speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
if only the non existent republicans could use this to their advantage! But unfortunately they wont, because they're spineless and have no teeth
Erie County Executive Accused of Gun Threats
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Steal2B
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AFAIR, everyone I met who I knew was a process server seemed to be a real arrogant asshole, so I may have an admitted bias.
Full disclosure: I view politicians, lawyers, used care salespeople, liberal arts professors, process servers, tax auditors, bureaucrats, call center workers (fund raising, auto warranty, poll takers, Nigerian Royaly, etc), whole life insurance sales people, much of the Healthcare Industry, anyone who wants me to adopt their religion, and door to door solar panel sales people as leeches on society.
spat
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Her mistake was thinking that just because using deadly force in that situation would be illegal means that "it can't be done".
She could easily be laying dead on the ground, where the knowledge that her killer would probably end up in jail is little consolation.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I'm no fan of Polonshart, just to be clear, however I am not shooting someone for just being present on my back porch. Prepared for escalation, yes. Blasting hollow points out the door, no.
True. But see my other points. The defendant was well known. Low risk for sure. He continuously cries for security outside his house so I doubt he even has a gun at all.
Also she advised his security detail that this would be happening. Sounds like she covered all bases.
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Either way, I want ALL of the laws the lefty's push on us to be exploited and used against poloncarz. I want to see him suffer misery that he tries to push on us.
Turn the tables on him for once and make his life hell.
I want to see him punished and to suffer.
Let them be on the wrong end of their own BS laws and policies.
Turn the tables on him for once and make his life hell.
I want to see him punished and to suffer.
Let them be on the wrong end of their own BS laws and policies.
Steal2B
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A fearful dog is a bite risk. If it was well known this jerk whined about being threatened at home and calling for more security, this process server may have knowingly took on added risk trying back windows and doors. Not a fan of either the server's or the served asshole's judgement that day.
May have / Could have. Sure.
A one legged trans hooker with pink hair could have been there too, giving it to Marky from behind. I'm not going down any rabbit holes here. Just discussing what did happen or what was alleged to have happened (in a sworn statement).
If this server never took any risks I don't think she would be getting much accomplished. It goes with the territory. Perhaps she should also not ever cross a street as a bus "may" run her over some day.
Let's try not to get carried away dreaming up scenarios. I'm going to stick by the accounts in the statement.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Seriously.
Let's not our mutual disgust of the asshole politician mask the point the process server helped incite the event in part by
Walking down the narrow shared easement
Entered the fenced back yard
Climbed up on the back porch to peek inside and and bang on door
She escalated the situation by this unexpected suprise imposition and I won't buy the story that she had no choice. She took the additional risk to save her time.
I have little doubt if a stranger showed up similarly on a porch of a fenced yard suprising many inside their home, that most would not be offering tea and cookies but could offer some colorful albeit different language.
I would be suprised if a DA would criminally charge a home owner for most similar verbal scenarios.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
As far as I know PI’s serve papers so we could both be right.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I don’t have a horse in this race, couldn’t help noticing the address on the house in your pictures is 1498, but the picture of the statement a bit further back said 1500.
Pedantic delivery guy nitpick, I notice house numbers.
Steal2B
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1498 and 1500 share an easement that the process server walked up. The house to the right is 1500. It was too narrow to show on views that show 1500.
I'm not married to any horse in the race either.
This is the other side of the 1500 house and she certainly did not trot through the brush, topple the blm get out of jail free sign, only to have to scale a stockade fence closing the back yard.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Seems like a big nothing-burger to me. Guy notices a person creeping round his back stair... I'd be spooked. Telling someone they're lucky they didn't get shot is not the same as saying I'm going to shoot you. If he has security guards on the property as has been suggested he could have meant one of them may have mistaken her for an intruder and shot her. He's a putz for sure, but from what I read in that article it doesn't sound like he actually made a threat.
Nice try. Read the sworn statement. You are making all kinds of assertions and letting your imagination tell the story.
There’s no indication of your “saving time” claim. In fact there is a documented record of repeated attempts to serve. This girl is a worker! It’s her job to serve the defendant and she accomplished that. Not sure why the hang up on time. Was it supposed to take her longer?
She walked down a driveway on Offical Court Business? Oh the horror!!
There is no account of her climbing up onto a deck or porch like your picture suggests. The sworn account simply states that the defendant was seen through a window after it was obvious that he was home doing laundry. There are also no accounts of entering a fenced in area. You are taking pictures you found online with no personal knowledge or context of and trying to paint a picture and create a series of events.
Nice story.
He made bith threats according to the complaint.
A you could get shot threat followed by a I’ll shoot you threat after she identified and stated her official business.
Not sure what you mean. I already said she is a PI and obviously she was serving papers
you suggested she wanted attention.
I said she works as a PI therefore would certainly NOT want the attention.
Steal2B
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During a thwarted home invasion, right after I yelled from a 2nd story window ... "Are you trying to get your asses shot off", I soon heard gunfire from one of the assholes. I don't recommend any talk of guns to someone who is lurking or breaking in to your home. Just saying.
This may be why I even posted in this thread.
Although it has no bearing on having to protect your family or self from serious injury or death by an intruder, secured back porches came up in subsequent insights on legal exposure from counsel about what can constitute inside your home in NYS.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Yep, I agree. It's like the ole "let them hear you rack the action of that 12 gauge loud and clear".
Nighttrain
.45 acp
This is the guy that is making decisions that affect your everyday lives, totally unhinged.
Polencarz wore out his welcome some time ago .
Polencarz wore out his welcome some time ago .
No, that's a PACZKI.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Don't forget lawyers.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
question .. will he loose his gun rights and his gun holding security team get a restraining order to stay 500 yards from him .. lol
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Yup, they were there just after politicians. Seemed appropriate seeing Shakespeare put it in Henry VI Part 2
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Saltwater60
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They wouldn’t bother to use it anyway.
They did just recently try to remove his emergency powers. The vote failed. Republicans are powerless to stop any of this in Erie Co and NYS.