It is not going to happen because the Country is full of cowards and people NOT willing to step up.
If it happens, I have no clue who or who may not stop it.
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It is not going to happen because the Country is full of cowards and people NOT willing to step up.
If it happens, I have no clue who or who may not stop it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Serious question. Do you understand when the country becomes tyrannical and the courts corrupt that it must be abolished?
Yep, I believe we are very close to that right now. I have been saying this for a few years. I do not believe there are enough people that are willing to step up to abolish what we have.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
A court of course. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying a black eye. I'm saying torture.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And why do you think that is the case. Who is there to stop those people?
Come on now. Enough with the bullshit already and the sidestepping. You know what I say has merit but don't want to admit it. Be strong. You can do it.
Nobody said "get rid of."
You said nobody except the highest court gets to decide. That's not true.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
GP. You really seem like a decent guy. You aren't like that other idiot. My gut tells me that you do not like what's going on. It isn't quite there for you yet with 2A violations. But what happens when it gets out of control for you. You already see it happening with the Libs and all the LGBT, illegal immigration bringing in terrorists nonsense.
What happens when the LGBT nonsense goes far beyond what you think is total catastrophe? If they start forcing ACS to take 8 year old kids away from families for not letting them get sex changes, and a corrupt court rules in favor of the state and kid, will that be enough? It sounds far fetched but look at what's happening now compared to 20 years ago. What's happening now is far fetched. What happens when people from with terroristic ties like Huma Abedin get appointed to the court and take over?
Will something like that make you think it's time to take back the government? Or should we just accept it because the court is the court and that's how it works? Follow the law if you don't want to go to jail.
If that's what it took, who are you going to be fighting against? Politicians with guns or guys in blue? The truth is truth no matter what that idiot says. If he thinks telling the truth is cop hating, it's only to make himself feel better about himself.
I know deep down you know the truth and many others reading this do too but don't want to comment out of fear of being labeled a cop hater or having a spook look into them.
What happens when the LGBT nonsense goes far beyond what you think is total catastrophe? If they start forcing ACS to take 8 year old kids away from families for not letting them get sex changes, and a corrupt court rules in favor of the state and kid, will that be enough? It sounds far fetched but look at what's happening now compared to 20 years ago. What's happening now is far fetched. What happens when people from with terroristic ties like Huma Abedin get appointed to the court and take over?
Will something like that make you think it's time to take back the government? Or should we just accept it because the court is the court and that's how it works? Follow the law if you don't want to go to jail.
If that's what it took, who are you going to be fighting against? Politicians with guns or guys in blue? The truth is truth no matter what that idiot says. If he thinks telling the truth is cop hating, it's only to make himself feel better about himself.
I know deep down you know the truth and many others reading this do too but don't want to comment out of fear of being labeled a cop hater or having a spook look into them.
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This has nothing to do with you being a cop hater. Don't care. I am saying that until the people rise up...WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, The Courts are about the only entity that will make law un-Constitutional.
I asked earlier about cruel and unusual punishment, it is up to the courts to decide what falls into that category. Not the individual, which is good, because what I view as cruel, I promise you, is not what you view as cruel.
I asked earlier about cruel and unusual punishment, it is up to the courts to decide what falls into that category. Not the individual, which is good, because what I view as cruel, I promise you, is not what you view as cruel.
I didn’t say anything about what happens after. I am referring to enforcing laws on the books against legitimatey bad people (which do exist by golly gee).
You can take that to the extreme if you want, add in nuclear bombs, just go for it! But reality is I’m speaking about putting charges against bad people. Charges that are on paper, have passed the courts numerous times, and likely always will.
I. Don’t. Sympathize. With. Perps.
Clear enough?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. Clear. The Constitution doesn't apply to someone who breaks another law in your book. That is by definition breaking an oath. Got it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I guess you don't want to answer my question on who you be fighting and instead focus on cruel and unusual punishment and what you view as cruel. Got it. Okay.
I did answer the question. I do not know who I would be fighting. I guess those that do not agree to my fight.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I see you are still dancing around it. Okay. You'll be fighting guys in red shirts and pussy hats instead of those that protect the politicians. If that's what you believe, than so be it. I'm done here. It's impossible to man up and answer a question around here.
It is very difficult to answer a question filled with so many unknowns. Nearly all that I work with have the same thoughts and feelings that I do, so they will not be the enemy.
Is that what you are getting at? If all hell breaks loose, my enemy will be anyone that stands against me. I do not care what suit of cloths they wear or who they represent.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I just want you to admit that it's going to be cops with families. It isn't going to be armed politicians or LGBT Antifa kids, or some other generic enemy that wears a red or purple uniform that'll put their lives on the line to protect people like Hillary, Sotomayor, Ginsberg, ect.
It's going to be cops and secret service with families. That's why nobody has done it or isn't going to do it. It has nothing to do with balls or the will of the American people. Until people can admit that, they can't go forward. And every time I hear someone say that the trees of liberty shall weep blood or some other nonsense quote, I just roll my eyes. They don't know who the enemy is. They are ignorant. The enemy is those that enforce those unconstitutional laws and those that defend those that pass those unconstitutional laws. Those that say the law is the law and you should obey it until a court says otherwise knowing that the court is compromised are no better.
That's the stark truth whether you want to admit it or not no matter how chilling it is which is why it will never happen. You nor I are willing to do that. So all we could do is sit down and take it. Until the boys in blue step aside, it'll never happen. They are the only ones letting this happen.
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ECU Pirates
.308 Win
I don’t know about that. Those with unregistered safe act violations overlook the law daily!
Not to sure about that. If all hell breaks loose, are you going to go and drive the train? Or you gonna stay home and protect what is yours?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't understand the question.
Which part? My point is, all breaks loose in the US of A, most people are staying home to protect what is really important!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And what's all hell breaking loose? Be specific.
And I’ll be shooting with some thursday, like I always do. In my own precinct no less. We take care of our own, not haters.
Now you're just being a dick!
You know I work tomorrow and can't shoot mine as well!
I meant shooting with people like ECU described.
spat
.950 JDJ
Nope, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional from the minute it is conceived.
The mere idea of infringing on the RKBA is unconstitutional, before pen is even put to paper to draft the bill that may eventually become law.
spat
.950 JDJ
We understand quite well how they *do* work.
Do you understand that doesn't make it right ?
Was it not unconstitutional when the Japanese-Americans were rounded up and herded into camps during WWII ? No court ever said it was.
Or is it perfectly acceptable because their case never got to SCOTUS ?
You are saying that they way thing work now with corrupt judges ruling based on personal preference not law is right, and we are saying, no it isn't.
I don't know about that.Even in Vermont if you get caught with a loaded rifle in your car they arrest you for violating their game laws.You can carry a loaded pistol anywhere in the car with no hassle.Even those new 14 inch non shotguns are allowed loaded in your car.
