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Curious about LEO ammo
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We have to use any 9mm 147 gr JHP. I like that we have the option to choose which manufacturer. I prefer Gold Dots.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
This goes to show the difference between a short barrel and a long barrel. The Speer Gold Dots 147 gr did really well from a longer barrel but not so well from a shorter 3 inch CCW barrel. The moral of the story is.... Research your ammo. Many of us do not and end up carrying ammo that is underperforming when transferred over from a duty gun to a CCW gun.
3 inch barrel
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We are only authorized to carry the Glock 19 on duty and the 19 or 26 off duty. I choose to carry the 19 off duty and this is one of he big reasons why.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You know something, I've been considering getting a 19 barrel for my 26 for the extra velocity. It looks kind of weird but I'd get the compactness of the 26 while having the ballistics of the 19.
Here's a pic I found of someone who did just that.
They probably would. But, I'm not willing to risk my life on that.
Magazine and recoil springs wear. I probably shoot around 1500 rounds of 9mm a year. That's a decent amount of wear and tear on a spring. I want to be 100% confident that nothing has changed and everything will function flawlessly.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I only use certain magazines for the range. The carry magazines never get used except for about 30 rounds each to make sure they are reliable.
I'm thinking of going by the same approach with the recoil spring to keep things brand new for carry.
Snappo
6.5 Creedmoor
My backup (Colt Officer 1911) has been loaded since 1985. 30 years and the recoil spring never gave me a lick of problem. You can buy a few springs and throw them in a box with extra AK parts, etc. but I predict you will never need them. Only time it's unloaded is when I shoot it and I fill it back up 2 minutes later. 30+ years. It's a non issue Will - truly.
We are instructed what gun Block 22 Gen 4, as well as the ammo that we will carry. Federal HST 40 cal. We get issued ammo twice a year. At six months or so, we shoot off what we carry and load new.
Is every rd. issued counted and logged somewhere? I could use some.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I'm guessing court officer? It's odd that they use the 19 (I heard the brass chose the 9mm because they were told it's safer in confined spaces due to lower penetration) then they chose heavy for caliber bullets.
You are correct.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Maybe it's in my head, but I have noticed a slight increase in felt recoil from the day I first shot my G26 to now about 2 years and maybe 1500 rounds later.
It might in fact be the recoil spring loosening up.
It might in fact be the recoil spring loosening up.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I think this is the best ballistics testing I have ever seen:
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
Click a cartridge and it will give you all the info. Some of the new Ranger bonded stuff appears to be shit.
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
Click a cartridge and it will give you all the info. Some of the new Ranger bonded stuff appears to be shit.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I know a guy that has not changed his ammo in about 6 years. They should most likely issue some at each qualification session,
I change mine out once a year. We aren't issued ammo but when we qualify we shoot their ammo. It's on us to rotate it. I shoot mine off once or twice a year and then load up fresh ammo.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Most with a brain that take their job seriously do that. I told him to change it out already! He also bought the oldest technology cheap ammo in 147 rain he could find. The guy is a bit of a clown.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Good site but what barrel length did they use? A 3 inch barrel affects velocity. A good round on a duty sized pistol may do poorly from a 3 inch barrel with lower velocity.
For us, you'd have to go out of your way to NOT shoot the "old" ammo at each range session. The schedule they keep while you're there pretty much dictates that the ammo already in your firearm/mags, will be shot first.
Now, if you reload at home and plan ahead, there are ways to walk away with 3 free boxes of brand new ammo, but I don't know anything about that.
Now, if you reload at home and plan ahead, there are ways to walk away with 3 free boxes of brand new ammo, but I don't know anything about that.
I'm not going to say anything bad about anybody... But I take it very seriously.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I am! The guy say's I should probably buy some new ammo one of these years and laughs about it. I shoot with him at the range every few months. He's a friend and I tell him he's being a cheap dummy in person so I don't feel bad about posting it here.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
For us, you'd have to go out of your way to NOT shoot the "old" ammo at each range session. The schedule they keep while you're there pretty much dictates that the ammo already in your firearm/mags, will be shot first.
Now, if you reload at home and plan ahead, there are ways to walk away with 3 free boxes of brand new ammo, but I don't know anything about that.
Since that ammo is owned by the tax payers please send it to me so I can distribute it correctly.
Glock 19s have less pen than what? Glock 17s? Because someone thinks that .5" actually translates into the real world? I read an article complete with ballistics tests that showed minimal performance difference between 3.5" and 4.5" barrels with modern defensive ammo. Even 3 inch barrle don't give up much real world performance. Its irritating that issuing agencies will lend so much credence to such nonsense. But the Glock 19 is a fine sidearm so no harm no foul I guess.
Toecutter
.308 Win
I know a local cop in westchester this is what they carry on and off duty.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I agree that there will not be much difference from a 4 to 4.5 inch barrel but there is quite a bit of difference going down to a 3 inch barrel.
The Gold Dot test videos on the previous page of this thread say different. Some ammo is effected and some isn't.
HST's are one brand in all weights for 9mm that don't' get affected.
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I guess its the HST data I'm going off of. Its amazing how consistent that stuff is! Don't matter what caliber, don't matter how heavy or how fast, don't matter what the barrel is, if it stays HST on the box, buy it and call it good. Shoots nice n clean too.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Hornady Critical Duty is another one that is affected by barrel length. They failed to expand from the 3 inch barrel.
4 inch barrel
3 inch barrel
4 inch barrel
3 inch barrel
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I was told they chose the 19 becaus they wanted 9mm and thought it was a better choice for use indoors (court rooms ect). When the officers here were county they had issued glock 22's. When the state took over the courts they had to buy the 19. I was told the state thinking was the 9mm penetrated less and would be safer for use in court rooms (by standers ect). So they chose 9mm for that reason. Then they Let the officers go out and buy any 147 gr jhp. They could buy some garbage that clogs everytime and acts like a fmj. Does not really make sense to me.
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