Just got a news alert that erie county NY has curfew 10:30 to 7:00am

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SonOfSun said:
Trap music? Going to go out on a limb here and consider myself lucky to not know what that is.
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Or similar can be heard in every hood and ghetto from coast to coast, and serves as the aspiration of every
lil’ homie who’s trying to come up. Almost like a blueprint of what inner city communities consider a role model
 
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Elwood said:
Or similar can be heard in every hood and ghetto from coast to coast, and serves as the aspiration of every
lil’ homie who’s trying to come up. Almost like a blueprint of what inner city communities consider a role model
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Wow, that's terrible.

Thanks for reminding me that sometimes it's best to not ask a question.
 
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SonOfSun said:
If you can prove it in court, sure.
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It was kinda nationally televised. I posted a screen shot from the rant showing her holding the bloody decapitated head of the POTUS.

How much more proof do you need ?

BTW, she was never charged with anything for that, and if she were to have been the left would erupt in even louder cries of fascism and there would have been even more riots.
 
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SonOfSun said:
I'm assuming the guy in the white shirt is the bar owner (says he's running a business). Yeah, not to smart to threaten to kill someone (39:45 in the video), especially with the cops standing there.

Also, at like 38 mins in the same guy starts whining about them shouting on public property because his customers don't like it? Well, too damn bad skeezak, people have a right to protest on public property, go have a cry about it.

Edit: at 45:45 they start chanting to defund BPD. They do realize BPD being there is why they didn't just get their asses kicked right?
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I don’t agree with them blocking streets. This is a major street. Not sure if they had a permit for this or not. I’m guessing you’ll never find out. I know they said the guys at the bar didn’t have a permit to protest but I doubt they intended to gather for a protest.
Who knows you’ll never get the full story. The BLM people are great and the white peoples that oppose these riots are jerks and misguided because they are peaceful according to the media.
 
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holdover said:
No its not, cut it out. The cops didnt do anything because the owner didnt do anything. You can say anything you want That first amendment thingy. The law states that for a threat to be considered real. the person must make an overt act to fulfil it. Threats mean nothing . go back to school. people say Ill kill you ten times a day . Its bullshit and so is your argument.
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Yes this is why if people hire a hit man they need to catch them taking overt action to carry out that action ie handing the hit man money to kill so and so.
 
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SonOfSun said:
No. Making a terroristic threat is not the same thing as actually or following through with it or even intending to follow through with it. That's why the penal code separates making terroistic threats and committing acts of terrorism. You see, one code is 490.20 Making a terroristic threat and the other is 490.25 Crime of terrorism. They aren't the same thing. 490.20 is constrained by "causes a reasonable expectation" and 490.25 is constrained by "commits a specified offense".

In regards to making a threat:
2. It shall be no defense to a prosecution pursuant to this section that the defendant did not have the intent or capability of committing the specified offense or that the threat was not made to a person who was a subject thereof.
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Making terroristic threats is completely different than saying I’m going to kill you. The reason terroristic threats are different is the whole group thing. If he planned to kill the group of rioters he would be guilty. Just speaking the words doesn’t make it so. If he gathered 5 guys at the bar and said he let’s get guns, track these guys down, and kill them then he would be guilty. Of simply saying I’m going to kill you is making a terroristic threat and punishable by law man we’d better clear out California to put all the domestic terrorists there because there’s a lot of them.
 
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I’ll tell you who the terrorists are it’s the BLM/antifa thugs that are looting and burning things to make a political statement. Pull your head out of your ass as they are doing this to win the election, make the government change its policy and get rid of police. They are terrorist to the literal legal definition.
www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2331 - Definitions

www.law.cornell.edu www.law.cornell.edu
 
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More protests planned today on Hertel near that bar.

People have commented on the lack of permits for the demonstrators. The mayor said there is no permit required to exercise 1A.

Not sure why there is for 2A then. Hmm. More liberal bullshit.
 
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holdover said:
I might take a walk over. The county closed the bar , so I dont know if people are going to come. If they do, could see me on the you tube. ;)
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I heard he voluntarily closed the bar. I’m sure the counties and his version of voluntarily closed are two different things. I thought this the minute I heard it.
 
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Just heard on radio it closed voluntarily. There is an investigation however for Covid violations.
 
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Scouted it out. nobody there , Police cars across the street. Facebook is shut down. Messaged a few Goombas, See what happens.
 
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Chevusa said:
Just heard on radio it closed voluntarily. There is an investigation however for Covid violations.
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"Voluntarily" probably means the .gov made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

"Close now or we'll yank your license, if you close you may be allowed to reopen eventually, if we yank the license it'll never happen"
 
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Im going to take a cruise by there at 3 or 4. see if anyone is around. yesterday BLM had their assembly point at school 66 a few blocks away on parkside.
 
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Sounds like a big one planned down there Friday. BPD asking BLM leaders to contact them with crowd size so they can plan for enough officers.
 
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