BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Sweet...
Custom triangle handguards and other retro builds
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
The pieces are now JB welded. I could only really test fit one side at a time since I was only able to secure the end pieces with tape. The tension is just too much to struggle getting two in. Might have to file things down more but hopefully not.
I got the JB weld that sets in 6minutes and cure in 4 hours. My only concern with that is the temp rating. It says it rated for 300 degrees. I'm not sure what temp the barrel will get to with normal shooting.
Once this cures I'll go for a test fit with both pieces in. After that, I'll start adding either more JB or Bondo to the outside and begin sculpting the end to make it look factory.
Then it's working on cutting down the heat shields and re-installing them.
This is a pic from the one side test fit before I did some sanding and before gluing.
I got the JB weld that sets in 6minutes and cure in 4 hours. My only concern with that is the temp rating. It says it rated for 300 degrees. I'm not sure what temp the barrel will get to with normal shooting.
Once this cures I'll go for a test fit with both pieces in. After that, I'll start adding either more JB or Bondo to the outside and begin sculpting the end to make it look factory.
Then it's working on cutting down the heat shields and re-installing them.
This is a pic from the one side test fit before I did some sanding and before gluing.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Thanks! We'll see how it progresses. Definitely post your build if you end up attempting this as well.Thanks now I have to build another upper
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Just done with the second layer of JB for filling the gaps in the front of the guard. Tomorrow, I'll begin trimming and sanding it down to round it off. So far the plastic this guard is made of is pretty sandable so that will help with blending and round the filler. With any luck, it won't take many more layers of filler.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I couldn't help it. The handguards are not yet finished but I had to see what it all woukd look like. Which do you prefer??
Fixed magazine lower...
1.
2.
Imagine this one with a pistol grip. Honestly, I still like the way the fixed mag lower looks.
Bad news is, the handguards were real tough to get on. One of the heat shields ended up breaking loose when I put these on the upper.
Fixed magazine lower...
1.
2.
Imagine this one with a pistol grip. Honestly, I still like the way the fixed mag lower looks.
Bad news is, the handguards were real tough to get on. One of the heat shields ended up breaking loose when I put these on the upper.
You went through the trouble of making these, so I say it needs fixed mag with the grip and a2 stock to finish it. If your worried about clearing malfunctions with fixed mag, get a California compmag.
AR-15 CompMag.
AR-15 CompMag.
I think a fixed 20 round (limited to 10) would look extra sick.
Buttttt those handguards look good
Buttttt those handguards look good
I agree. These promag 10/20's are steel. They feed like shit, but if you install Magpul followers they are good to go.
ProMag AR-15 .223/5.56 10-round Blued Steel Magazine
fnfalguy
.308 Win
asthethically, the fixed mag is nicer. Practically, the second.
He has two. Can do one fixed mag, and one featureless.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Nearly there. Heat shields are fitted The ends have been sanded/wet sanded. One side came out better than the other. The one side ended up with some air pockets that came out with sanding. I did a quick fill of those, but they still seem to be visable. Hopefully they disappear with paint. Hoping to paint them today. It's windy as heck right now though...we'll see.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
$65!!??? Damn. I mean, I'll have to check those out more. I kind of feel that a lot of issues with a fixed mag possibly stem from people tightening the mag down too much. There needs to be some play in the mag. If you watch slow motion footage you can see the mag rocking back and forth as the gun cycles.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
'Twere me, I would swap the A2 stock onto the fixed mag lower.
Coming along nicely!
Coming along nicely!
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I though the sights are adjustable with standard issue ball ammo, stick and spin.
All in all its a pretty cool build Corgi!!!!! I'm with BD, standard stock and fixed mag, very cool!
Robin
All in all its a pretty cool build Corgi!!!!! I'm with BD, standard stock and fixed mag, very cool!
Robin
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Oh yeah, fixed mag, FUAC!
Robin
Robin
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
They are. It just seems it would be easier with the adjustment tool.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Just to nerd out here for a second (plus I actually had to look it up), what you kind of having going on here is somewhere between a Model 605 and a 607.
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Colt Model 605 carbine
The 605 was Colt's 1st "carbine" variant of the AR15/M16 line. Developed 64-65 it was listed in Colt's 1965 catalog as "CAR-15 carbine". It was basically a standard rifle w/the barrel shortened in front of the FSB to 15", all other parts are the same. There appear to be a number of variations...
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Colt Model 607
The 607 was Colt's 2nd "carbine" M16 after the 605 & was the first type to use a retractable type stock to shorten it's length. The 607 used a 10" barrel & the first type retractable stock, they were in Colt's catalog in 1965 listed as a sub-machine gun even though it fired the .223 rifle...
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
So cool! I need to find a shortened standard style buttstock like on the 607. That would be sweet. As it is now, I feel like the A2 stock just looks too big for the 16" bbl. It looks great on the 20" bbl, but I'm not really a fan on the 16". An abbreviated version of the stock, like the 607, and we are talking.Just to nerd out here for a second (plus I actually had to look it up), what you kind of having going on here is somewhere between a Model 605 and a 607.
Colt Model 605 carbine
The 605 was Colt's 1st "carbine" variant of the AR15/M16 line. Developed 64-65 it was listed in Colt's 1965 catalog as "CAR-15 carbine". It was basically a standard rifle w/the barrel shortened in front of the FSB to 15", all other parts are the same. There appear to be a number of variations...
Colt Model 607
The 607 was Colt's 2nd "carbine" M16 after the 605 & was the first type to use a retractable type stock to shorten it's length. The 607 used a 10" barrel & the first type retractable stock, they were in Colt's catalog in 1965 listed as a sub-machine gun even though it fired the .223 rifle...
BTW @BDinPutnam, did you say you had an A1 pistol grip (the style without the finger hump) laying around?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I may have found it?????? https://www.cavmfg.com/C1-Buttstock-C1.htm says it's 5/8" shorter...Maybe not as short as the 607?
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Well boyos.... Not perfect, but pretty damn good considering.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
And some more porn.
I'm gonna call this one a success. This rewards a beer.
I'm gonna call this one a success. This rewards a beer.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Beer? Okay!
Robin
Robin
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Nice, I like it! Featureless barrel almost approximates the old "Commando" flash hidey...
That C1 would probably work though I don't know how much shorter it would really make it since it's only 5/8" shorter than an A2. Pretty sure the 607 was shorter than that but I'm not sure what the measurement actually is (and it was the first of the collapsibles). I guess you could theoretically chop it more though you'd probably have to work from the shoulder end in to preserve the dimensions at the tube end... and I'm not sure what you would fill it with. Oh and you'd also have to be careful to preserve enough space for the full tube, of course.
I may be mistaken but I think the West Point museum has a 607 in it's collection; I know they have some very cool (and rare) variants from the series but I haven't been there in several years.
Either way, very cool build, man, just the way it is. It's kind of old school and video gamey all at once. I bet it would look awesome with a beta c drum mag. ETA I think there was something along those lines in Metal Gear Three. FUAC.
That C1 would probably work though I don't know how much shorter it would really make it since it's only 5/8" shorter than an A2. Pretty sure the 607 was shorter than that but I'm not sure what the measurement actually is (and it was the first of the collapsibles). I guess you could theoretically chop it more though you'd probably have to work from the shoulder end in to preserve the dimensions at the tube end... and I'm not sure what you would fill it with. Oh and you'd also have to be careful to preserve enough space for the full tube, of course.
I may be mistaken but I think the West Point museum has a 607 in it's collection; I know they have some very cool (and rare) variants from the series but I haven't been there in several years.
Either way, very cool build, man, just the way it is. It's kind of old school and video gamey all at once. I bet it would look awesome with a beta c drum mag. ETA I think there was something along those lines in Metal Gear Three. FUAC.
Beta C-Mag Mag System AR-15 223 Remington, 5.56x45mm 100-Round Drum
BetaCo's 100 round drums are the ultimate high capacity magazines. These magazines are made from tough polymer with steel and aluminum internals....
www.midwayusa.com
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Thanks man! I kind of like how it's a mix of old school and new. It jives on the fixed mag lower I have it pictured with, but I will also make the lower with the A2 stock on it a fixed mag as well so I can put an A1 grip on it. If I manage to find a shorter version of the A2 stock, I will go for that too. As far as that C7 stock goes it says its A1 length, so it isn't anywhere near as short as the 607.Nice, I like it! Featureless barrel almost approximates the old "Commando" flash hidey...
That C1 would probably work though I don't know how much shorter it would really make it since it's only 5/8" shorter than an A2. Pretty sure the 607 was shorter than that but I'm not sure what the measurement actually is (and it was the first of the collapsibles). I guess you could theoretically chop it more though you'd probably have to work from the shoulder end in to preserve the dimensions at the tube end... and I'm not sure what you would fill it with. Oh and you'd also have to be careful to preserve enough space for the full tube, of course.
I may be mistaken but I think the West Point museum has a 607 in it's collection; I know they have some very cool (and rare) variants from the series but I haven't been there in several years.
Either way, very cool build, man, just the way it is. It's kind of old school and video gamey all at once. I bet it would look awesome with a beta c drum mag. ETA I think there was something along those lines in Metal Gear Three. FUAC.
Beta C-Mag Mag System AR-15 223 Remington, 5.56x45mm 100-Round Drum
BetaCo's 100 round drums are the ultimate high capacity magazines. These magazines are made from tough polymer with steel and aluminum internals....www.midwayusa.com
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Didn't have to twist your arm, lol.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I'm hoping this thing cycles properly. I noticed when installing the gas tube, that the hole in the front sight base and gas tube overlapped some. Not much, but a smidge. I struggled trying to correct it, but that was just the way it wanted to be. Air still blew through it, so it should be fine. Or maybe they are all like that and I have just never noticed.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I.e. you might not have a big enough, lined up opening for enough gas to cycle thru the system?
I'll think you'll probably be ok unless the overlap is extreme. Could probably bore it out a little if there's a problem (preferably on the block itself I think, depending on where is causing the problem?)
And- thanks for sending me down the retro rabbit hole, geez... now you have me wanting to do something similar, I always wanted a XM177'ish clone.
I'll think you'll probably be ok unless the overlap is extreme. Could probably bore it out a little if there's a problem (preferably on the block itself I think, depending on where is causing the problem?)
And- thanks for sending me down the retro rabbit hole, geez... now you have me wanting to do something similar, I always wanted a XM177'ish clone.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
That's what corgi's do. They herd.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Forgot to tag you guys in this, but I have a Pro Mag 10/20 magazine with a Magpul follower installed. I installed it in the fixed mag lower.