In escalation, Flanagan blasts Cuomo’s gun control push

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  1. Madmallard

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    The state’s top Republican unloaded on Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s latest push for a “red flag” gun control bill, saying that Cuomo had failed to negotiate in good faith and was “disengaged and disinterested in doing the people’s business, content instead to govern by photo-ops and press releases."

    Senate Majority Leader John Flanagan (R-East Northport) issued his 385-word critique after Cuomo rallied in White Plains on the second day of a push for the bill, NY A 1148 (17R), which the governor’s reelection campaign is touting in a television advertisement.

    “Where has he been for three months since Senate Republicans passed a comprehensive school safety package to improve security at our schools, provide an armed resource officer for districts who choose to have one and to finally address the mental health issues that have contributed to most of the senseless school shootings that have occurred throughout our nation?” Flanagan stated. “Instead, the governor made only perfunctory outreach to me and then hit the road to attack the character and integrity of every member of our Senate Majority. He travels the state on the taxpayer dime performing a monologue, when the hard work of governing actually requires a dialogue.”

    At each stop in his push, Cuomo has said Republicans who control the 63-seat state Senate are an obstacle to the legislation, which is expected to pass the Democrat-dominated Assembly on Wednesday.

    The Republican conference is regionally split on gun control issues: Long Islanders like Flanagan have voted with Democrats on bills like the 2013 SAFE Act, which was passed in the wake of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, while the upstate majority in the conference is opposed.

    Initially, Flanagan said he would “review” Cuomo’s legislation but mentioned his colleagues’ bills to increase funding for mental health in schools and for school security upgrades. He also mentioned bills that would increase the number of police officers in schools, including one by state Sen. Simcha Felder — a Brooklyn Democrat who gives the GOP a crucial 32nd vote — mandating the officers' presence outside New York City schools.

    Cuomo’s push is coming with five days left in the scheduled legislative session and could tie in with other outstanding legislative priorities, like the renewal of speed enforcement cameras in New York City or legislation to expand and regulate sports betting beyond the state’s casinos.

    Or Cuomo could simply be trying to jam the GOP, as Flanagan suggested. In White Plains, the governor said he was looking for “literally … one Republican vote” for the bill, which is supported by Democrats.

    “I am not confident, frankly, and that’s why I’m here today trying to get people engaged,” the governor said. “This is an election year. They are politicians. They want people to vote for them. I am trying to demonstrate the level of popular support for this common-sense bill.”

    Flanagan blamed Cuomo’s posture on the election year, and his Democratic primary challenge from actor Cynthia Nixon.

    “In the final year of his second term as the state’s chief executive, Andrew Cuomo is driven by two things: his extraordinary disdain for anyone who does not agree with him, especially the Legislature, and Cynthia Nixon,” Flanagan stated. “He has put politics ahead of the public interest, and made it virtually impossible to achieve meaningful progress for the people of the state.”

    In escalation, Flanagan blasts Cuomo’s gun control push
     
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  2. Airborneguy

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    Would be nice if he actually attacked the substance of the bill rather than just the politics of it.
     
  3. Podmonkey

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    All politicians are so disconnected from the real world. Every single one of them needs to taken out to the woods and buried.
     
  4. Grimscale

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    I like where you're going with this... but not out into the woods.
    They should be buried up to their necks in the town square, preferably on or near an ant hill, as an example against further Legislative corruption.
     
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  5. Bob

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    Since Flanagan voted for SAFE, he has less than ZERO credibility with me when it comes to issues relating to firearms or constitutional rights.
     
  6. togmaster

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    It's all a big game to them and they are playing with our freedoms.
     
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  7. Mosinitis

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    Flanagan voted for the SAFE act. NY GOP picked him as their majority leader. They and Flanagan can go and fuck themselves.
     
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  8. Carlos Hathcock

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    Lie down with dogs and wake up with fleas (assholes in this case)
     
  9. Calculon

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    This was a gift to flanagan from monkey-face to support his re-election in exchange for bending over.
     
  10. ricklovin93

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    Just a heads up A11148 passed the assembly and is on to the senate.
     
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  11. Phauxtoe

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    He is a CUCK, he is only playing tough republican for an election is my guess!
    he will go back to Lap Dog asap
     
  12. Deplorable Me

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    So this Red Flag law will empower school teachers to create a situation by which the parents of a student can have their firearms confiscated. Are these the same school teachers the ones molesting male teen students?
     
  13. MadScientist

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    On the plus side though DeFransisco seems to be indicating this will die in a senate committee:
    DeFran: No Senate Vote On ‘Red Flag’ Bill
    I like this guy, if I am not mistaken he voted against SAFE. I’m just really bummed out he’s not running for re-election, cuz I’d be voting for him in a heartbeat this fall.
     
  14. Saltwater60

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    Wait for it because in about 3 weeks he will vote for it. Screw them all.
     
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  15. Bob

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    He’s also the guy who WOULD have been running the Senate, were it not for the turncoat Mike Nozzolio. Maybe he’d have stuck around a little longer.
     
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  16. Acer-m14

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    if it don't die .. you know it will be .. a message in the dark of night like the un-safe act .. FUAC ..
     
  17. BDinPutnam

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    Given that his party controls a bare majority in the legislature, it would be nice if he would "do" something about it, instead of "blasting" it. Of course he voted for unSAFE so screw this dink.
     
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  18. Dinkus the Stinkus

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    Ahhhh! Stop slandering my name ffs... I agree they are morons but jeez, no need to bring me down too.
     
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  19. 96coal449

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    Anyone who voted for the unsafeACT is a fuckin traitor. Fuck 'em all!
    Commie cock suckers.
     
  20. MadScientist

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  21. 96coal449

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    I watched Larry Sharpe speak at a rally back in Feb. Whole bus load of patriots attended. Saw it on the Mert Melfa ch on youtube. The whole channel has since been removed from youtube. He basically stated he would push for the repeal of the safeact. Said he would accomplish this within a year. About 8 months. I find it questionable as to why an unconstitutional act would take that long to remove. I just don't trust politicians period. Although Larry seemed pretty genuine.

    I think the rally was dated 2/18/18 in Norwich.
     
  22. Bob

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    Any politician in New York who promises a repeal of SAFE within eight months is selling you a bill of goods.
    As a chief executive of the state, the most he can do is order that it not be enforced. This still leaves the law on the books for the next person who ends up in the seat.
    Any attempts to introduce legislation to repeal it will be met by fierce opposition by the downstate-controlled Asembly, and such legislation simply will not pass. No amount of concessions or arm-twisting will get them to go for it.

    The ONLY way to get rid of SAFE is to pick it apart piece by piece in the courts. And until the makeup of the courts change, we're screwed there too. When we have judges that are willing to use Mother Jones as a reliable source of data and even cite their "database" in a ruling, the deck has been stacked against us from the beginning.

    On the whole, SAFE is a bell that can not be unrung.
     
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  23. Grimscale

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    The final statement in that article is SO rife with inaccuracies!

    "In a statement, Cuomo spokeswoman Dani Lever knocked Molinaro.

    “It is extremely troubling that County Executive Marc Molinaro doesn’t know the first thing about governing,” Lever said. “Pushing the Legislature to pass a life-saving, common-sense gun safety bill that would become a law in the State is clearly a function of Government, but we’ll leave the cheap political tricks to the County Executive, the New York GOP and the NRA.”"

    Ignoring the bullshit "life-saving, common-sense" crap they like to spew, or the statement that they believe this infringement "would" become Law there are these other falsehoods:
    "Clearly a function of Government" - While it may be a function of our Tyrannical Overlord to push for Laws he wants, he can NOT do it with Campaign Funds or it becomes a Campaign issue, and thus is against the Law if done in schools.
    "Cheap political tricks" - code words for anything and everything the Tyrant does, but projected upon his opponent as a means of distraction.
    "NRA" - Where in the article does it state that the NRA was involved in the complaint filed against the Tyrant? Oh, that's right, they need to keep pounding on the NRA with every lying breath they have because the NRA represents Law-abiding, gun-owning Americans. The kind of people they don't like.
     
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  24. MadScientist

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    I think the issue would be as governed hed have limited legal ability to flat out repeal a law like that. Best case he would be able to simply veto any new laws, which believe me I’d love an ally like that in Albany.
     
  25. BDinPutnam

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    Molinaro has a better chance of losing to Cuomo by 60 points. Larry would probably lose by 70+

    I'm not saying it's right, just the way I see this shit hole state.
     
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