I’m new to the gun world in NY and I would like to stay compliant to our current law.

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I work in LE and felt most comfortable switching solely to an Ares SCR (now Fightlite) and a non-threaded barrel. Nobody can bother me and nobody can take it shooting as well. Thought I would miss having a traditional pistol grip but I am really enjoying this rifle. Just need low height irons or a low mount red dot like I have.
 
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Normalaveragejoe said:
I have zero clue which dealer to goto.. I’ve just google searched around Long Island which dealers have stripped lower. Most don’t have their website to see what they have or what they sell. Some dealers sounded shady according to different forum like Jerry’s and freds? So I’m just timid on where to go.
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Do you live in Queens, NY? (avatar) If you live in Queens/ NYC you can forget about buying/ building an AR15 because they are banned in NYC. NYC has different rules compared to NYS.
Additionally, NYC residents must have a rifle/shotgun permit in order to possess any long guns. All rifles & shotguns in NYC must be registered with NYPD.
I don't think an FFL will sell or transfer a stripped lower to you because of where you reside. imo
You may want to do some research on what is required & what is legal to own (guns) in NYC before ordering parts.
 
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Mak44 said:
(based on your title, I assume you're a civilian.)
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Anyone not in the military is a civilian. Soldiers not performing military duties in relation to a military mission are subject to the laws of the state or host nation. So in essence they are civilians while not performing a military mission.


Then you have a class of civilians who are exempt from certain laws which are know as the privileged. With enough money, political clout or a specific job description, anyone can be privileged.
 
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Thanks, I removed it. I was referring to op not being a LEO? Sorry, wasn't referring to the military.
 
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Normalaveragejoe said:
So I recently ordered upper receiver from PSA since I would like to build my AR (budget). However I’m very confused with the law. First and foremost, the barrel length. It was advertised as 16” barrel and it does not state it’s pined or welded. So I’m assuming it’s removable, so the total length of the barrel is 16” without the flash hider?
second I’ve seen people saying welding the thread protector is the safe bet but would it be ok to just jbweld the thing and call it a day? Thirdly any recommended featureless build without that weird stock?
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Dont bother building the upper,just buy one. Its going to end up costing you more money that way. Your going to need tools and your going to buy parts that you can get cheaper by just buying an upper you like , buy a good one and dont look back.
 
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spat said:
But, once you have registered it as an SBR, I don't think moving it interstate is as simple as extending the barrel anymore.

Otherwise, you could just swap uppers. No soldering needed.
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BATFE says it is, but you must leave the short barrel at home.

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Full letter: Transport-a-Title-II-as-a-Title-1-across-state-lines.pdf
 
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Mine are fixed mag (5 round top loader) used for target shooting and hunting. Both mine are 20" one with muzzle brake, the other unthreaded. Both have fixed stock. 223/5.56 and 224 Valkyrie
 
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Mine is a PSA build, 10-round fixed PMAGS, Mean Arms Loader, etc. Someone has stated that a fixed-mag AR-15 can have ALL of the evil features to include the dr(thr)eaded barrel. My FFL says absolutely no threaded barrels, period but I think that this applies only to pistols in NYS for non-LEO personnel. Does anyone have definite information IF your AR-15 has a fixed mag? The NYS Trooper guidance states FIXED MAG & at least ONE of the EVIL features makes this a non-compliant rifle.

Yeah, here we go again...
 
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If it's a fixed mag it's incapable right? Therein lies the issue and the whole point of most of these conversations.

Also, the word AND has definitive legal connotations associated with it ss well.
 
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pshift said:
If it's a fixed mag it's incapable right? Therein lies the issue and the whole point of most of these conversations.

Also, the word AND has definitive legal connotations associated with it ss well.
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You’re correct the word and is in there but you’re reading it wrong. It says does your rifle accept detachable magazines? If no stop right there and it is not an assault rifle. If yes, then you can not have one evil feature or it is illegal. So you’re FFL is not correct in saying a fixed mag can not have a threaded barrel. If having a fixed mag made it so you couldn’t have evil features then why have a fixed mag?
 
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pshift said:
If it's a fixed mag it's incapable right? Therein lies the issue and the whole point of most of these conversations.

Also, the word AND has definitive legal connotations associated with it ss well.
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"Fixed mag" = all the features your heart desires





Lol technically nothing is fixed nor permanent.... It's all how far down the rabbit hole you want to take it.

Many people are satisfied to just slap on a simple mag lock.


Others aren't compliant enough and use a mag lock, loctite, and/or epoxy the hardware.

(Even if you go that route and super duper quadruple permenantly affix a mag lock all you have to do is cut it instead).


so at the end of the day literally any style "can" be removed depending on how motivated you are.

me, a stand alone mag lock is sufficient. It's purpose is to lock my magazine to my rifle. I'm in compliance. No DA is going try try a case against a mag lock gun. Not going to happen they would be opening up Pandora's box to get it all thrown out in court.
 
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