Here come the body cameras!

[Airborneguy]

After 3-4 years of back and forth politically and in the media, my precinct is getting online with the body cameras this week.

The training is going on this week, with the cops wearing them starting after they attend. Since the city hasn’t made an agreement with my union yet, the Sergeants are not wearing them at this time. We just supervise their use by the cops. One of my guys is wearing it today but I have no clue what to do yet because I don’t go until Thursday.

I can say this: how this plays out will determine how much longer I stay on the job. I can retire next July 1st. If this is a disaster, I’m out! Amazon here I come! Lol

 

[Marine Cpl]

Best news I've heard!

 

[GUNSICK]

Amazon! Man you don't mess around lol!

 

[GOYABEAN]

So you're going Hog hunting in the Amazon next @Airborneguy

 

[Airborneguy]

I’ll order a loincloth from Amazon before I leave for the Amazon. Amazing.

 

[Airborneguy]

The video and sound quality of ours is far better than anything I’ve seen so far from other departments

 

[Ar15]

I’ll order a loincloth from Amazon before I leave for the Amazon. Amazing.

 

[GOPerfect]

Soon, society will scream to get rid of these!

 

[dwa12479]

Soon, society will scream to get rid of these!

Many of them don't seem to care much what the video shows though, they still scream "murder of an unarmed black man..". The incident in Sacramento last week is a prime example.

 

[Kwalsh]

May I ask a question without offending but why would you be against them? Maybe you aren't but your post seems to imply you are??

 

[GOPerfect]

May I ask a question without offending but why would you be against them? Maybe you aren't but your post seems to imply you are??

I know I am.

 

[Kwalsh]

I'm sorry I just don't understand why you would be against them?

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm sorry I just don't understand why you would be against them?

Lots and lots of reasons.

 

[Depick]

I'm sorry I just don't understand why you would be against them?

It might pick up some karaoke action while in the cruiser.

 

[Depick]

Lots and lots of reasons.

I could imagine it might be beneficial to have an indisputable record of every encounter. While at the same time maybe it would cause some hesitation with officers in responding to a situation. Just a thought.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm in the steam room now. I'll post more later. All sweaty and sticky, excited?

 

[Marine Cpl]

It goes both ways. Discretion for minor crimes will be gone but so will abuse. I welcome it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm in the steam room now. I'll post more later. All sweaty and sticky, excited?

 

[dubleuhb]

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So is @GOPerfect watching or wagging?

 

[GOPerfect]

So is @GOPerfect watching or wagging?

I was a dancin!

 

[ProgSpear]

Soon, society will scream to get rid of these!

I'm already screaming to get rid of most of society.

 

[Airborneguy]

May I ask a question without offending but why would you be against them? Maybe you aren't but your post seems to imply you are??

I’m 100% for cameras, but the administration of the program is looking to be an onerous disaster. We don’t just wear them, use them, then dock them for upload. There’s far more to it. The cop has to go online and label every single clip. Te supervisor has to review much of it based on criteria too lengthy to get into here. Certain incidents now require Sgt’s to collect the name of every cop on scene. In some cases in my department, that could easily go over 100 people.

We hashed this out many times here. Civilians think its a joke to just slap cameras on, call it accountability and think everything is going to be ok. We know there’s more to it. For example, how will all that cataloging get done without accruing overtime in a busy house (or becoming detrimental to manpower)? It’s impossible.

I’ll see how it plays out but so far, this doesn’t bode well for me staying 13 more years as I planned to.

There are a few upsides though. The job is actually encouraging us to constantly notify civilians and other cops alike when the camera is turned on. That’s a great thing. Also its constantly recording on a loop so if you dont turn it on “immediately” when an encounter happens suddenly, once you do the prior 30 seconds will be available as well. That’s a great feature that addresses one of the possible issues that we discussed right on this forum.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I’m 100% for cameras, but the administration of the program is looking to be an onerous disaster. We don’t just wear them, use them, then dock them for upload. There’s far more to it. The cop has to go online and label every single clip. Te supervisor has to review much of it based on criteria too lengthy to get into here. Certain incidents now require Sgt’s to collect the name of every cop on scene. In some cases in my department, that could easily go over 100 people.

We hashed this out many times here. Civilians think its a joke to just slap cameras on, call it accountability and think everything is going to be ok. We know there’s more to it. For example, how will all that cataloging get done without accruing overtime in a busy house (or becoming detrimental to manpower)? It’s impossible.

I’ll see how it plays out but so far, this doesn’t bode well for me staying 13 more years as I planned to.

There are a few upsides though. The job is actually encouraging us to constantly notify civilians and other cops alike when the camera is turned on. That’s a great thing. Also its constantly recording on a loop so if you dont turn it on “immediately” when an encounter happens suddenly, once you do the prior 30 seconds will be available as well. That’s a great feature that addresses one of the possible issues that we discussed right on this forum.

That's your department's problem for making it difficult. It should only be an upload at the end of the shift to be used when needed. All that extra bureaucracy is their fault.

 

[Kwalsh]

So you like the cameras but the politicians are ruining it, thank you for the honest answer and I hope you don’t think I was trying to start an argument

 

[Airborneguy]

Holy crap it took all of 1 tour for me to be involved in a mess with these things!

 

[GOPerfect]

Holy crap it took all of 1 tour for me to be involved in a mess with these things!

That is why you get paid the big bucks, suck it up!

 

[Shadow2]

If a 14 year old girl film edit and and post to you tube in 10 minutes i should hope grown adults can handle download and cataloging body cams.

 

[Twogunwilly]

Holy crap it took all of 1 tour for me to be involved in a mess with these things!

What's up meow?

 

[Magnus]

Listen if you’re interested I’m working on a show. It’s basically like a live action of what Officers do. We could use your body camera footage, the show would be called, get this, BODY CAM! I just need a catchy song.

 

[Airborneguy]

If a 14 year old girl film edit and and post to you tube in 10 minutes i should hope grown adults can handle download and cataloging body cams.

That’s a pretty unfair comparison. Everything in life is harder when one has to follow rules. I could easily upload the files to youtube. Uploading, labeling, tagging cops names and appropriate DA’s and supervisors for review and evidence is a little more work.