For the First Time in My Life (possibility of having to use lethal force to defend my family and possibly my country)

[BerettaGuy]

For the First Time in My Life, I am mulling over the possibility of having to use lethal force to defend my family and possibly my country. Sure I was always prepared for a home invasion etc but now it can happen just driving to the drugstore. These children in a mob can appear anywhere and start demanding you salute BLM or start climbing on your vehicle. However, after seeing what District Attorneys are doing all over the country it quite frankly pisses me off and gives me pause. They are capitulating to the Marxist groups and charging people that do defend themselves with murder. It is easier to arrest you than control a mob. Now exploring Less than lethal alternatives like stun sticks cattle prods etc. All of which I'm sure are illegal in Cuomo's New York. So like NY saFE in the end when the anarchists at banging at the door what difference does it make? Either way, you are going to jail.

 

[libertysnake]

For the First Time in My Life, I am mulling over the possibility of having to use lethal force to defend my family and possibly my country. Sure I was always prepared for a home invasion etc but now it can happen just driving to the drugstore. These children in a mob can appear anywhere and start demanding you salute BLM or start climbing on your vehicle. However, after seeing what District Attorneys are doing all over the country it quite frankly pisses me off and gives me pause. They are capitulating to the Marxist groups and charging people that do defend themselves with murder. It is easier to arrest you than control a mob. Now exploring Less than lethal alternatives like stun sticks cattle prods etc. All of which I'm sure are illegal in Cuomo's New York. So like NY saFE in the end when the anarchists at banging at the door what difference does it make? Either way, you are going to jail.

It's only lethal if they choose to continue to break into the car. Otherwise, they just come out slightly crispy.

 

[kev74]

For the First Time in My Life, I am mulling over the possibility of having to use lethal force to defend my family and possibly my country. Sure I was always prepared for a home invasion etc but now it can happen just driving to the drugstore. These children in a mob can appear anywhere and start demanding you salute BLM or start climbing on your vehicle. However, after seeing what District Attorneys are doing all over the country it quite frankly pisses me off and gives me pause. They are capitulating to the Marxist groups and charging people that do defend themselves with murder. It is easier to arrest you than control a mob. Now exploring Less than lethal alternatives like stun sticks cattle prods etc. All of which I'm sure are illegal in Cuomo's New York. So like NY saFE in the end when the anarchists at banging at the door what difference does it make? Either way, you are going to jail.

The first step is mentally preparing yourself that you may need to take action. Congratulations!

Next step is realizing that if or when you have to take action, the scenario will likely be different than anything you may have considered or prepared for.

 

[Robin]

 

[Robin]

Electric Door Handles

Electric door handles, when activated, will send a jolt of electricity to anybody who tries to enter your armored vehicle.

www.armormax.com

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

You can't be charged with anything if you're dead.

 

[Cooolone]

Agreed, predisposition as to what an encounter will be, and the outcome, ie, children mobs and facing charges in the aftermath, won't help you at all, and quite possibly, could cause you problems.

Prepare for anything, expect nothing!

 

[MothMan]

Just finished watching the 2nd video in the ACDLN series with Assad Ayoob. Regarding the aftermath of a self defense shooting.

This is part of my preparation in case of the need to defend myself or family. Would recommend all be prepared physically, mentally and legally as possible.

Step one stop talking about what you might do on a gun forum.

 

[GOPerfect]

These are scary times indeed, shame we are even talking about it. Even with a really good understanding of our laws, one can still get jammed up hard.

MOST IMPORTANT////


If you get in a situation like one being spoke of; always ask to go to the hospital before a sit down with the Police.

After the hospital, lawyer up. Full lawyer up! Do not communicate at all with the Police

 

[meketrefe]

I always leave my truck open an nobody ever stole anything.
Toby comes with me everywhere, even for a quick run down to the pharmacy...

 

[Deplorable Me]

Good time to pre-select and have a few lawyers in mind as a worst case preparation. Have the lawyers in your contact list on your phone. Make sure information is mutually shared with your loved ones in case they get jammed up too. They might not be as up to speed or prepared as you. My wife is shocked as to some of the things I talk about, introduce necessary people gently.

 

[Celt]

when confronting a mob, its known that less lethal force can exacerbate the situation causing even more violent behavior from the rest of the mob.

 

[GOPerfect]

The best thing to do is try to avoid these situations.

That is becoming near impossible these days.

 

[Criticalt]

If your life is truly in danger, you will know and hopefully you do what is needed to protect yourself.
If you contemplate the outcome, you may not live.
Live first, then deal with the fallout.

 

[Doc8404]

W
T
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watch the video of the diners.


This video by the dude named josh.

Video: Protesters harass diners in Florida following Breonna Taylor decision in Kentucky | Blaze Media

'Stand up, fight back!'

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[Doc8404]

These are scary times indeed, shame we are even talking about it. Even with a really good understanding of our laws, one can still get jammed up hard.

MOST IMPORTANT////


If you get in a situation like one being spoke of; always ask to go to the hospital before a sit down with the Police.

After the hospital, lawyer up. Full lawyer up! Do not communicate at all with the Police

Agreed. My wife knows to call the ACDL ASAP

 

[Chevusa]

The best thing to do is try to avoid these situations.

That is becoming near impossible these days.

Often the situation finds you.

 

[Chevusa]

If your life is truly in danger, you will know and hopefully you do what is needed to protect yourself.
If you contemplate the outcome, you may not live.
Live first, then deal with the fallout.

Remember, in NY you have a duty to retreat. I know of no better way to retreat than to hit the gas!

 

[Doc8404]

Can’t retreat when surrounded and on foot.

 

[Blimey]

You can't be charged with anything if you're dead.

Wish it was true, but millions of people think you should pay money because of what some white guys did a couple centuries ago, so they are charged but you pay the penalty.

 

[Blimey]

W
T
F

watch the video of the diners.


This video by the dude named josh.

Video: Protesters harass diners in Florida following Breonna Taylor decision in Kentucky | Blaze Media

'Stand up, fight back!'

www.theblaze.com

U.S. | Fox News

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nonononononono niononono

These idiots. When that guy sat down at their table they should immediately say f it I'm out. Saying it's her table and lifting the chair? Avoid at all costs. These people cannot be reasoned with. Never engage in dialogue, they are not there to debate, but to tell. Call the restaurant later for the bill, unless it does what the rochester restaurants did and pretend like it's perfectly okay. Then the restaurant can eat it by condoning the lack of security.

 

[Doc8404]

nonononononono niononono

These idiots. When that guy sat down at their table they should immediately say f it I'm out. Saying it's her table and lifting the chair? Avoid at all costs. These people cannot be reasoned with. Never engage in dialogue, they are not there to debate, but to tell. Call the restaurant later for the bill, unless it does what the rochester restaurants did and pretend like it's perfectly okay. Then the restaurant can eat it by condoning the lack of security.

amen. I would walk out without the bill.

 

[spat]

If your life is truly in danger, you will know and hopefully you do what is needed to protect yourself.
If you contemplate the outcome, you may not live.
Live first, then deal with the fallout.

It's unlikely most people will truly recognize that their life is in danger until it's too late.

 

[dwa12479]

I'd be up and outta there in a flash. Theres no reasoning with these scumbags. Why would you want to try and fight to keep that table? The mob ain't going away anytime soon, get gone. Now.

 

[Celt]

amen. I would walk out without the bill.

free dinner, as long as the scumbags arrived after you ate.

 

[BuffNiag]

Walk away. It's the only logical thing to do. These people are digging their own grave anyway.

 

[MothMan]

These are scary times indeed, shame we are even talking about it. Even with a really good understanding of our laws, one can still get jammed up hard.

MOST IMPORTANT////


If you get in a situation like one being spoke of; always ask to go to the hospital before a sit down with the Police.

After the hospital, lawyer up. Full lawyer up! Do not communicate at all with the Police

Ayoob speaks of 5 things to say to LEO.

REASON: eg. He attacked me with a baseball bat.

SIGN COMPLAINT: eg. I will sign a complaint. ( even if thug is lying in a pool of their own blood)

EVIDENCE: eg. Officer there are shell casing here and there.

WITNESS: eg. Officer those people over there saw what happened.

SILENCE: eg. Officer I will cooperate with you once I have spoken to counsel.

His reasoning for saying these things is have your side of the story to be heard.

Would you disagree?

All situations vary.

 

[redtail]

The guy with the commie bugle is a hoot.

 

[MothMan]

@GOPerfect, I understand adrenaline would be ruling and you suggestion to request medical assistance would allow time for the rush to dissipate. Have heard minimum 24hrs to come down up to 72hrs before consenting you interview.

Still giving some of your side of the story seems important also.
72 hours of no input leaves others to develop story.

 

[SonOfSun]

@GOPerfect, I understand adrenaline would be ruling and you suggestion to request medical assistance would allow time for the rush to dissipate. Have heard minimum 24hrs to come down up to 72hrs before consenting you interview.

Still giving some of your side of the story seems important also.
72 hours of no input leaves others to develop story.

How to handle interactions with police (non-traffic):
1. Ask if you are free to go. If yes, just leave. Interview is now over. If they ask you to come in for an interview say no.
2. If you are not free to leave. Specifically invoke the 5th, not be silent, specifically invoke it. After that invoke the 6th, request your attorney. If you are detained the only things out of your mouth should be, "I want my lawyer" and "I invoke the 5th amendment and will not answer any questions".

Never consent to an interview. There is plenty of time to tell the story in court if it even reaches that point. There are plenty of truly innocent people in jail because of shit they said to police.