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The 80s had the best movies.Classic flic
That was never written in the law. Here we go with more legal tricksI would really like to see a plaintiff sue NYS over the unequal permit systems across the state. I’m no lawyer but this seems like a no brainer to sue on the basis of denial of equal rights or something similar. Our permits upstate never expire but NYC / Nassau / Suffolk county permits do??? NYC permit holders can carry across the entire state, but those of us with upstate permits cannot?
There's no such thing as a lifetime license in NY anymore, and the training and social media is still in effect for the first renewal after the law takes effect.Important takeaway: They just relieved all lifetime (non-expiring) license holders of the training, social media and interview requirements. That is a win already for most upstate licensees. Now it is just down to the sensitive locations.
Because Plaintiff Antonyuk’s License Does Not Expire, He Will Never Be
Subject To The Interview, Social Media Disclosure, or Training
Requirements He Is Challenging
My opinion? They damn well intended to have EVERYONE subject to the above, and this is a form of backpedaling.
That's not true, though. SAFE made all permits a 5 year permit and removed the no expiration portion.I would really like to see a plaintiff sue NYS over the unequal permit systems across the state. I’m no lawyer but this seems like a no brainer to sue on the basis of denial of equal rights or something similar. Our permits upstate never expire but NYC / Nassau / Suffolk county permits do??? NYC permit holders can carry across the entire state, but those of us with upstate permits cannot?
So how do we handle things going forward, as NYS in their reply to this lawsuit has claimed that our permits upstate NEVER expire, and that existing CCW holders are not subject to the 18 hours training and live fire, the social media checks, etc.?That's not true, though. SAFE made all permits a 5 year permit and removed the no expiration portion.
Odd, isn't it? It sounds like the state doesn't even know its own laws.So how do we handle things going forward, as NYS in their reply to this lawsuit has claimed that our permits upstate NEVER expire, and that existing CCW holders are not subject to the 18 hours training and live fire, the social media checks, etc.?
Odd isn’t the word I would use but ..yea. To be honest her response is begging for a legal bitch slap. The lack of intellect behind the states response is telling.Odd, isn't it? It sounds like the state doesn't even know its own laws.
Most definitely. The "odd" came with a heavy dose of sarcasm.Odd isn’t the word I would use but ..yea. To be honest her response is begging for a legal bitch slap. The lack of intellect behind the states response is telling.
As a Schenectady County permit holder, Plaintiff Antonyuk will never have to renew his license, so he will never be subject to the interview, reference, social media disclosure, or training requirements. Even if he were, he has not applied for a license under the CCIA yet, which is a prerequisite to standing, and he has not shown any injury-in-fact, which requires both concrete allegations of an intent to violate the law and a credible threat of prosecution.
So how do we handle things going forward, as NYS in their reply to this lawsuit has claimed that our permits upstate NEVER expire, and that existing CCW holders are not subject to the 18 hours training and live fire, the social media checks, etc.?
...and in completely unrelated Knews:
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's case in Virginia fighting universal background checks, the Virginia Attorney General claims the government can "requir[e] the registration of all guns," and then cites historical context from 1631—160 years before the United States even existed.
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No offense but even that wouldn't be a legitimate argument as it's post 1868was not a State back then .. territories are not included
Virginia Attorney General .. blowing smoke wasting $$$ they are going to loose
PS Virginia Attorney General may wanna try using wounded knee also for his gun control .. only certain types of people can have guns ..
that was around 1890 i think
No offense but even that wouldn't be a legitimate argument as it's post 1868
Where is Paul Revere when you need him yelling: "The British are coming!"...All I see is the British did this so we can as well. Isn’t there a reason we are independent from the British now?
We’re right here and we’ve been warning of all this stuff for years now.Where is Paul Revere when you need him yelling: "The British are coming!"...
We’re right here and we’ve been warning of all this stuff for years now.Where is Paul Revere when you need him yelling: "The British are coming!"...
How many freaking times do I have to say it?Where is Paul Revere when you need him yelling: "The British are coming!"...
This largely means nothing. This is covered under other suits and other defendants. I’m glad he had the balls to say it though.SHOCKING ADMISSION: NY 2A Defendant Admits to US Federal Appeals Court that New Gun Law Violates 2A
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will be hearing oral argument in 5 pending Second Amendment cases on March 20, 2023. As part of these cases, 2A challenges have been brought against New York State’s ban on firearms in places of worship such as churches and synagogues. The District Attorney for the County of Niagara was sued to enjoin his office from enforcing the law banning guns in places of worship and today he filed a legal brief in the Court of Appeals conceding that the NY law was unconstitutional under the Second Amendment and NYSRPA v. Bruen. Mark Smith breaks it down.
Where is Paul Revere when you need him yelling: "The British are coming!"...
How many freaking times do I have to say it?