Hunter Safety Class not required to purchase a rifle or shotgun

[cgrutt]

This seems to be DEC article OP is referring to...

Unsafe Target Shooting - Onondaga County
On Dec. 29, ECO Don Damrath received a call from a couple hunting on the Three Rivers Wildlife Management Area in the town of Lysander. The hunters told Damrath they were pursuing pheasants with their Labrador Retriever when they heard gunshots and ricocheting bullets. The ricochets were close enough that the hunters ducked for cover and headed back to their vehicle. From the parking area, the couple observed two men shooting a handgun at a target hung on a tree. The only backstop was another group of trees, and the shots were being fired in the direction where the couple had been hunting. The couple were able to write down a vehicle registration before the two target shooters drove away. ECO Damrath called ECO Rick Head for assistance and after taking statements and collecting evidence, the officers tracked down the shooters in the city of Syracuse. The two men readily admitted to target shooting at the trees, using a permitted 9 mm handgun. The shooters also admitted that they did not consider the insufficiency of their backstop, nor that the bullets could ricochet or pose a danger to hunters using the property. ECO Damrath charged each shooter with unlawfully damaging vegetation on a Wildlife Management Area. In addition, ECO Damrath provided brief instruction on firearms safety and encouraged the shooters to join a gun club.

Gun was permitted by Syracuse resident (s). We don't know where or when gun owner obtained his permit but Onondaga county does require safety course for new pistol permit applicants. So it is possible shooters already attended a state mandated safety course. For all we know they could also have NYS hunter licenses and have attended Hunter safety class. Bottom line is you can't fix stupid they clearly should not have been target shooting without adequate backstop in area where hunters may have been present during hunting season. OP seems to be all over the place on this thread esp with claims of bullets whizzing over head in company of other hunters. I'm not sure I'm buying it lol...

 

[Saltwater60]

No, I am not a troll. I just was concerned when I read the DEC article about some guys who apparently were not practicing safe firearm handling, almost accidentally killed a bunch of pheasant hunters. Just seemed to me like it would make sense for some new gun owners to take a firearm safety class before they go out shooting. Just like we teach people to drive, or to ride a motorcycle, etc.

None of your posts makes this clear until this one. Your original post had nothing about gun safety or pheasant hunters almost getting killed.

 

[Saltwater60]

This seems to be DEC article OP is referring to...



Gun was permitted by Syracuse resident (s). We don't know where or when gun owner obtained his permit but Onondaga county does require safety course for new pistol permit applicants. So it is possible shooters already attended a state mandated safety course. For all we know they could also have NYS hunter licenses and have attended Hunter safety class. Bottom line is you can't fix stupid they clearly should not have been target shooting without adequate backstop in area where hunters may have been present during hunting season. OP seems to be all over the place on this thread esp with claims of bullets whizzing over head in company of other hunters. I'm not sure I'm buying it lol...

Agreed. None of his posts made it clear he was talking about this situation and the first post made no sense about it relating to hunters safety at all.

I have had bullets sent over my head while hunting. My father heard them flying over his head and he was maybe 4 feet away. It happens. It was the first time I heard him say the f-word.

 

[nortatoga]

Opp's

 

[cgrutt]

Agreed. None of his posts made it clear he was talking about this situation and the first post made no sense about it relating to hunters safety at all.

I have had bullets sent over my head while hunting. My father heard them flying over his head and he was maybe 4 feet away. It happens. It was the first time I heard him say the f-word.

No doubt. OP didn't claim it happened while hunting he claimed it occurred afterwards while at camp. I've been tagged a few times with ricochets coming back off backstop at the range. Shit happens...

 

[Karpteach]

No, I am not a troll. I just was concerned when I read the DEC article about some guys who apparently were not practicing safe firearm handling, almost accidentally killed a bunch of pheasant hunters. Just seemed to me like it would make sense for some new gun owners to take a firearm safety class before they go out shooting. Just like we teach people to drive, or to ride a motorcycle, etc.

I’m a hunter for over 35 years.
What about the hunters who accidentally shoot other hunters in the course of hunting? Accidents are gonna happen. If someone is negligent they should be prosecuted. As for pistol shooting, most guys take courses or have been trained in the military.
Please give it a rest.

 

[Bigfoot]

Welcome to the land of misfits, curmudgeons and straight up assholes.

 

[pramaglia]

That’s an awful bold statement from someone who just joined. Have you looked around? Have you viewed the hunting section?

Your first post was vague at best and I’m guessing no one knew what you were getting at. I read it as you should have to take a course for safety to obtain all guns and be permitted. Your clarification of that does not match your first post. Secondly this clarification of target shooters almost killing a pheasant hunter who on this forum would have known anything about this unless you posted and doesn’t match your first clarification of your original post. Your first clarification was we don’t care about gun rights and we will be standing in line to get approved for ammo, now this?

1.) you either don’t know or care enough to post thorough details to get an accurate response to your question
2.) your a liberal looking to cause trouble
3.) your just nuts.

So what is it?

I do care and yes, I probably was not very clear with the point I was trying to make. I attempted to clarify what I was getting at in some of my replies. I guess you missed that part. I was not looking for an argument from everyone. I was just pointing out that it seemed odd to me that the government would require a safety class only for hunters when the majority of firearm accidents are not hunting related. I am in no way even remotely liberal. God forbid. And if riding through Bedford Stuy on my motocycle for 10+ years working the night shift at IBM makes me crazy, then yes, I am crazy. Sorry if some of my responses were taken personally by some of you. I felt I was being unfairly attacked by some of the responses and I reacted harsely when I should have instead clarified the intent of my question.

 

[Doc8404]

All is good in my mind. But I am but one Misfit

 

[camper4lyfe]

I do care and yes, I probably was not very clear with the point I was trying to make. I attempted to clarify what I was getting at in some of my replies. I guess you missed that part. I was not looking for an argument from everyone. I was just pointing out that it seemed odd to me that the government would require a safety class only for hunters when the majority of firearm accidents are not hunting related. I am in no way even remotely liberal. God forbid. And if riding through Bedford Stuy on my motocycle for 10+ years working the night shift at IBM makes me crazy, then yes, I am crazy. Sorry if some of my responses were taken personally by some of you. I felt I was being unfairly attacked by some of the responses and I reacted harsely when I should have instead clarified the intent of my question.

Protip: edit your original post so new people coming in don't jump on you

 

[GUNSICK]

Snowflake lol!

 

[Saltwater60]

I do care and yes, I probably was not very clear with the point I was trying to make. I attempted to clarify what I was getting at in some of my replies. I guess you missed that part. I was not looking for an argument from everyone. I was just pointing out that it seemed odd to me that the government would require a safety class only for hunters when the majority of firearm accidents are not hunting related. I am in no way even remotely liberal. God forbid. And if riding through Bedford Stuy on my motocycle for 10+ years working the night shift at IBM makes me crazy, then yes, I am crazy. Sorry if some of my responses were taken personally by some of you. I felt I was being unfairly attacked by some of the responses and I reacted harsely when I should have instead clarified the intent of my question.

It’s all god man. Just try to be more clear about what your posting and your points.

 

[Twogunwilly]

Teach gun safety in school k-12 once a year, safe handling, make it mandatory with no throwing rocks bs in case of attack.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

In NY State you have to take a course first to apply for a pistol permit.

IF.... I remember correctly...in the early 60's a youngster had to have a safety hunting course to buy ammo/gun and be in public alone. NY (with the long gun, not apply to handgun)

 

[BDinPutnam]

All is good in my mind. But I am but one Misfit

Same here.

And thank you for clarifying which one you are, Doc.