybe a little less depending on traffic.
I do not like going to the Buffalo area... I do not like people, and there are a lot of people there... LOL
There are a lot of good places to eat in the Buffalo area. So I always make a point to take advantage of that if I do have to go to Buffalo... Maybe Ted's Hot Dogs, that's always a treat when I have to go to the Buffalo area.
But yeah, I am seriously thinking about going and hear what has to be said about it.
The place is about an hour from me maybe a little less depending on traffic.
I do not like going to the Buffalo area... I do not like people, and there are a lot of people there... LOL
There are a lot of good places to eat in the Buffalo area. So I always make a point to take advantage of that if I do have to go to Buffalo... Maybe Ted's Hot Dogs, that's always a treat when I have to go to the Buffalo area.
But yeah, I am seriously thinking about going and hear what has to be said about it.
Bigfoot
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I think that @Acer-m14 has a good idea concerning the electoral college type of voting in NY.
Actually, not only in NY, but other states as well. All 3 states on the west coast for an example.
There are a lot of freedom loving people there that are in the same situation that us freedom loving NYers are in.
If I do happen to go to the event I should ask about the electoral college thing and hear what anyone else has to say about that... Is the EC even doable.? I mean would something like that even have a chance of becoming a reality in NY... IDK
The state of Illinois would be another good example... On their gun forum they bitch about being ruled by Chicago politics and their 2A rights being violated and not having any meaningful representation just like we in NY do.
I just don't think that the city-states would relinquish control over the (so called) peasants in the rural areas.
The leftists are all about control, forcing their will on others. To them, the more people to control, the better.
Actually, not only in NY, but other states as well. All 3 states on the west coast for an example.
There are a lot of freedom loving people there that are in the same situation that us freedom loving NYers are in.
If I do happen to go to the event I should ask about the electoral college thing and hear what anyone else has to say about that... Is the EC even doable.? I mean would something like that even have a chance of becoming a reality in NY... IDK
The state of Illinois would be another good example... On their gun forum they bitch about being ruled by Chicago politics and their 2A rights being violated and not having any meaningful representation just like we in NY do.
I just don't think that the city-states would relinquish control over the (so called) peasants in the rural areas.
The leftists are all about control, forcing their will on others. To them, the more people to control, the better.
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I think this is a fantastic idea. I would be and I am 100% on board for this to occur.
Shame it will never come to fruition. I think if done correctly, this could and would work out fine for the good parts of NY. The area that would remain NY State would be fucked. The southern, shitty part of NY needs the good part way more than reverse.
Shame it will never come to fruition. I think if done correctly, this could and would work out fine for the good parts of NY. The area that would remain NY State would be fucked. The southern, shitty part of NY needs the good part way more than reverse.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
But it's important to remember that someone got fucked before the ship sank..so keep that in mind,,, we're half way there.