E the massive
.308 Win
Linked. One round per "device", loaded by mechanical action of the rifle.Belt Fed AR15
Building an AR15 with fixed mag and a featureless AR 9mm
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
A belt can be readily converted to a large capacity feeding device. All it takes is the simple attachment of another link which can be done with just one hand.
23. “Large capacity ammunition feeding device” means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (a) has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition,
23. “Large capacity ammunition feeding device” means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (a) has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition,
E the massive
.308 Win
Not a feeding device.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It clearly says that a belt is in the above definition.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
A single link becomes a belt when just one more link is attached to it.
E the massive
.308 Win
No. Then 2 10rd mags coupled is a twenty round?
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
I was clearly joking but all jokes aside can’t you just have a belt that’s no more than 10 rounds or does that bothers Cuomo menstrual cycle?
E the massive
.308 Win
Sure, but that is gay AF. "Belt fed" are not even mass produced anymore.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No. 2 separate things. A magazine can or cannot be readily convertible to accept more than 10 rounds. If it’s built as a 10 rounder, it cannot be readily convertible. If 2 10 rounders are taped together, you have 2 separate magazines taped together.
A belt is always readily convertible. That’s how it’s designed to work. It can accept and infinite amount of links to work together.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Get a new dealer.
Any nys dealer can accept any firearm (within the confines of said FFL license he has). He can then make it legal and then transfer to you.
Any nys dealer can accept any firearm (within the confines of said FFL license he has). He can then make it legal and then transfer to you.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
My latest build, should be good to go.
Robin
Robin
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
I want three of them.
jw816
9mm
I am sorry if someone feels my question is a big waste of time. I am a newbie and learning.
In fact, I have been wanting a rifle for a long time, but commuting between the city and home daily didn't let me have enough time to think of getting a rifle. Now in this horrible time, I really feel that I need something in hand to protect my family. In the meantime, I stay home and have a lot of time now.
After many hours studying online, I finally decide to build an AR15 myself. The plan is to use Aero Precision upper and low with Thordsen Gen III stock. Finally, I need to find a gunsmith to pin and weld a muzzle brake. I just placed an order for Aero Precision Stripped Lower Receiver, Gen 2 - FDE Cerakote today, and am very excited to start the building process.
In fact, I have been wanting a rifle for a long time, but commuting between the city and home daily didn't let me have enough time to think of getting a rifle. Now in this horrible time, I really feel that I need something in hand to protect my family. In the meantime, I stay home and have a lot of time now.
After many hours studying online, I finally decide to build an AR15 myself. The plan is to use Aero Precision upper and low with Thordsen Gen III stock. Finally, I need to find a gunsmith to pin and weld a muzzle brake. I just placed an order for Aero Precision Stripped Lower Receiver, Gen 2 - FDE Cerakote today, and am very excited to start the building process.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Can't he just get one at a gun show? Loopholes and all.
Can't have muzzle brake if mag is detachable. If mag is fixed no reason to use Thordsen stock.
jw816
9mm
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have changed my mind and am going to build an interchangeable mag AR.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
Id tell you to get a fixed AR because me personally I hate the thordsen stock, feels uncomfortable and looks horrible. Good luck on getting what you want.
jw816
9mm
I did a search on the forum and found this document.
So, I assume that it is ok if a muzzle brake is permanently attached to the barrel and doesn't function as a flash suppressor.
So, I assume that it is ok if a muzzle brake is permanently attached to the barrel and doesn't function as a flash suppressor.
jw816
9mm
I see. I may just buy a thread cover and permanently attach it to the barrel.
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I would ask how and where you are getting your lower from considering almost all gunships in the state are closed and you came in talking about being a new buyer so i assume you dont know even a tabletop FFL, but I won't bother.
Oh wait I just did.
Magic eight ball sniff test signs point to funky.
Oh wait I just did.
Magic eight ball sniff test signs point to funky.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Here is the rule in a very basic sense. With the safe act nys went to a one feature test. That one feature is a " detachable magazine".
If the gun is semi-auto with a detachable magazine you cannot have any other features, pinned and welded or not. Your detachable mag IS your one and only allowed feature.
If your gun is semi-auto with a fixed mag, it is not banned from having other features because of the fixed mag. NOTE: what qualifies as a fixed mag on an AR, has not been defined really.
In fact, none of the compliance options have been officially deemed legal by the state. It's all based off of the letter of the law which states the combination of "rifle", "semi-auto" and "detachable magazine" as qualifiers for guns that cannot have features like muzzle devices, pistol grips, adjustable stocks, Etc., Etc..
Your questions aren't a waste of time, it's just that they've been asked and answered many, many times already here on the forum. We've also had an influx of new members posting with questions like these right off the bat, which comes across as strange to some here.
That said, don't get discouraged, we've all been where you are at one point or another. I am glad you have found an interest in guns and have joined the forum.
If the gun is semi-auto with a detachable magazine you cannot have any other features, pinned and welded or not. Your detachable mag IS your one and only allowed feature.
If your gun is semi-auto with a fixed mag, it is not banned from having other features because of the fixed mag. NOTE: what qualifies as a fixed mag on an AR, has not been defined really.
In fact, none of the compliance options have been officially deemed legal by the state. It's all based off of the letter of the law which states the combination of "rifle", "semi-auto" and "detachable magazine" as qualifiers for guns that cannot have features like muzzle devices, pistol grips, adjustable stocks, Etc., Etc..
Your questions aren't a waste of time, it's just that they've been asked and answered many, many times already here on the forum. We've also had an influx of new members posting with questions like these right off the bat, which comes across as strange to some here.
That said, don't get discouraged, we've all been where you are at one point or another. I am glad you have found an interest in guns and have joined the forum.
jw816
9mm
I did talk to my local dealer and he said it is ok.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No offense. But since you do not have a full grasp on the laws, I would buy complete rifle from the dealer rather than building it yourself.
jw816
9mm
I understand what you meant. At this point, I still can go for a fixed mag AR if I am not sure. Once I have a fixed mag, everything else should be fine.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yes. Just know that a fixed mag comes with a myriad of problems that affect functionality. The AR platform wasn’t designed to have a fixed magazine. So when a malfunction happens, it is difficult to clear. If this is just a toy to mess around with at the range, then it doesn’t matter. If it’s going to be used for home defense, then it does and you are better off with a featureless rifle.
RomanRider
.40 S&W
Whatchu talkin about willis? Gun shops around here (Utica/Rome area) are operating. I think they are limited hours and maybe curbside pickup, but advertising on FB guns & ammo for sale just about every day. AR lowers left & right and are being snapped up quickly. And then there's Runnings, Bass Pro, Gander, etc., I'm pretty sure they are essential. Runnings was out of AR lowers when I wanted to buy but I found a couple at a local shop at an even better price. I'm a lifelong firearms fan but an AR noob and may ask questions accordingly
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Take a ride to Ulster Firearms when they reopen. They have a huge selection of AR's with all the features. They will fix the magazine for you. I got one with a 10 round magazine and then bought a 5 round limiter from Magpul so I can use it for hunting. I also have speed loaders that can reload through the ejection port just about as fast as changing a magazine.
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jw816
9mm
Thanks for the info! I will definitely do that.
Xae289
.223 Rem
have a "NY Compliance FAQ" thread with a first post that is a giant list of common Q and A's and a big, fat disclaimer saying "this isn't legal advice, read the laws yourself and decide for yourself or pay the lawyer who will represent you in court if you're arrested to give you some advice before you do anything."Maybe a sticky thread "NY compliance questions" though I'm sure it would devolve into bickering over the definition of undefined terms like "permanent" and "conspicuously".
I will say for my part I have tried to dial back my knee jerk "this is a reporter/cop/troll" reaction to these because I'd very much like to reach that 10 out of a thousand that legitimately want to join our ranks as NY firearms owners.