Cureforcancer
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Apparently dishonorable discharge from the Mil. Take it with a grain or 2 of salt as the media is going bonkersz.
Church shooting in Texas, several casualties reported
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Facebook pages don’t look like that. That Antifa flag was added to the photo.
Thx, I don't have FB. I'm a social media recluse.
I took that post down. I don't want to knowingly post inaccurate information
Cureforcancer
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http://tribunist.com/news/armed-nei...-to-drop-rifle-and-flee-scene/?utm_source=GSL
Now this. ?????
Who knows.
Now this. ?????
Who knows.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Just found this...
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
It's a sad state when a church has to have an armed "security team".
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
An easy answers are:
They don’t want to make another mistake like the security guard shot timeline. Conflicting reports .
Mandalay Bay not giving them all the info.
Believe that other suspects who may have provided aid and don’t have want to tip them off before they have enough or if they are determined to be innocent, not ruin their lives as being named a suspect.
freddy
.308 Win
Good possibilities there.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Sweetyzfd
.45 acp
Murderer looks like the typical goofy fuck
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
THATS what his video shows
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Devin Patrick Kelley ID’d as Sutherland Springs Church Killer
Kelley entered First Baptist Church at approximately 11:30, witnesses reported, and opened fire. Officials said Kelley wore a ballistic vest and dressed in all black. A law enforcement official told The Daily Beast it is "assumed" that Kelley used the same rifle in the church was photographed on Facebook.
When Kelley exited the church, he dropped his rifle, a law enforcement source told The Daily Beast. Kelley was pursued by a civilian with a shotgun, Sheriff Joe Tackett said on Sunday evening during a press conference, and died near the city of New Berlin. It is unclear if Kelley was killed or died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Kelley entered First Baptist Church at approximately 11:30, witnesses reported, and opened fire. Officials said Kelley wore a ballistic vest and dressed in all black. A law enforcement official told The Daily Beast it is "assumed" that Kelley used the same rifle in the church was photographed on Facebook.
When Kelley exited the church, he dropped his rifle, a law enforcement source told The Daily Beast. Kelley was pursued by a civilian with a shotgun, Sheriff Joe Tackett said on Sunday evening during a press conference, and died near the city of New Berlin. It is unclear if Kelley was killed or died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Confirmed ID, Unconfirmed Motive – Unconfirmed Reports are beginning to circulate that the shooter is an Antifa member, Devin Patrick Kelly (26), with military experience, acting out on behalf of the previously promoted November 4th Resistance via Antifa. FACTS From Texas LEO and FBI Press Conference:
- “Largest mass shooting in state history” ~ Gov. Greg Abbott [Texas]
- 26 dead + Shooter = Total 27 [23 inside church, 2 outside, 1 hospital death]
- 11:20am Suspect was seen dressed in all black. Tactical Gear and Ballistic Vest
- Weapon: Ruger AR-type Rifle. Commonly known as ‘Bushmaster’.
- Eye witness neighbor engaged shooter with his own rifle [possibly hit shooter in neck]. Shooter dropped weapon and fled in vehicle. Citizen pursued suspect in vehicle.
- Police arrived to vehicle, shooter dead.
- Ages of 26 victims: 5-years old to 72-years-old.
- Texas Church Shooter Identified: Devin Patrick Kelly, 26, – From New Braunfels, A Suburb of San Antonio…
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I would guess that if he slowed and went off the road on his own he was probably mortally wounded when he was shot by the church and dropped his weapon.
I guess it's possible he was dead when he stopped car or finishing bleeding out. Sounds like he was wounded in shoot out with neighbor outside the church, tried to escape and started bleeding out. Just my .02
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
dishonorable discharges are prohibited by the Gun Control Act of 1968 from possessing firearms
UPDATE: Sutherland Springs Shooter Devin Kelley Was Dishonorably Discharged, Court Martialed in 2014 – Against the Law to Own Guns
UPDATE: Sutherland Springs Shooter Devin Kelley Was Dishonorably Discharged, Court Martialed in 2014 – Against the Law to Own Guns
November 5, 2017 by Jim Hoft 42 Comments
Kelley was thrown out of the US Air Force.
Devin Kelley was court martialed in 2014 after a dishonorable discharge.
Here is the case number:
No. 14-0387/AF. U.S. v. Devin P. KELLEY. CCA 38267.
According to McMilitary Law: States have laws for gun control for court martial cases.
Will I be able to own firearms?
Federal and state laws do place restrictions on the purchase of firearms by those convicted of felonies. 18 USC § 922(b). Many jurisdictions distinguish between violent and non-violent offenses.
It was against the law for Devin to own firearms.
Josh Caplan adds this on dishonorable discharge and firearms.
A dishonorable discharge (DD), similarly referred to as a “duck dinner” in military slang,[16] can only be handed down to an enlisted member by a general court-martial. Dishonorable discharges are handed down for what the military considers the most reprehensible conduct. This type of discharge may be rendered only by conviction at a general court-martial for serious offenses (e.g., desertion, sexual assault, murder, etc.) that call for dishonorable discharge as part of the sentence.
With this characterization of service, all veterans’ benefits are lost, regardless of any past honorable service, and this type of discharge is regarded as shameful in the military. In many states a dishonorable discharge is deemed the equivalent of a felony conviction, with attendant loss of civil rights.[17] Additionally, US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged[18] per the Gun Control Act of 1968.
UPDATE: Sutherland Springs Shooter Devin Kelley Was Dishonorably Discharged, Court Martialed in 2014 – Against the Law to Own Guns
UPDATE: Sutherland Springs Shooter Devin Kelley Was Dishonorably Discharged, Court Martialed in 2014 – Against the Law to Own Guns
November 5, 2017 by Jim Hoft 42 Comments
Kelley was thrown out of the US Air Force.
Devin Kelley was court martialed in 2014 after a dishonorable discharge.
Here is the case number:
No. 14-0387/AF. U.S. v. Devin P. KELLEY. CCA 38267.
According to McMilitary Law: States have laws for gun control for court martial cases.
Will I be able to own firearms?
Federal and state laws do place restrictions on the purchase of firearms by those convicted of felonies. 18 USC § 922(b). Many jurisdictions distinguish between violent and non-violent offenses.
It was against the law for Devin to own firearms.
Josh Caplan adds this on dishonorable discharge and firearms.
A dishonorable discharge (DD), similarly referred to as a “duck dinner” in military slang,[16] can only be handed down to an enlisted member by a general court-martial. Dishonorable discharges are handed down for what the military considers the most reprehensible conduct. This type of discharge may be rendered only by conviction at a general court-martial for serious offenses (e.g., desertion, sexual assault, murder, etc.) that call for dishonorable discharge as part of the sentence.
With this characterization of service, all veterans’ benefits are lost, regardless of any past honorable service, and this type of discharge is regarded as shameful in the military. In many states a dishonorable discharge is deemed the equivalent of a felony conviction, with attendant loss of civil rights.[17] Additionally, US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged[18] per the Gun Control Act of 1968.
I've never understood why people say this.
Nothing has divided people more and lead to more deaths in history than religion.
It's like when the news says "And now people want to carry guns at a church!?" Yeah...that'd be a place I imagine a lot of people get violent about their world views. Since the beginning of time...
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
- Weapon: Ruger AR-type Rifle. Commonly known as ‘Bushmaster’.
I drove my Chevy Silverado, commonly known as a Ford, into a large crowd of people...
I drank my Pepsi, commonly known as "Red Bull" to give me wings.
Honestly, the media isn't even trying to factual with anything gun related ever.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Adam Lanza used an AR-15-style Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle... So they say
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
RELATED:
— MSNBC’s Jansing on Texas: This ‘Puzzles’ Foreign Countries Like Japan with ‘Restrictive Gun Laws’
— Rep. Gonzales: Texas Shooting ‘the 4th of 5th This Year that Could Have Been’ Prevented via Gun Control
— MSNBC’s Nance: ‘The Second Amendment Nullified the Right to Live’ for this Texas Church
— MSNBC’s Cavanaugh on Texas: ‘We Can’t Get Congress to Give Us One Sentence’ Banning Bump Stocks
— CNN’s Acosta on Texas Tragedy: Is this ‘the New Normal the President Is Comfortable With?’
— MSNBC’s Jansing on Texas: This ‘Puzzles’ Foreign Countries Like Japan with ‘Restrictive Gun Laws’
— Rep. Gonzales: Texas Shooting ‘the 4th of 5th This Year that Could Have Been’ Prevented via Gun Control
— MSNBC’s Nance: ‘The Second Amendment Nullified the Right to Live’ for this Texas Church
— MSNBC’s Cavanaugh on Texas: ‘We Can’t Get Congress to Give Us One Sentence’ Banning Bump Stocks
— CNN’s Acosta on Texas Tragedy: Is this ‘the New Normal the President Is Comfortable With?’
He was dishonorable dischaged. He was already banned from owning guns. How well did that law work?
I have to add this again
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I
itnis, but church attacks are rising astronomically fast so we set one up. We need to get a little more organized, but it's a good group. I was watching some one today who potentially raped some one in the past and has had issues at other churches. My pastor has had death threats.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I do wish they'd leave the accounts alone, just close commenting on said accounts. Kinda hard to make up information if the original is there to see.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Article says they took the phone of the fellow that chased and killed the shooter...Cannot have a loose end can we . ..
