Except he got in a huff and pulled the "muh uniform" line.
Kay Jewelers fires manager for turning deputy away over service weapon
- Thread starter Arjuna
- Start date
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Which any one of us could do.
If I walked in there OCing and they turned me away I could go on social media and rant about the policy and it's stupidity too.
I could point out that I have a CCW and if I was concealing it I would have been allowed to go on about my business. I could even ask the company to change their policy to allow anyone with a CCW to carry in their stores.
And if they found my argument compelling they could change their policy. Just like they did for this guy.
This just isn't the case of a cop saying "muh badge", or a government demanding special privilege, that you make it out to be. He followed their policy, then complained that it was a bad policy, and got them to change it.
The equivalent in your firefighter and axe thing would be if the firefighter was turned away, he went home and complained to corporate, and they decided that in the future firefighters with axes should be allowed in.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I've skipped plenty of breaks when I was hourly too. I'm just explaining where the policy that you have to take them comes from. I fully recognize that policy gets overlooked many times.
You can bet the HR and legal guys wouldn't be happy if they found out.
Kay Jewelers is owned by the Parent company, Signet Jewelers. Signet does NOT have a no guns policy. Glad the manager was fired. Not because the guy was on the jab and working. Means nothing. The asshole manager created his own store policy, hope he stays unemployed for a while.
Yeah at first I was on the more pissed about him doing personal business while on duty in a duty vehicle.
But if he was on lunch well thats different. As for the policy or no policy its fucking stupid of the management to sit there and say hey mr police officer you cant bring that gun in here while in uniform.
No I dont believe officers are above law or policy but he is in fucking uniform, it's like that school who told the officer he couldnt drop his kid off on his way to work because he was in uniform and had a gun.
But if he was on lunch well thats different. As for the policy or no policy its fucking stupid of the management to sit there and say hey mr police officer you cant bring that gun in here while in uniform.
No I dont believe officers are above law or policy but he is in fucking uniform, it's like that school who told the officer he couldnt drop his kid off on his way to work because he was in uniform and had a gun.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
We had that happen and lost millions in a lawsuit.
But be didn't go to social media to complain. I'd applaud him if he did. I do.
He complained and made a scene in the store. But that STILL isn't even the issue. Note his complaint. Was it "every business should allow every legal gun owner inside?" Nope! It was "I'm a cop and I am in uniform. You should let me come inside as I please."
And their response was tailored right to that. Any cop may come in.
Special cases for special people. Absolutely a case of "muh badge."
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Funny, Kay's statement says * Our policy is that any member of law enforcement is always welcome in our store at any time, as a customer or in an official capacity*
spat
.700 Nitro Express
While *I* think their policy should be every legal gun owner, It's their store they can do what they want.
While I would have obviously preferred that he advocated for gun owners in general, I can't complain that he chose a smaller subset that he felt he had a higher chance of success with.
Just like I think a cake shop should make a cake for anyone who comes in, but if the owner of the shop wants to exclude some group that should be their right.
Paxal
.223 Rem
Stated clearly that he was on his lunch break. Sorry you don’t find that a compelling explanation. But, that’s all sort of beside the point. The fact that a dope barred a uniformed, on-duty deputy from coming into the store because he was armed is just silly.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Should have opened the door, stood outside and hollered, 'hey, I want to buy that Rolex', and see what happens.
Robin
Robin
Gotcha. Yeah that’s acceptable. But personally I wouldn’t risk an expensive item like that being in my RMP still. God forbid he gets hurt later in the shift? He won’t see that car for awhile.
It may have been his take-home car as well. Personal use is allowed with many department s
Yes but if he was on lunch break, that implies he was going back on the clock. I can think of so many scenarios where he would become separated from that car for long periods of time. Just not the brightest decision in my opinion.
Cop with a service pistol on his hip, office worker with a belt fed machine gun strapped to their back, should make no difference.
The demonization of firearms is immoral.
The demonization of firearms is immoral.
Nobody is arguing it isn't the store's right.
It's very much their right to exclude anyone they wish. Including cops, as hard as that is for them to swallow.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Good thing shops stop giving cops free coffee you would really have your...
I agree. I should have quoted the post, someone was mad he was "using" the car for personal use. I was just trying to point out it could have been his care to do with what he wanted.
I agree, aside from grabbing lunch, I do not use company cars for personal use.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
So, cop goes into store, manager tells him to leave.
He leaves, then complains that it's a stupid policy and they should at least allow uniformed LE to carry.
They agree with him and change the policy.
And somehow you are bent out of shape about it ?
Exonautic
.308 Win
Never thought we'd have a delusional cop hater on a forum like this but the more of darths posts I see the more I believe that's what he is.
Cop got his way= bad no matter how he did it.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
He is not the only one!! The other failed the psych exam! Big boy here must have or could not pass the physical!!
Exonautic
.308 Win
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
To be fair, @Darth is no cop hater. He hates entitlements and infringes and is vocal about it. If that makes him a cop hater then you all are cop haters.
Let’s not be hypocrites here.
Let’s not be hypocrites here.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
They don’t sell them at Kay. #hedidntgotokay
Let's try this again:
Cop walks into a store. I don't care if he's on his lunch break or not. Not even relevant.
Cop is told "sir, this store has a no gun policy. Please take it outside."
Instead of respecting the private property's wishes and taking it outside and shopping elsewhere or stating that it's a stupid policy on social media, he pulls the "I'm a COP!" line out in the store.
When follow up questions are asked, again "I'm a cop, and if this were an emergency blah blah blah."
Physical exam? Maybe, maybe not. Physiological exam, yeah, I'd pass that. But I'd certainly fail the "disproportionate propensity to be a domestic abuser" qualifier.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Fudd who thinks the 2nd Amendment is for sporting purposes is talking about me regarding the psychological . Myself and 2 other Hospital Police Officers who took the same exam were failed on the psychological back in 1999. I posted about it in another thread.
When he has nothing he resorts to insults. He’s a little man.
He also has the power to play his "run away with fingers in ears" card.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Lots of holster sniffers on gun forums.