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[carpediem]

You know that number is a sex addiction joke hotline, right? I figured many of us here already had it on speed dial.

Yeah, however, the real number is 867-5309.

 

[Steal2B]

Yeah, however, the real number is 867-5309.

Lol. Been looking for Jenny. What area code?

 

[Dr. Evil]

You know that number is a sex addiction joke hotline, right? I figured many of us here already had it on speed dial.

Figured it was something in that realm. Reminded me of when Stern was on K-Rock and would call a gay theater in CA to listen to their recorded listing of the movies playing with story line included. It was called the Bijou. The voice on the recording was the quintessential voice one would expect. The Notorious Bijou Voicemail & The Bitter Rivalry of Howard Stern and Steve Dahl Video halfway down.

 

[carpediem]

Lol. Been looking for Jenny. What area code?

518

 

[Twogunwilly]

 

[MikeyCNY]

You know that number is a sex addiction joke hotline, right? I figured many of us here already had it on speed dial.

I'm not addicted, I can quit anytime I want.

 

[MuttCat]

Fool me once....

 

[Shadow rider]

 

[Jordi Rubio]

You do realize that Mahatma Gandhi, the most renown pacifist, said if there is a choice between cowardice and violence, always choose violence? Even he realized a gun in the hands of good men is the only way to stop evil.

Thanks for the reference, I had no idea about those texts from Gandhi. But I second your words, I do believe that guns in the hands of the good man are the only way to stop evil. It's just that I don't think that those are everybody's hands.

 

[Phazer]

Yeah, however, the real number is 867-5309.

Ahhh....feeling old now....Tommy Tutone (1981).

 

[Phazer]

Thanks for the reference, I had no idea about those texts from Gandhi. But I second your words, I do believe that guns in the hands of the good man are the only way to stop evil. It's just that I don't think that those are everybody's hands.

Well, they certainly are not the government's hands. Organized, especially totalitarian, governments were the agents of the most civilian deaths in the 20th century.

Please remember, American ideals were exemplified in our Declaration of Independence which includes the following:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ​

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Well, they certainly are not the government's hands. Organized, especially totalitarian, governments were the agents of the most civilian deaths in the 20th century.

Please remember, American ideals were exemplified in our Declaration of Independence which includes the following:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ​

Thanks Phazer, that was really instructive.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Thanks for the reference, I had no idea about those texts from Gandhi. But I second your words, I do believe that guns in the hands of the good man are the only way to stop evil. It's just that I don't think that those are everybody's hands.

Of course not everybody's hands are "good." I agree. Everyone though that IS good (not evil) who chooses to arm themselves should be able to.

 

[Jordi Rubio]

Of course not everybody's hands are "good." I agree. Everyone though that IS good (not evil) who chooses to arm themselves should be able to.

I feel like this can become a philosophic thread
How can we know if someone "is" evil, or bad people, so he/she shouldn't have access to guns? Many times people responsible for mass shootings had no criminal history. My opinion is that we all, depending on the circumstances, can become evil and want to really injure someone. But if we don't have an easy access to a firearm, it would be harder to commit that crime.

 

[Phazer]

I feel like this can become a philosophic thread
How can we know if someone "is" evil, or bad people, so he/she shouldn't have access to guns? Many times people responsible for mass shootings had no criminal history. My opinion is that we all, depending on the circumstances, can become evil and want to really injure someone. But if we don't have an easy access to a firearm, it would be harder to commit that crime.

We do not have communal punishment in this country. We have due process with regards to depriving someone of their constitutional rights.

If you can prove that an INDIVIDUAL should be deprived of firearms ownership, fine. Do so for their safety and the safety of the community. It is not acceptable to deprive the entire law-abiding citizenry of their rights because of what an individual might do.

There are no guarantees in life. There is no guarantee that depriving everyone of firearms will stop violent crimes. Depriving the law-abiding of their right to self defense will make them easier targets for criminals.

Repression of rights is never a means to safety. It is a pathway to tyranny.

 

[FrankenCub]

I feel like this can become a philosophic thread
How can we know if someone "is" evil, or bad people, so he/she shouldn't have access to guns? Many times people responsible for mass shootings had no criminal history. My opinion is that we all, depending on the circumstances, can become evil and want to really injure someone. But if we don't have an easy access to a firearm, it would be harder to commit that crime.

If you would take some time to research mass shooters you would find that it is the opposite, there were warning signs that were ignored. The fact is 90%+ of the people here in the States, and even world wide, are decent and good people. Leaving our Islam of course lol. You're happy with punishing the many because of the few? Would it be right to do the same with social media, or the internet in general, because of the few who cause problems there and lead to other's suicides? I'm sure people like you would be up in arms so to say, if that happened. Journalists here have already blew a gasket before when they thought they would be "censored".
In my opinion, those who are scared that someone may be evil, and want weapons banned to quell their fears, are irrational and have deeper issues that should be looked into. Acting on emotion for major decisions leads to very bad decisions. Then to walk around you're whole life worried that someone might have a gun, ridiculous. I am very comfortable knowing the guy next to me may have a concealed firearm.
Ban every firearm in the US and what do you have? Criminals with firearms. Neither of the two will go away or change how easy they are to get. I'd bet you $1000 that I can have an illegal handgun within an hour in NYC, or anywhere on this marble we live on.

 

[Calculon]

Why do we continue to try to educate someone who clearly hasn't taken a moment to research, read, study any of the documents or sources he has been provided. He has no cultural context on the US Constitution or the Bill of Rights. I can excuse that as he is not native to this country but he clearly has done ZERO research on anything he's been told. I started this rodeo thinking that maybe, just maybe OP was interested in facts and not creating a hit piece. Enough already.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I feel like this can become a philosophic thread
How can we know if someone "is" evil, or bad people, so he/she shouldn't have access to guns? Many times people responsible for mass shootings had no criminal history. My opinion is that we all, depending on the circumstances, can become evil and want to really injure someone. But if we don't have an easy access to a firearm, it would be harder to commit that crime.

We don't base what we do on a law abiding citizen that has the ability to become bad. We don't presume guilt beforehand. If someone is proven evil and defective currently, that's a different story. It's called freedom and due process. Bottom line is this. This country is different from many others. Is it perfect? Nope. In saying that, this is how we do what we do and there are reasons for it that are obviously foreign to you. I would appreciate it though if you would stop projecting your "philosophy" on us here in this country. I and many in this country have zero desire to change based in what you believe to be right. Honestly, I don't care what you want. You are free to leave anytime you get tired of the American way. When in Rome sir...

 

[holdover]

Expert advice on what to do if you ever find yourself at gunpoint
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/31555

And a video I can't quite understand for their British accent

I haven't found any government or police sites where they say you have to confront your attackers... and I believe those sites give that information based on statistics.[/QUOTE]

Wow Are you for real? The advice given is to allow the criminals to get in and out as quickly as possible . stay calm ,obey instructions? observe?

You think throwing yourself upon the mercy of a madman is a good idea? What if, sayyyyyyy I don't know, He/they decide to eliminate the witnesses?

You think staying calm and waiting for your turn to be executed is a great idea? You think not provoking a carjacker will save your life?

 

[Robin]

I feel like this can become a philosophic thread
How can we know if someone "is" evil, or bad people, so he/she shouldn't have access to guns? Many times people responsible for mass shootings had no criminal history. My opinion is that we all, depending on the circumstances, can become evil and want to really injure someone. But if we don't have an easy access to a firearm, it would be harder to commit that crime.

Your projecting.
An incident in my life where I stood between a lynch mob and the innocent where I could have easily looked the other way or even joined in. I stood my ground because even as a young man I knew the difference between right and wrong, killing and murder. Oh yeah, everyone was armed with guns capable of full automatic, they blinked first. Its better to go down for just cause than live a life of shame, something the smarmy self-indulgent assholes of this world will never understand.
Robin

 

[holdover]

Oh, 911, the largest mass murder in US history was carried with box cutters, not guns. If the people on board the plane were armed , the hijackings would not have taken place. or at least would have failed. The people on board did exactly as your New Zealand cop advised,Nothing. and as a result of doing nothing 3000 people died .

As a result of 911, the US placed armed air marshals on board planes . the US hasn't had a single hijacking since.

 

[Doc8404]

Oh, 911, the largest mass murder in US history was carried with box cutters, not guns. If the people on board the plane were armed , the hijackings would not have taken place. or at least would have failed. The people on board did exactly as your New Zealand cop advised,Nothing. and as a result of doing nothing 3000 people died .

As a result of 911, the US placed armed air marshals on board planes . the US hasn't had a single hijacking since.

soooo guns in the hands of good guys may work?
oh wait though, they were LEO.
so what are we saying?

 

[Celt]

Of course not everybody's hands are "good." I agree. Everyone though that IS good (not evil) who chooses to arm themselves should be able to.

And in a free society we are assumed "good" until our actions dictate we are not. "Innocent until proven guilty".

You cant prevent "evil", so we punish those that break the law.
You CANNOT deny someone their rights because of something someone else does.

 

[Steal2B]

Why do we continue to try to educate someone who clearly hasn't taken a moment to research, read, study any of the documents or sources he has been provided. He has no cultural context on the US Constitution or the Bill of Rights. I can excuse that as he is not native to this country but he clearly has done ZERO research on anything he's been told. I started this rodeo thinking that maybe, just maybe OP was interested in facts and not creating a hit piece. Enough already.

$HIT, from my cheap seats it is obvious he either never fully read nor mostly undetstood what we actually posted in response to his queries except for an occasional sentence he uses to justify drafting another post that he apparently enjoys reading in their self serving entirety.

 

[holdover]

soooo guns in the hands of good guys may work?
oh wait though, they were LEO.
so what are we saying?

So what? The concept is valid. I don't think it would make much difference to a terrorist he if was shot by police or civilian. Im all for civilians' arming themselves anywhere.

 

[Defilade]

What doesn't the Author of this tread understand?

 

[holdover]

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

 

[Defilade]

So right Holdover. They actually have a word for it. it's called "Democide"

 

[holdover]

Every school shooting in the US demonstrates one thing, the inability of police to protect you when confronted with a killer.

Knowing that the police cannot protect you , you think its a great idea to take away personal rights of self defense?

Hey, how's that video working out for ya?

 

[holdover]

Com ooonnnnn Ruby! Where ya hiding?