Congress Using Supreme Court Decision For National Concealed Carry Reciprocity!!!
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Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
what is it now 25 States you shall not need a permission slip ..
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I don't know. I'm sure between truck stops @John Stark will gladly take a break from down shifting to chime in with a novella to tell all us mouth breathers what is really going on in the 2A world cause we too sta....sta....sta...stupid to know by ourselves.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I would be more interested if this was a lawsuit but a bill? DOA. Maybe in 2024 though.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
They should have introduced a bill weeks ago as "Travel safely for out of state abortion".
All I know is that it would be very nice to be able to carry during my family visits in NY on my PA permit.
never happen.. Even NY'ers with carry permits won't be able to 'carry" in NY on Sept 1... You can carry from your home to car, and then from your car to home.. Everywhere else in the entire state is a ""sensitive area"" and its a felony to carry a gun there without explicit [written?] permission... I will do NO business of consequence in NY any longer as I have a Pa. permit, and can still carry freely there... At least for the time being....
Awwwwww, already folks running scared!?
Thinking somehow or another the entire law enforcement community is going to be Hawking who's carrying and who's not... More big bad wolf stuff that never happens!
Even if the law isn't stayed by current legal challenges, nothing changes! Most of the law is unenforceable, period!
Now that doesn't eliminate the usual rule, to break only ONE law at a time, lmao! But if you're just carrying and get jammed up, on the merits of this law alone, there's not a day this century that you'd see the inside of a courtroom under that law that takes effect Sept 1! Never!!! The State would never allow a precedent to be established unfavorable to their agenda.
Stop worrying about ghosts, they don't exist!
Thinking somehow or another the entire law enforcement community is going to be Hawking who's carrying and who's not... More big bad wolf stuff that never happens!
Even if the law isn't stayed by current legal challenges, nothing changes! Most of the law is unenforceable, period!
Now that doesn't eliminate the usual rule, to break only ONE law at a time, lmao! But if you're just carrying and get jammed up, on the merits of this law alone, there's not a day this century that you'd see the inside of a courtroom under that law that takes effect Sept 1! Never!!! The State would never allow a precedent to be established unfavorable to their agenda.
Stop worrying about ghosts, they don't exist!
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Makes you wonder why they keep building glass houses.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I know a great many CC holders that will not be deterred by the posturing of Cunty Whorecul.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I read yesterday, that if you challenge CA on a gun law and lose, they make you pay all of the states legal fees. Maybe this is common elsewhere and I just never heard of it.
Now CA just passed a law allowing EVERY RESIDENT in the state to be able to sue anyone that manufactures and/or sells "ghost guns" and/or "ghost gun parts" in CA, for $10k!
New York is going to go all out after the next big incident here. Wouldn't be surprised if they start talking about confiscation soon.
I think between guns and abortions, if they push those two issues much further, it will divide the country enough to cause a war.
Instead of a national reciprocity bill, the republicans should just introduce a joint resolution that is an exact copy of the Bill Of Rights. Nothing more, nothing less. If they can't get it passed, the next one needs to be a Declaration of Independence.
Now CA just passed a law allowing EVERY RESIDENT in the state to be able to sue anyone that manufactures and/or sells "ghost guns" and/or "ghost gun parts" in CA, for $10k!
New York is going to go all out after the next big incident here. Wouldn't be surprised if they start talking about confiscation soon.
I think between guns and abortions, if they push those two issues much further, it will divide the country enough to cause a war.
Instead of a national reciprocity bill, the republicans should just introduce a joint resolution that is an exact copy of the Bill Of Rights. Nothing more, nothing less. If they can't get it passed, the next one needs to be a Declaration of Independence.
ManualF150
.308 Win
^^ Exactly.
I have already seen a huge divide in my local area from the 2A and the abortion rulings. It's like they primed folks with the whole mask and vaxx crap where that divided people.
It's all divide and conquer nonsense.
I've done my part and did my monetary notes to my favorite 2A supporters and I've called and sent letters to politicians. I've urged friends and coworkers that are pro-2A to do the same. Not much more I can do. At least I didn't sit on my laurels and didn't do anything like most do.
I have already seen a huge divide in my local area from the 2A and the abortion rulings. It's like they primed folks with the whole mask and vaxx crap where that divided people.
It's all divide and conquer nonsense.
I've done my part and did my monetary notes to my favorite 2A supporters and I've called and sent letters to politicians. I've urged friends and coworkers that are pro-2A to do the same. Not much more I can do. At least I didn't sit on my laurels and didn't do anything like most do.
They can talk all they want.
They can't afford to purchase any guns I may have.
And "just taking them" is not an option.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I won't be the only person on my property having a really bad day when they show up. 97% of people will probably give them up without much trouble, but I'm hopeful the remaining 3% will make some noise.
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
They call it concealed for a reason! Let the shit hit the fan if it ever needs to see daylight!
Double wall PVC tubing is going to be come real popular soon! Just sayin... Lmfao!
Knock knock...
Who's there?
(Add any LE acronym agency here)...
We're doing a friendly neighborhood firearm check.
Sorry, I don't have any!
But sir, we have you on record as possessing a dozen various firearms.
Sorry, canoeing accident 2 years ago in another state while white water rafting! All gone, I cried for weeks!
Come back later, I have to take a shit. And oh, don't forget your warrant next time! Have a nice day! Goodbye...
Hypothetical scenario of course... And I hate using those! But no matter, really, just fuck you very much! I'm seriously thinking about opening an account at a bank in another jurisdiction and securing a safe deposit box for my VALUABLES, lol. Some might have to be broken down to the smallest parts, haha. And then just keep my little Sig Carry, until I get outta here. Hahaha.
Not that I'd ever expect a knock at the door anyways.
But the Carolinas where I'm heading is very 2A friendly. Don't even need a non-resident!!! NY is off it's meds and having a sustained series of Linda Blair head spinning episodes! Wait until the State gets bitch slapped by its own (Judge) soon, hahahaha can't wait to see it ignore that too!
So when then does the Governor get forcibly removed from office? What will the Legislature do when it's executive is ignoring LAW? Again, fuck NY, just because!
As for the OP and National Reciprocity... Never happens. Not sure it could even after November! Fucking politicans are all empty suits. Talk the talk but never walk the walk! Is funny how the SCOTUS ruling notes to emulate the some 43 States that have Shall Issue to avoid complications. A simple guidance NY and Cal are thumbing their noses at!
So back to the same issue as always!
1. SCOTUS has NO teeth, NO Enforcement!
2. SCRUTINY SCRUTINY SCRUTINY!
Meaning even if a National Reciprocity Law was passed and signed, they'd continue to ignore or pass laws to obfuscate residents ability to exercise their 2A rights and defacto infringe upon them!
Lol...
Knock knock...
Who's there?
(Add any LE acronym agency here)...
We're doing a friendly neighborhood firearm check.
Sorry, I don't have any!
But sir, we have you on record as possessing a dozen various firearms.
Sorry, canoeing accident 2 years ago in another state while white water rafting! All gone, I cried for weeks!
Come back later, I have to take a shit. And oh, don't forget your warrant next time! Have a nice day! Goodbye...
Hypothetical scenario of course... And I hate using those! But no matter, really, just fuck you very much! I'm seriously thinking about opening an account at a bank in another jurisdiction and securing a safe deposit box for my VALUABLES, lol. Some might have to be broken down to the smallest parts, haha. And then just keep my little Sig Carry, until I get outta here. Hahaha.
Not that I'd ever expect a knock at the door anyways.
But the Carolinas where I'm heading is very 2A friendly. Don't even need a non-resident!!! NY is off it's meds and having a sustained series of Linda Blair head spinning episodes! Wait until the State gets bitch slapped by its own (Judge) soon, hahahaha can't wait to see it ignore that too!
So when then does the Governor get forcibly removed from office? What will the Legislature do when it's executive is ignoring LAW? Again, fuck NY, just because!
As for the OP and National Reciprocity... Never happens. Not sure it could even after November! Fucking politicans are all empty suits. Talk the talk but never walk the walk! Is funny how the SCOTUS ruling notes to emulate the some 43 States that have Shall Issue to avoid complications. A simple guidance NY and Cal are thumbing their noses at!
So back to the same issue as always!
1. SCOTUS has NO teeth, NO Enforcement!
2. SCRUTINY SCRUTINY SCRUTINY!
Meaning even if a National Reciprocity Law was passed and signed, they'd continue to ignore or pass laws to obfuscate residents ability to exercise their 2A rights and defacto infringe upon them!
Lol...
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
3 ..2 ...1 ... its 3am .. Gov Houcul Sign into law that NYS will no longer recognize out of state drivers licenses ..
The Carolinas ARE very 2A friendly, but it is not all as easy as you might think. When I moved to NC from NY, they readily allowed me to carry with my NY permit until I applied for and got my NC CHP (which only took 5 weeks, - not 8 months like it did in NY…) And my NC permit was accepted in SC.
But when I moved to SC recently, I had to give up my NC Driver’s License in order to apply for a SC CWP. There are only two ways to have a CWP in SC,- either live here or own land here. So, I turned in my NC Driver’s License and applied for and got an SC DL in order to be able to apply for an SC CWP. But since I no longer have an NC DL, and I am now living in SC,- I suspect my NC permit is no longer valid since NC doesn't issue to non residents.
I have taken the SC 8 hour CWP course (including live fire), and applied for my SC CWP. We’ll see how long it takes (supposedly 90 days or less). But until then, I likely cannot carry in SC. (I can still carry in NC under other state permits I have though.) There are some differences in state reciprocity as well: With SC instead of NC, I loose the ability to carry in NH, ME, PA, DE, WA, and CO. The only state I pick up is MN. (courtesy USACARRY.COM)
One of the big differences in the Carolina’s compared to NY is that as long as someone can pass a NICS check, they can purchase a long gun or handgun they want to keep at home without a concealed carry permit. Buy it, walk out with it, and take it home. Done.
I‘m not sure if you can open carry in both NC and SC ,or if you need to have a CC permit to do that as I would not open carry anyway.
But I can tell you this: a lot of people down here own guns! It’s kind of like when James Coburn as the Steamboat Captain in the movie Maverick said to James Garner: “What the Hell Coop,- everybody‘s got a gun!!!”
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