Amateur. I would've put 10 in the head from 50 in 7 seconds flat.
Indiana shopping mall shooter shot dead by armed 'good Samaritan,' police say
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livingston
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That first bite must have been a very big surprise
GTN
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What’s the 1.25 hit factor?
livingston
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Indiana mall mass shooting: First victim had a gun, no time to use it
Three people were killed and two others were injured after someone opened fire at the food court inside the Greenwood Park Mall. The shooter was killed by an armed civilian inside the mall, according to police.By: WRTV Staff
Posted at 6:09 AM, Jul 19, 2022
and last updated 7:09 AM, Jul 19, 2022
INDIANAPOLIS — One of the people shot to death by a gunman at Greenwood Park Mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Sunday was carrying a handgun that he never had a chance to pull, Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison told WRTV.
Victor Gomez was walking in as the gunman was exiting a restroom near the food court when the suspect, Jonathan Douglas Sapirman, shot him to death.
"He (Sapirman) comes out (of a restroom) and the very first person that he sees walking into the restroom, he fires on, (he) shoots, then turns the gun to the food court and starts firing into the food court," Ison said.
Indiana mall mass shooting: First victim had a gun, no time to use it
One of the people shot to death by a gunman at Greenwood Park Mall Sunday was carrying a handgun that he never had a chance to pull, Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison told WRTV.
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spat
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You have to start while eating lunch in a food court setting. and there are 100 targets out there, only one of which is the one you're looking for.
And you'll hear a signal to start anytime during lunch, you won't know when....
This does not negate our Right to keep and bear a gun for self defense.
Even police and army personnel are caught off-guard sometimes.
But I guarantee the Dems, especially the tyrannical vulture in albany, will try to use this knowledge as justification for infringing on our Rights.
That_FNG
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You got to give it to the kid, he saved how many lives while risking his own. From 50 yards away he could have easily just ran out. This is the definition of "a hero"
Phazer
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The record has been corrected (see above memo). The murderer fired for 15 seconds, not 2 minutes, before being put down. Therefore: If police are not at the scene to act immediately, a lot of people die quickly at the hands of madmen. And...police are NOT available to act immediately. So, law-abiding citizens MUST be free to act lawfully to save lives
speedkills27
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@OnSight Firearms Training has been preaching 25 yard B8 drills for as long as I've known him. What's the longest distance in your home? how long is a supermarket aisle? IMHO anyone only practicing 3-10 yds is severely limiting their own capabilities to problem solve these more complex issues. Any good firearms instructor that's not a FUDD is teaching longer engagement distances
99cummins
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spat
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I'll take this kid over the Uvdale or Denver cops any day.
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Denver police opened fire into a crowd, injuring 6 bystanders, while going after a suspect who never fired a gun
The department police officers opened fire three times in the span of a week — fatally shooting individuals the Wednesday and Friday before the Sunday shooting.
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GTN
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I went and tried it today.
The Dixon Drill.
45 yards
On a timer random beep
not using a support
only hits counted were on body and one was on the line.
The one with the red dot surprised me. I thought that would have been better than open sights
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That_FNG
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Out of curiosity do we know what handgun he used? Have not seen it anywhere in the news
spat
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Said 9mm glock. Not sure which model, but odds are probably a 19.
Or 48 or 43x...
That_FNG
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Or a 26, 43x, 48, 17 or 34 or 45. I curious as to which. Since he is 22 and one can not legally purchase a pistol until 21 years of age that puts him with roughly 2 years of pistol shooting experience at best. Since many new shooters hit low with Glocks I’m curious as to which model and if he had taken any classes. To hit a target with roughly 80% accuracy at 40 yards is quite good for a newer pistol shooter.
You do realize he could have been shooting pistols his whole life?? Like he can shoot other people's handguns, or been gifted one by his parents, or any number of other scenarios
That_FNG
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Possibly I suppose. I would like to know more as I find it fascinating.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Grandfather taught him.. When did he start shooting. .. anyone's guess ....Grandfather could have started him at 15 years old. Maybe younger.
spat
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Yes, it could be any of those models. But the 19 is very popular, and I wouldn't want to try 50 yard shots with a 43 LOL.
Just because he couldn't purchase one until last year doesn't mean he didn't have lots of experience shooting one.
He said he learned from his grandfather.
I learned to shoot from my grandfather too. Probably started with a .22 when I was 6 or 7. I had lots of experience despite the fact I couldn't buy anything myself until I turned 18.
Yes, it could be any of those models. But the 19 is very popular, and I wouldn't want to try 50 yard shots with a 43 LOL.
Just because he couldn't purchase one until last year doesn't mean he didn't have lots of experience shooting one.
He said he learned from his grandfather.
I learned to shoot from my grandfather too. Probably started with a .22 when I was 6 or 7. I had lots of experience despite the fact I couldn't buy anything myself until I turned 18.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Thats great you posted that. Im afraid of what my embarrassing performance would be but im willing to try. Wont be to the range for a a week or so though
GTN
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I had no idea either that’s why I tried. I was surprised that I got off 10 shots in under 10 sec
ECU Pirates
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His hit percentage is good on a static range punching paper. It's about as good as I have ever heard of with a pistol in a high stress situation on a 2 way range.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Speaking for myself, its not the time that would hamper me, its the hit percentage at that range. I know my capabilities and with that much at stake I personally would not have taken that shot.
Gotta get into another Accuracy and Accountability class with @OnSight Firearms Training and touch up those perishable skills
Phazer
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Taken that course at least 6 times. Will be taking it again very soon.