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Most ABC agencies know EVERY SINGLE firearm you own..registered or not. Unless you bought it off the street from the cartel, you be dreaming if you think they "DON'T know about the AR you did not register " registering just put you unto a special different ledger.o_O
 
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My question is, if they "know" every pistol you own, why the need for a recertification?

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Willjr75 said:
This shows a few things for me.

One it shows that they have no clue about firearms in general. They have no clue that rifles and pistols that are so called AW's come in the same caliber.

It also shows that just registering AW's isn't the end game. They want them gone so they'll confiscate in steps so as not to create panic at first. You can keep them just register. You keep them just limit the ammo. You can keep them just pay a yearly fee. You can keep them just pay the raised yearly fee.

If this goes through, it will not be the end. There will be more chipping until you willingly get rid of it.
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Darth said:
My question is, if they "know" every pistol you own, why the need for a recertification?

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4excal said:
Most ABC agencies know EVERY SINGLE firearm you own..registered or not. Unless you bought it off the street from the cartel, you be dreaming if you think they "DON'T know about the AR you did not register " registering just put you unto a special different ledger.o_O
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They know what type you bought but not what. The NICS just say long gun, pistol, or other. It doesn't say the make, model, and serial.
 
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Willjr75 said:
That stays with the FFL until he closes shop.... No?
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No?

And regardless, the question of "if it is trackable" goes out the window then. I don't care if it's at the FFL, the ATF, in your safe, etc.
 
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Rondo223 said:
Yes but where does it say that you cant own .223 ammunition? I mean .223 is a popular hunting and sporting cartridge so no problem there.

In reality this is legislation for the point of making legislation. The only way to possibly enforce this is if a person has only registered assault weapons in the caliber possessed and no other weapons capable of using that ammo. I mean who on here does that apply to?
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I'd go further and add it only applies if your registered "assault weapon" is the only weapon you own in that caliber, and you know no else with any guns, and you have made a sworn statement in front of a notary that you will never buy another gun. Complete and utter unenforceable bullshit, from a bunch of pricks that just like to hear themselves speak.

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spat said:
Or the ATF decides to come in and copy all those records and stash them in a file cabinet somewhere.

I wonder what % of FFLs have never had that happen ?
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That's just funny. I'm assuming you have never seen the stored 4473's for a large ffl because most havent. An ffl is required to store 4473's for 20 years, or until they close. For a big box stores moving hundreds or thousands of guns a week, this adds up to storage rooms full of records. I couldn't even begin to imagine the man hours it would take for the atf to go and sort through one ffl's records, let every ffl in the country.

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pmcjuryny said:
That's just funny. I'm assuming you have never seen the stored 4473's for a large ffl because most havent. An ffl is required to store 4473's for 20 years, or until they close. For a big box stores moving hundreds or thousands of guns a week, this adds up to storage rooms full of records. I couldn't even begin to imagine the man hours it would take for the atf to go and sort through one ffl's records, let every ffl in the country.

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I would be shocked if the ATF didn't have a full copy from every one the big box stores that was at most a couple months out of date. As you said, its a lot of records, but its also a lot of traces.
 
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spat said:
I would be shocked if the ATF didn't have a full copy from every one the big box stores that was at most a couple months out of date. As you said, its a lot of records, but its also a lot of traces.
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No, I can attest it isn't the case. I worked for a big box dealer, and the atf doesn't just come in and say let's see all your 4473's. They come in and ask for either a specific persons records, or the records for a specific gun, they don't just sit down and start to wholesale copy down 4473 data

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No?

And regardless, the question of "if it is trackable" goes out the window then. I don't care if it's at the FFL, the ATF, in your safe, etc.
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What if you made it yourself? 80% (yes I know that's not an official term) etc. ? I wouldn't be surprized if they've been spying on sites selling uppers and non gun items.
 
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