Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I already explained that to you multiple times. Read my previous posts.
Bullet button legality in NYS
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
One day this so called law will be thrown out. Mark what I'm telling you. This is an illegal order by a crack pot govomor and will never stand in court.
People bending over backwards to comply with this make me sick. I can forgive the vendors, they have to eat. But to lay down like a fucking dog and accept this .goes against my grain
Don't tread on me or I will comply.
Jeezus grow a backbone and deal with the consequences
People bending over backwards to comply with this make me sick. I can forgive the vendors, they have to eat. But to lay down like a fucking dog and accept this .goes against my grain
Don't tread on me or I will comply.
Jeezus grow a backbone and deal with the consequences
I agree.
Sure, I don't risk consequences regarding my guns, but I certainly do in others ways at least once a week at the range. I proudly ignore multiple gun laws regularly and talk about it openly with many others at work. If you're not willing to risk your principles, you really don't have any.
Sure, I don't risk consequences regarding my guns, but I certainly do in others ways at least once a week at the range. I proudly ignore multiple gun laws regularly and talk about it openly with many others at work. If you're not willing to risk your principles, you really don't have any.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No offense but that is a lot easier to say when you have a 99 % chance of not getting arrested.
In another thread you agreed that it was stupid to carry 15 rounders just because. Now, I do things too when I feel the risk is justified but I'm not going to tell someone else that they should risk their principles for a pistol grip out in public.
It is stupid to parade in front of a cop for no reason other than to be the actual embodiment of John Stark's fake bravado. And of course there are limits. Like I don't expect my civie friends down here to carry to and from the range. But I do expect them to own whatever they can legally acquire in say, PA, and use it at the range at least if they want to talk smack about being a patriot who keeps it real.
Should I ever see an 80% lower full-featured AR again in the hands of an evil NYC gun owner, I know what I will do no matter who else might be on the line. And by again I don't expect it to be a rare occurrence as I'm usually asked to... well, lol, we have rats here.
Be a badass or don't, that's fine, just don't talk like one unless you are.
Should I ever see an 80% lower full-featured AR again in the hands of an evil NYC gun owner, I know what I will do no matter who else might be on the line. And by again I don't expect it to be a rare occurrence as I'm usually asked to... well, lol, we have rats here.
Be a badass or don't, that's fine, just don't talk like one unless you are.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well said. I can't argue with that.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ummm.... what thread have you been reading?
Well, someone specific I mean...
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
As far as I know that's what was approved by the state police. Also epoxy has to be over the magazine locking device. I bought DDs ranch kit and that's what it said approved by NYS after epoxyi g over the screw hole. I know it's approved because they are at the gun shows and the police are all over the place. I agree it's stupid, but what makes any magazine lock legal since all of them can be converted back, but many are legal. Just like my 12 round mags pinned at 10 rounds. A dreamer can take are of that easily.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
it doesn't pass muster because it's water downed garbage. Only a fully operational,release passes muster.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I don't think anything was specifically approved by the SP, as in, in writing. It's all based on what certain Troopers have said. They don't know which way is up either, the rank and file Troopers anyway. I've talked to the local LEOs and what I get from them is their simple but effective test for what they deem as Safe compliance. If they press the mag release and the mag stays fixed, it's good to go. That's Troop C. The Sheriff pretty much feels like, F' the safe act.
I have yet to see anything in writing. I know there was supposedly some paper from a NY gun manufacturer that had some deal with the SP but it's a bunch of BS.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
yep ... never seen anything in writing .. just talk .. "NY gun manufacturer that had some deal with the SP" was in NYC / Long Island .. but nothing in writing ..
even the UNsafe act site is a lie .. just a bunch a blop .. post the text of the law and post examples .. even the .gov site is fake news ..
State police don't hassle him for selling his ar's with epoxy. State police also like the little sticker on the mag locks he sells that says use epoxy. He knows, as well as the state police, you don't have to epoxy it. It's not a bb. The law doesn't say we need the state police' or any atf agents approval, but when you're running a business it's wise to keep them happy.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
We all have our button.
Robin
Robin
And some are more easily pushed then others!!
Cattafly
.40 S&W
I contacted our illustrious Attny General and asked for a definitive answer on what constitutes a fixed magazine. I received a reply in the form of a letter that basically says to contact the State Police. Well, my take on this is if the Attny General can't give you a definitive answer then the law is to confusing to be upheld in a court of law. How can the court system expect anyone to be able to comply when the State itself can't give any kind of answer other than ask someone else.
Now if all here just argue amongst ourselves would contact The Attny General asking for a definitive answer and getting nothing, when and if it became an issue, I'd say we'd have a pretty good case against the State. I personally take his response as I don't know so he is leaving it up to me to figure out their unclear interpretation of the law.
All of this is just my opinion but I will not let the State scare me into not exercising my rights just because I might get in trouble.
Now if all here just argue amongst ourselves would contact The Attny General asking for a definitive answer and getting nothing, when and if it became an issue, I'd say we'd have a pretty good case against the State. I personally take his response as I don't know so he is leaving it up to me to figure out their unclear interpretation of the law.
All of this is just my opinion but I will not let the State scare me into not exercising my rights just because I might get in trouble.
freddy
.308 Win
Has there ever been more time wasted on a stupid question on this site ? Of course a bullet button is a no go because the lower can still accept a magazine. There is this big hole there you can stuff any mag up to 100 rounds into and rock and roll. If there is no open hole, then the lower cannot accept a magazine. As long as the hole is plugged with a 10 round or less magazine that cannot be removed w/o tools and time or plugged with a chunk of wood held in by 6 screws is immaterial. This is almost as bad as Facebook !
What is needed on NY beaches !
What is needed on NY beaches !
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Can that lower still accept a magazine after the 10 rounder is removed with a tool? Yes or no.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Try as I may I am having trouble finding the firearm in this photo.
As South Park said: "Dumb-de-dumb-dum". When you find me a SINGLE conviction, then your ZERO score may improve.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
A bone stock SKS can accept a detachable magazine after you remove the fixed one. Is that a no-go too ?
What rifles can you think of that that actually have a fixed enough mag ? Any ?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You sound like a broken record. It's been explained to you already.