Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
ask the 2 lawyers who are on the hook by the prosecuting attorney since they made a non working pistol to work so they could lay charges ..
MAN TRIES TO ROB PEOPLE IN A CONCEALED CARRY CLASS! HE GETS SHOT BY EVERYONE!
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ask the 2 lawyers who are on the hook by the prosecuting attorney since they made a non working pistol to work so they could lay charges ..
spat
.700 Nitro Express
In NY every gun is loaded if you also possess ammo to load it.
So unless you don't have any ammo for it anywhere near you, it *is* a loaded gun.
Are you suprised
Loaded chamber indicator
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Nope.
That_FNG
6.5 Creedmoor
Alternative headline:
“With just a screwdriver, this man saves the legal system hundreds of thousands of dollars on incarceration!”
“With just a screwdriver, this man saves the legal system hundreds of thousands of dollars on incarceration!”
Xae289
.223 Rem
Whoda thunk he actually picked the softest target on his list. Was his backup a police station.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
It depends on the context of the situation. In this situation, solely on stealing the gun, and not the assault, No. There was failed attempt to steal, but no other threat. (until the screwdriver came out). Once he had the gun in his hand , fair game . loaded or not ,its not for the people around him to determine that. He could have slapped a mag in without someone seeing it. the owner could have had another loaded gun , Its assumed lock and loaded during a commission of a crime.
Its a another killing of a black victim by white supremacist's. If people didn't have guns this would not have happened!
Its a another killing of a black victim by white supremacist's. If people didn't have guns this would not have happened!
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dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
I usually look down the barrel and see if there's a shiny boolit at the end. Quickest way I've found so far.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Don Pardo, tell him what he's won! Hes won full set of Samsonite luggage. Samsonite , the name in luggage,
and he will need that luggage in an all paid expense to the stupid part of hell, Yessss he will be traveling in style with a direct flight to hell wearing the newest hip hop t shirt.
And one year supply of Hell energy drink
Yes He will wisked off to the ninth circle of Hell where he will have an eternity to contemplate how stupid he was
He will also recieve a years worth of skin lotion from our sponsers!
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That_FNG
6.5 Creedmoor
If he is sent to hell he got off easy. He could of been sent to someplace worse like California.
In most cases it would not be a felony to take a pistol. Just a simple larceny. You can see how this defense is already off of the rails and we have only just begun. It sucks, but absent an aggravating action being taken by the thief, you don't stand a chance with your defense. The law is clear. Larceny (even felony level) = NO D.F. The grand jury will be given instructions and informed of the fact that no D.F. may be used per the law. Remember, for a good shoot it must check all 3 boxes. Lawful, reasonable, necessary. You likely don't even check 1 box leet alone all 3. It would not be a good day. You'd be wishing you had just walked away in a hurry.
Very wrong. It's what did you reasonably believe it was at the time with the information you had at your disposal.
Go rob a bank with a fake gun. It's still the same charge. Armed robbery. Did you make someone believe you had a gun? If yes, then you had a gun in the eyes of the law.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
PULL!!!
Naw needed to be shot with .45, to kill his soul.
Xae289
.223 Rem
Not gonna lie, I like that shirt.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
He wasnt shot during a "larceny", he was shot after he stabbed a cop in the neck with a screwdriver.As to the "larceny", if he entered the premises without permission it is burglary.
You would be right only under a specific condition. In NY if you trespass with intent to commit any other crime it is indeed burglary, a felony. However this appeared to be a public facility so in order for this case to be made he would have had to have been previously trespassed from the property. You would want written documentation to prove this. Without a previous trespass warning, he did not enter or remain unlawfully, as the law requires.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
If it is, as you say, a "public facility" it was being used by a private school to give a class.If he wasnt registered for that class he had no permission to be there.He attempted to steal a gun while on a premises he had no right to be in.Burglary.According to your reasoning a burglary cant be commited until after a tresspass was issued?If he wasnt shot and killed he would be charged with burglary.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
What a dumbass. Glad it ended up this way and hope the cop is safe. Wait for the mob to see this.
My reasoning is not involved. Only the letter of the law. It’s open to the public. It’s a gun range or retail facility. Anyone can enter while open for business unless they’ve been trespassed previously. Maybe if there were signs posted that anyone entering that was not registered for the class would be trespassing you
MIGHT have a case. Likely not though.
That’s like saying if you go to the grocery store but don’t buy anything you have entered unlawful. A swing and a miss.
Videos do.
They have I’m sure. It’s not a new video. Happened months ago.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Lets assume you are right and that its a private range,although I saw nothing that indicates that,but we all know you jailhouse lawyers are always right.The room the class was being held in is not open to the public,it is being used and likely rented by the group giving the class and open only to people involved,now if I was the RO and the people held him til we arrived and they tell me he had no permission to be in the room and he tried to steal a pistol he would be charged with burglary.From reading your posts in the past I know, right or wrong, you want the last word,so have at it,I am done.Talking to you is like talking to....a jailhouse lawyer.By the way, hows that open carry in NY and riding around with a loaded shotgun going?I am guessing you never followed thru, just talking out your ass as usual.
If it’s a retail business and open for business anyone can walk in. That’s a fact. Unless he went into a restricted area and violated posted signed that said he was not allowed to enter then you don’t have a case. He didn’t enter some guys house. This is a business that is located in a plaza or strip mall. The sign says open and the doors are unlocked and the lights are on. Remove your personal feelings and read and law and apply it.
Open carried yesterday including when I went out for a sit down lunch at an area restaurant, thanks for asking. Not sure why you’re worried about what I’m doing though. Weird.