Columbia County Felon Indicted Of Weapons Charges !
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eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Very sparsely populated area. Farms, generational hunters, people who keep to themselves, mostly. Gov regs are a world away.
Joe Blow
.45 acp
So, your viewpoint from Texas is that it's OK for felons in NY to have firearms as long as they are in what you consider to be "sparsely" populated areas? What about your current neighbors? If they are felons, is that OK?
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Where did I say it's OK for felons to have firearms? I know the area from when I lived up near there. It's the way people there think, not necessarily my view. Nice try, anyway. I know some of you guys are here to try to make me look bad, but you can do better, I know that for certain. Weak jabs like that just make YOU look bad.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
whatever happened to "did his/her time", in this state running a red light can be a felony <sarcasm> I guess it depends on what the felony conviction was
seriously, every single one of us has committed a Felony in the last month. you can't live in this state and not break a law
Well, if we follow the new legal paradigm established that "intent" is the precursor to criminal activity, we would have to understand his "intent" for possessing such weapons. They are used for hunting you know, although I don't say that as any arbitrator in validating their use or possession. Some Supreme Court Justice's have also questioned in a recent ruling, I believe it was Thomas, that a criminal conviction doesn't necessarily invalidate your Rights once released... Hmmmm
The larger question is what role Gov't should have in determining what your "Rights" are, seeing that you bring that up! Yeah, even the "Rights" of convicted felons upon their release, as perverted as that may sound, the argument has much merit!
Joe Blow
.45 acp
There are avenues for felons to be able to legally obtain firearms.
Joe Blow
.45 acp
In this day and age that's just fucking stupid.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
yes, But why should they have too. They paid their debt to society. Thats what prison is SUPPOSE to be for. After prison, they should have their rights restored. My only caveat to the "felon thing" is ~~~ was he/she a violent felon
I have an acquaintance that is a convicted felon. 30-40-years ago, He WAS an accountant at a major corporation. The IRS arrested him because the corporation and the IRS said he "was doing something, we can't figure out WHAT he was doing, but we know money is missing and we couldn't track it and we don't know where it is"
what it boiled down to was the IRS told him "we are going to hound you until the end of time, OR you could plead guilty to tax evasion, spend 18 months at Club Fed and be done with it ( and never, ever be an accountant again. and trust me, this guy can add figures in his head faster than any computer can)
He took the plea, went to jail for 18 months. he has been trying to get a shotgun so he can go hunting. NOPE, he's a convicted felon, no gun period, for any reason. He stopped trying to get a firearm 20 years ago.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Must be a lot more to this story.I live about 5 miles from Ancram,and like eagle said,very sparsely populated farm country.I'd like to know what bought him to the feds attention.
Joe Blow
.45 acp
I would think that for a white collar crime that long ago he'd be able to obtain a certificate of release to allow for the purchase / possession of firearms.
So he needs permission to exercise his Rights then?
The fact that once your penalty is served, how does the State then have the ability to decide what your Rights are and aren't? Hmmmmm, a very very slippery slope. But in today's world, it's all downhill anyways!
Joe Blow
.45 acp
Unfortunately, 'cause that's what the law says (I didn't write them nor do I fully agree with them). More unfortunate (from what I see) is that the laws pertaining to getting your rights back once one serves their debt to society does not distinguish between the different classes of felonies which is a large scale. It sees a felony as a felony and doesn't see a difference between a class A or a class E / violent or non violent for example. A very slippery downhill slope it is, especially in this state...
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Looking at older newspaper articles on this guy, he was likely out on early supervised release for previous felony drug and federal felony weapons convictions. Even then he may have already been a frequent ATF and DEA flyer. Suprised he was out and suprised he only had a .22 and a shotgun this time.
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Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
So child molestors should also get a second shot ?? Just as any other felon. Where is the line to be drawn ?
stokes
.338 Win Mag
I feel the idea of "losing your rights" is an inaccurate description.Before you commit a felony you should be aware that if you get convicted it will follow you for life.So you never really "serve your time" or "pay your debt to society" and "get your rights back"If you think at some point in your life you want to be a legal gun owner then you shouldnt commit a felony.Its just a part of the penalty for a felony conviction.If ya cant do the time...........
Joe Blow
.45 acp
Therein lies the slippery slope... A white collar class "E" felony for example versus a class "A" violent felony. There's no distinction in the system, it's a felony, period.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
I believe it's like drugs,you can't quit the habit. Convicted of a class E felony and one may see their mistake and try something different later that they believe won't get them caught...how many 2nd...3rd...4th offenders. None of US here carry without a permit because we know and respect the consequences. Other's break the law because they don't respect it. My 2 cents is Felons don't need guns.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
at white-collar crime or non-violent crime. Half the country would be in jail if they get their 1040 audited
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
stokes
.338 Win Mag
The line is drawn between misdemeanors and felonies.You choose to commit a felony,get caught and the consequences are clear.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
Isn't the law that felony conviction for a finacial industries crime (Wall Street) you can posses firearms?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
They should never be released and should do life in a metal hospital. Unless of course you believe they are cured.
Why is that?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Drugs are victimless crimes. Had they been legal, he wouldn't be a felon like in other countries. But here he is just like you would be if you put a thumbhole stock on your 10/22 but not in PA.
You see where I'm going with this? Very few people are actually in prison for rape and murder. The majority are in for drug possession, drug trafficking, and gun possession.
If you make those legal, the prisons would be empty.
PDR_AR15
9mm
I think there is an over use of the 'felony' level charges. Here is a good example from last Sunday. A person was pulled over for talking on his cell phone and ended up with a felony charge for having a fake State Inspection Sticker on his car. So somebody does not have enough money to get rid of their check engine light (I am guessing here) so they fake a sticker and it is a felony? And now they are on the felony list and banned from having a gun in their home? Who would have ever even thought that was a felony - I am sure he knew it was wrong but I doubt he thought he would be charged with a felony.
Felony crimes should be murder, assault, robbery, rape, child abuse, etc - things that you know are not acceptable in society, not something simple like this. Several states don't even have state vehicle inspections. But know he could be on the list...
Albany man accused of forging inspection sticker
Published 4:22 pm, Sunday, November 26, 2017 -- An Albany man is facing a felony after police said they found he forged a state inspection sticker.
State Police pulled XXXXXX, 53, over on Saturday for using his cell phone while driving near the Washington Avenue Extension, according to a news release. When a trooper reach his car, the trooper noticed XXXXXX's sticker appeared fake. Police did not describe what lead them to believe the sticker was fake.
XXXXXX was charged with criminal possession of a forged instrument as well as vehicle and traffic violations.
XXXXXX was arraigned in Cohoes city court and released pending a future court date.
Felony crimes should be murder, assault, robbery, rape, child abuse, etc - things that you know are not acceptable in society, not something simple like this. Several states don't even have state vehicle inspections. But know he could be on the list...
Albany man accused of forging inspection sticker
Published 4:22 pm, Sunday, November 26, 2017 -- An Albany man is facing a felony after police said they found he forged a state inspection sticker.
State Police pulled XXXXXX, 53, over on Saturday for using his cell phone while driving near the Washington Avenue Extension, according to a news release. When a trooper reach his car, the trooper noticed XXXXXX's sticker appeared fake. Police did not describe what lead them to believe the sticker was fake.
XXXXXX was charged with criminal possession of a forged instrument as well as vehicle and traffic violations.
XXXXXX was arraigned in Cohoes city court and released pending a future court date.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Maybe he didnt know it was a felony,but he knew it was against the law.Then the schmuck talks on his cell phone while driving and gives them a reason to catch him.I am sure he wont be convicted of a felony,but if stupidity was a felony..........
Joe Blow
.45 acp
Society of today is bad enough without every banger, cracker, and psycho having unfettered access to firearms. Now, if they all had their own special place (think of the movie Escape from New York) that'd be great. Let 'em go to town on each other. Should the above mentioned white collar felon of decades ago be able to get a shotgun to go hunting? I would say yes. But, there needs to be a line somewhere. Which always leads back around to that slippery slope...