Gun Manufacturer liability bill

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That_FNG said:
Idk about rifles and shotguns but pistol sales wouldn’t be affected here in NY. NYS personally signs off on every pistol sales when they allow it to be added to your permit. A gun store can sell you as many pistols as you want, and you can buy as many pistols as you want, but you can’t take physical possession of each pistol until NYS gives their blessing and adds it to your pistol. If a gun store was to sell someone a pistol and later that person used it in the commission of a crime, all the gun store has to do is point the blame at NYS and say “we didn’t allow them to have that pistol until NYS in writing said it was ok for then to have it, thus NYS has the blame for allowing such a bad person to have that pistol”
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the same for BATF .. NFA items . Tax stamp ??
 
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That_FNG said:
Idk about rifles and shotguns but pistol sales wouldn’t be affected here in NY. NYS personally signs off on every pistol sales when they allow it to be added to your permit. A gun store can sell you as many pistols as you want, and you can buy as many pistols as you want, but you can’t take physical possession of each pistol until NYS gives their blessing and adds it to your pistol. If a gun store was to sell someone a pistol and later that person used it in the commission of a crime, all the gun store has to do is point the blame at NYS and say “we didn’t allow them to have that pistol until NYS in writing said it was ok for then to have it, thus NYS has the blame for allowing such a bad person to have that pistol”
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How funny would it be if NYS gets sued up the ass for violence committed with a gun?
 
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ArmedCorgi said:
How funny would it be if NYS gets sued up the ass for violence committed with a gun?
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My thoughts as well. Since NYS has the final say, the onus of responsibility would be on them. Would be hysterical if they did pass this law and then nys and the politicians were held responsible under it and got sued into oblivion.
 
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That_FNG said:
My thoughts as well. Since NYS has the final say, the onus of responsibility would be on them. Would be hysterical if they did pass this law and then nys and the politicians were held responsible under it and got sued into oblivion.
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They’ll just claim ..
 
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That_FNG said:
My thoughts as well. Since NYS has the final say, the onus of responsibility would be on them. Would be hysterical if they did pass this law and then nys and the politicians were held responsible under it and got sued into oblivion.
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Of course they will exempt themselves from any liability. They already have blanket protection.
 
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Dr. Evil said:
About 10 people a day die from drowning in swimming pools. Time to go after those companies that fill pools with water.
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The pool chemical companies
The Tile companies
The filter companies
Lawn chair companies
Pool toy makers
The list goes on and on
 
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Apologies in advance for linking to the fake news network...

www.cnn.com

New York lawmakers move to open the gun industry to liability lawsuits | CNN

New York State lawmakers passed a bill Tuesday that allows for civil lawsuits against gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers for how they market and sell firearms.
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If this passes, there probably won't be many gun stores left in NY. In the meantime, thus will drive up gun sales even more.
 
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Apologies in advance for linking to the fake news network...

www.cnn.com

New York lawmakers move to open the gun industry to liability lawsuits
New York State lawmakers passed a bill Tuesday that allows for civil lawsuits against gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers for how they market and sell firearms.
www.cnn.com
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If this passes, there probably won't be many gun stores left in NY. In the meantime, thus will drive up gun sales even more.
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FUAC Killed more then guns did .. FACT!! ...
 
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A-6762B/S-7196, Relates to the dangers to the safety and health of the public caused by the sale, manufacturing, importing and marketing of firearms and whether such activity constitutes a public nuisance, has been sent to the Governor. He will likely sign it at a closed press event this afternoon.
 
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A-6762B/S-7196, Relates to the dangers to the safety and health of the public caused by the sale, manufacturing, importing and marketing of firearms and whether such activity constitutes a public nuisance, has been sent to the Governor. He will likely sign it at a closed press event this afternoon.
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So, what are they recommending they do about this "nuisance?"
 
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ek1 said:
Apologies in advance for linking to the fake news network...

www.cnn.com

New York lawmakers move to open the gun industry to liability lawsuits | CNN

New York State lawmakers passed a bill Tuesday that allows for civil lawsuits against gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers for how they market and sell firearms.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

If this passes, there probably won't be many gun stores left in NY. In the meantime, thus will drive up gun sales even more.
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After nearly 30 years as an FFL I will probably NOT be renewing my state dealers license when it expires at the end of the year. All because of this bill.
A $20 transfer or a few cents made off the sale of a box of ammo are simply not worth the associated no-end date liability to myself because of this legislation.
 
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tc556guy said:
After nearly 30 years as an FFL I will probably NOT be renewing my state dealers license when it expires at the end of the year. All because of this bill.
A $20 transfer or a few cents made off the sale of a box of ammo are simply not worth the associated no-end date liability to myself because of this legislation.
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So they won.
 
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tc556guy said:
After nearly 30 years as an FFL I will probably NOT be renewing my state dealers license when it expires at the end of the year. All because of this bill.
A $20 transfer or a few cents made off the sale of a box of ammo are simply not worth the associated no-end date liability to myself because of this legislation.
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most will
 
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Maybe so. But there has been a steady decline in FFLs in my county. When I was a kid you could buy guns at Woolworths, Fays, Kmart, a couple of small shops around the county. You could go up to Ithaca Gun on the hill and order anything in their product line in just about any configuration you wanted, not just what was in the catalogue.
When I was a new FFL there were still literally a dozen small tabletop guys like me around the county. Now I'm it, other than one or two 07 FFLs. And from the increase in regulars who drive from surrounding counties, I don't think there is a great flood of people putting out their FFL shingle
I still haven't made up my mind on the timeline; it might not be until the actual FFL is up for renewal in '23...but this bill is really making me think that sooner is better than later.
Maybe someone will step up to fill the void, but in the era of a Biden ATF I don't see them making it any easier for new FFLs either....
 
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tc556guy said:
Maybe so. But there has been a steady decline in FFLs in my county. When I was a kid you could buy guns at Woolworths, Fays, Kmart, a couple of small shops around the county. You could go up to Ithaca Gun on the hill and order anything in their product line in just about any configuration you wanted, not just what was in the catalogue.
When I was a new FFL there were still literally a dozen small tabletop guys like me around the county. Now I'm it, other than one or two 07 FFLs. And from the increase in regulars who drive from surrounding counties, I don't think there is a great flood of people putting out their FFL shingle
I still haven't made up my mind on the timeline; it might not be until the actual FFL is up for renewal in '23...but this bill is really making me think that sooner is better than later.
Maybe someone will step up to fill the void, but in the era of a Biden ATF I don't see them making it any easier for new FFLs either....
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I do t blame you one bit. It sucks but I would make the same choice. One lawsuit could ruin you and take all your belongings. I’m guessing this is a part time job and not your main gravy train. One lawsuit could cost you $100,000’s of dollars to defend. I think almost all others will follow your lead. That’s it, it’s over. No more gun sales in NYS.
 
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gunpoliticsny said:
I guarantee there's going to be a lawsuit really soon and it will go all the way to SCOTUS.
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One would hope. How could it NOT end up at SCOTUS at this point? That dumb, useless AG talks about the feds usurping state's rights but NOWHERE does it talk about the individual's rights. It's not about NY'ers. It's about the NY gov't asserting it's authority upon the world. Cuomo would have made a better Hitler than Hitler.
 
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EVERYBODY gets a bite of this shit sandwich:
23 4. "Gun industry member" shall mean a person, firm, corporation,
24 company, partnership, society, joint stock company or any other entity
25 or association engaged in the sale, manufacturing, distribution, import-
26 ing or marketing of firearms, ammunition, ammunition magazines, and
27 firearms accessories.
 
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