How They Are Really Going to Disarm All of Us ( video )
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RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
I've said this for years starting way back in the early 90's. This is exactly how I would handle it. But it is not without constitutional issues. Back then those issues were the greatest hurdle I could come up with. That said, we all see how the SCOTUS decisions are essentially ignored. So that hurdle is removed.
If it happens, citizens can just go ahead and manufacture arms. This is clearly in line with the constitution but would present a problem resulting in many arrests and trials and period where no new arms are being manufactured.
Another and easier way would be to regulate any and all ammunition manufactures out of existence. Today that is on the table as well.
If it happens, citizens can just go ahead and manufacture arms. This is clearly in line with the constitution but would present a problem resulting in many arrests and trials and period where no new arms are being manufactured.
Another and easier way would be to regulate any and all ammunition manufactures out of existence. Today that is on the table as well.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I often times get nervous that it will be to the point where I can't get primers and brass. Well, brass can be made by turning it if need be.... but making primers is difficult if damn near impossible for the average person.
I have reloaded 22lr, but man does it take patience and it's obnoxiously slow. But doable.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Yes limiting or controlling powder, primers, bullets and heads is also being talked about and has been for years now. Most of the legislation never even getting to committee. But that's changing now.
They don't need to do much. Although there are over 400 million firearms in the U.S. they're likely held by less than 1/3 of the country and that is a very generous number. Still a very significant number but legislatively not a concern. That's unfortunate. I'm looking at you FUDS. lol
150 million gun owners then with over 400 million firearms isn't a concern? Hahaha, well, ok!
Save brass, it's easy! And Warsaw Ghetto Resistance fighters made guns from gas pipes, ammo wasn't shipped in... So if there's "Will" then a way is found!
Death of a thousand cuts is definitely at play in the liberal strongholds. And by predominant control of news media they'd have you believe that's this is what's happening everywhere, when in fact it's not.
Today, half the nation has recognized Constitutional Freedoms by relaxing 2A restraints, while only 9 States are the worst implementing hurdle after hurdle for their resident citizens to exercise their 2A Rights! Here in NY, the post Bruen State reaction can only be construed as malfeasance towards those exercising 2A Rights! Anyways...
So as much as they'll try to create the impression that the end (2A) is near... It's actually blossoming elsewhere! Thing is this... Will you at some point in your life relocate to gravitate to a place where the laws there resonate with your beliefs!? The country was founded in this happening for Religious reasoning, and now, the great migration and resettling of those living here may be taking place due to States Laws and Constitutional transgressions by those seeking to seize and keep powers not bestowed upon them by the Constitution, whether it be Federal or States...
So Firearm manufacturing, Ammunition, Parts and Accessories... Aren't going anywhere!
Just sayin'
Have a great day!
And oh...
FUCK NY!
Save brass, it's easy! And Warsaw Ghetto Resistance fighters made guns from gas pipes, ammo wasn't shipped in... So if there's "Will" then a way is found!
Death of a thousand cuts is definitely at play in the liberal strongholds. And by predominant control of news media they'd have you believe that's this is what's happening everywhere, when in fact it's not.
Today, half the nation has recognized Constitutional Freedoms by relaxing 2A restraints, while only 9 States are the worst implementing hurdle after hurdle for their resident citizens to exercise their 2A Rights! Here in NY, the post Bruen State reaction can only be construed as malfeasance towards those exercising 2A Rights! Anyways...
So as much as they'll try to create the impression that the end (2A) is near... It's actually blossoming elsewhere! Thing is this... Will you at some point in your life relocate to gravitate to a place where the laws there resonate with your beliefs!? The country was founded in this happening for Religious reasoning, and now, the great migration and resettling of those living here may be taking place due to States Laws and Constitutional transgressions by those seeking to seize and keep powers not bestowed upon them by the Constitution, whether it be Federal or States...
So Firearm manufacturing, Ammunition, Parts and Accessories... Aren't going anywhere!
Just sayin'
Have a great day!
And oh...
FUCK NY!
When all the guns are gone, the government will have to start registering the sale of gasoline and other flammable liquids.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Might as well add batteries to that list too...
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I will say this. If and when the US Government decides to confiscate guns in the US, they will in fact confiscate guns in the US.
Out of my cold dead hands, I hear this one quite often. Okay, you will be dead.
The majority of Americans with guns will not fight the government if this were to occur. Lemmings, so many lemmings in the US. Lots of talk, very little actions to back up their words.
I pray the day does not come, but when it does, the .gov will retrieve millions and millions and millions of guns from the people.
Those who think that they will hold back the power of the government, I fear they do not understand the true power of the government.
Out of my cold dead hands, I hear this one quite often. Okay, you will be dead.
The majority of Americans with guns will not fight the government if this were to occur. Lemmings, so many lemmings in the US. Lots of talk, very little actions to back up their words.
I pray the day does not come, but when it does, the .gov will retrieve millions and millions and millions of guns from the people.
Those who think that they will hold back the power of the government, I fear they do not understand the true power of the government.
ManualF150
.308 Win
How I anticipate it might happen will be similar to COVID. They will use incentives and scare tactics on the lemmings.
Remember when folks were getting arrested and harassed for having a few friends over on their OWN PROPERTY?
Remember when folks were told to quarantine? To get clot shots or get fired? To tell their employer that they got some fucking shot or get hung out to dry?
The governments have massaged people's minds so much, that they are truly lemmings.
At any other point in time without such an urgency, the people would've been like hell no!
Governments have vulnerabilities, they rely on people to execute orders. Those people all have their own vulnerabilities and beliefs. Our governments strength is also its vulnerability. Those serving in the government who tend to believe in freedom out number the ones believe in absolute power.
Civil war is a nasty business and it can be triggered by many things.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Unfortunately, I believe your assessment is accurate. Even IF most offer resistance you will succumb to overwhelming force. Trust me I use to work on these military drone systems similar to ISTAR ( Intelligence, Surveillance, Target acquisition, and Reconnaissance ) and they will take you out in short order with no casualties to themselves. Unless you are in a situation where you have numbers and support - when they are ready to take your weapons they will.
I am still out of work, been a great many months so far...
With me being out, I have had lots of time for this, that and the other thing.
I have been binge watching a decent amount of movies and TV series.
Just finished watching the three seasons of Colony from a few years back.
It was amazing to see how many Americans sold out other Americans for a better/nicer place to live. Sell out others for a position in the new government and the like./
I do not trust that Americans have what it takes to really resist.
I am not at all a defeatist, I am a realist.
With me being out, I have had lots of time for this, that and the other thing.
I have been binge watching a decent amount of movies and TV series.
Just finished watching the three seasons of Colony from a few years back.
It was amazing to see how many Americans sold out other Americans for a better/nicer place to live. Sell out others for a position in the new government and the like./
I do not trust that Americans have what it takes to really resist.
I am not at all a defeatist, I am a realist.
Drones have pilots, mechanics and armament techs, they all have families, therefore the weapon system has a weak link in the system. Until AI takes over piloting, maintaining and arming the drone, they are able to be defeated.
Yep weakness can be used by both sides. However when the US government turns to that it will have lost.
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A resistance force happened in western Russia and was very effective against the Germans, just like France and Yugoslavia and the Ukraine today.
The number of IED's and blown up limbless Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan tells the tale against US forces.
To take the guns would require that citizens simply turn them in or be killed and or starved out.
It is physically impossible to get enough troops to get the guns and have anything left..while 7 on your street might surrender the other 9 on 5 nearby streets will kill every sob of a bitch possible and take their weapons.
We have 5 million in the military and one million cops of all stripes and Biden would need CCP help and the chinese are pussies who have no tradition of fighting since their great gandfathers met the US Marines.
Based upon Jan 6th and the last elections,, 25 million might want to kill kill kill every gun grabbing sob on the planet while the other 1hundred million kind of cheer from the sidelines.
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Soldiers know... every unit is a sort of forced labor situation, and their interest is low, unless they are Seals, and Seals will kill any gun takers.
The number of IED's and blown up limbless Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan tells the tale against US forces.
To take the guns would require that citizens simply turn them in or be killed and or starved out.
It is physically impossible to get enough troops to get the guns and have anything left..while 7 on your street might surrender the other 9 on 5 nearby streets will kill every sob of a bitch possible and take their weapons.
We have 5 million in the military and one million cops of all stripes and Biden would need CCP help and the chinese are pussies who have no tradition of fighting since their great gandfathers met the US Marines.
Based upon Jan 6th and the last elections,, 25 million might want to kill kill kill every gun grabbing sob on the planet while the other 1hundred million kind of cheer from the sidelines.
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Soldiers know... every unit is a sort of forced labor situation, and their interest is low, unless they are Seals, and Seals will kill any gun takers.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
One possible way might be through the digital dollar . If you have 4473s on record you might be ordered to turn over your guns or your assets will be frozen. Eventually your house and property will be turned over to the banks. You will receive no pay from work , nor can you access your bank account, Your family and kids will go hungry, the digital dollar will be type of slavery . It doesn't have to be done by force of arms
Well the ones imposing these orders and enforcing them had better live somewhere else besides my backyard as they do today. They will be the first ones for a visit by people impacted by it. Joe Cop or Politician John might piss off their own family members and friends wanting answers as they too get disarmed! Do you think that Joe cop who lives in one County is going to be OK with say his Dad who is not a cop getting his house swatted in another County? Ain't happening! They would have to bring in the U.N or some other force to disarm.
Yep 10th Mtn Troops won’t be happy when the 82nd troops mishandle their mothers, sisters, girlfriends and so on. Then you have an issue.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Why do you think the the military is going woke? Ive been saying it for a long time , they arent building an army to fight the Chinese they are building an army to fight us.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Well, that's just it. Just before I retired they were finalizing a system where AI made the decision as to whether the target was a threat and if lethal force was appropriate. Prior to that, a human was the final arbiter in make that decision. That was no longer a variable.
That project was a few years ago.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Decisions to destroy you OR if you are a threat to be neutralized are typically made 1,000 of miles from where you live. Just saying ...
Umm, No. Someone close by has to enforce it. Swat teams or such. We are talking house to house.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Understood. I was referring to a larger organized threat. Yes, locally house to house I agree with you.
Everybody has someone who lives near them.
once the word is out who those "1,000 of miles from there you live" are, they will have to start watching their neighbors very closely, and rethinking their life decisions.
Yes, it is. And there won't be any clearly defined "lines" on a map to determine who is whom.
Just read history books. It's all there in black and white. it might get messier because of technology, but the end results are always the same.
The real kicker is when AI is used to target not just who is a current threat but who will become a threat in 6 months, a year, or two years down the road.
One of the things I remember reading about stalin was he knew who was going to be his enemy in the future. That is, he knew what he wanted to do years down the road and figured out which of his current loyal underlings were going to resist him.
I have no doubt AI will be used to target seemingly non-threatening people who might just become a problem in the future. For starters, just about everyone on this forum.
Woke people are generally weak and incompetent and have no killer instinct unless they are already in a drug gang. In the military sent out to kill domestic MAGA is a joke.
The reason why they want to eliminate all money except digital is precisely to take all the guns and the underground cash economy..no other reason can possibly exist.
No one has seen an America at war with itself, like the Civil war in 160 years...............woke's are such a human joke.
The reason why they want to eliminate all money except digital is precisely to take all the guns and the underground cash economy..no other reason can possibly exist.
No one has seen an America at war with itself, like the Civil war in 160 years...............woke's are such a human joke.