Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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ronstar said:
Trump's representatives have admitted that he had hundreds of pages of classified and top secret documentation. At his private residence.

No such evidence has ever come forward regarding President Obama.
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Talk is cheap. There are sell outs everywhere. My understanding is they were declassified. Time will tell.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Trump, like all politicians has told lies. In that regard he's no different. But in this fiasco - no I don't think he broke the law and I certainly won't take the FBI's word for it. Why anyone would give them the benefit of the doubt is beyond me. Sounds like you won't even consider the possibility this is just another frame job by Trump's political enemies.
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Why don’t you think he broke the law? You don’t know what he did or didn’t do here. Neither do I. Hence waiting for details before lauding or lambasting.

i do trust the FBI infinitely more than him which is why I strongly suspect they are about to nail him pretty good, as I alluded to when I first heard the news. I have more faith in the fbi than a guy who pondered injecting bleach to cure Covid (he really did, and he really wasn’t joking).

his legal team is flailing around (reminds me of the election lawsuits)… Trump appears to concede he illegally retained official documents

This isn’t an election. A jury doesn’t buy cheap tricks, and bogus counter suits, and silliness.

If the AG decides to prosecute I will bet anyone money that he is convicted or accepts a plea. He thinks he’s running for office but crying to his base on this matter has zero impact on his criminal investigation.
 
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Blimey said:
Why don’t you think he broke the law? You don’t know what he did or didn’t do here. Neither do I. Hence waiting for details before lauding or lambasting.

i do trust the FBI infinitely more than him which is why I strongly suspect they are about to nail him pretty good, as I alluded to when I first heard the news. I have more faith in the fbi than a guy who pondered injecting bleach to cure Covid (he really did, and he really wasn’t joking).

his legal team is flailing around (reminds me of the election lawsuits)… Trump appears to concede he illegally retained official documents

This isn’t an election. A jury doesn’t buy cheap tricks, and bogus counter suits, and silliness.

If the AG decides to prosecute I will bet anyone money that he is convicted or accepts a plea. He thinks he’s running for office but crying to his base on this matter has zero impact on his criminal investigation.
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If you trust the FBI then it is clear you know nothing about the russiagate scandal or the abuses in the whitmer kidnapping case. You are a trusting fool.

Further evidence of your ignorance is your belief trump told people to inject bleach. I saw the press conference and can testify he didn't say that. But don't take my word for it:

www.statesman.com

Fact-check: Did Trump tell people to drink bleach to kill the coronavirus?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on June 11, 2020 Joe Biden : On COVID-19, Donald Trump said...
www.statesman.com www.statesman.com

TDS apparently cannot be cured by logic or facts.
 
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Blimey said:
Why don’t you think he broke the law? You don’t know what he did or didn’t do here. Neither do I. Hence waiting for details before lauding or lambasting.

i do trust the FBI infinitely more than him which is why I strongly suspect they are about to nail him pretty good, as I alluded to when I first heard the news. I have more faith in the fbi than a guy who pondered injecting bleach to cure Covid (he really did, and he really wasn’t joking).

his legal team is flailing around (reminds me of the election lawsuits)… Trump appears to concede he illegally retained official documents

This isn’t an election. A jury doesn’t buy cheap tricks, and bogus counter suits, and silliness.

If the AG decides to prosecute I will bet anyone money that he is convicted or accepts a plea. He thinks he’s running for office but crying to his base on this matter has zero impact on his criminal investigation.
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I say 60% chance he is indicted.
 
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Blimey said:
Why don’t you think he broke the law? You don’t know what he did or didn’t do here. Neither do I. Hence waiting for details before lauding or lambasting.

i do trust the FBI infinitely more than him which is why I strongly suspect they are about to nail him pretty good, as I alluded to when I first heard the news. I have more faith in the fbi than a guy who pondered injecting bleach to cure Covid (he really did, and he really wasn’t joking).

his legal team is flailing around (reminds me of the election lawsuits)… Trump appears to concede he illegally retained official documents

This isn’t an election. A jury doesn’t buy cheap tricks, and bogus counter suits, and silliness.

If the AG decides to prosecute I will bet anyone money that he is convicted or accepts a plea. He thinks he’s running for office but crying to his base on this matter has zero impact on his criminal investigation.
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While we're on the topic of trusting the FBI:


Still believe in the purity of these lawbreaking assholes?
 
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ronstar said:
Well that's your opinion. The FBI had a warrant which was justified by probable cause and approved by a federal judge.

We will soon see the affidavit.

However we do know for a fact that lots of classified documents were being held there, possibly in violation of federal law. If those classified documents were being held in order to commit future blackmail or extortion or as leverage that is indeed a crime.
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The FBI had a warrant signed by a partisan hack of a judge in obvious violation of all standards of judicial propriety.

No warrant should *ever* be issued for "all documents that might be evidence of a crime".

That's blatantly unconstitutional and any judge that would issue such a warrant should not be a judge.
 
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ronstar said:
There is no actual proof they were declassified.
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There is no proof they weren't.

So you have Trump's word against nothing.



During a press conference in 1964 president Johnson decided to announce the existence of the SR71. One of the most highly classified projects in American history.

He just decided to do it by himself at the moment to respond to criticism that he was weak on the military. "Look at this cool thing we made under my watch".

The decision was so hasty that he referred to it as the SR71 instead of the RS71 that it had been know as, thus forcing the administration to invent the backronym "strategic reconnaissance".

So, unless someone has proof that Trump didn't think to himself "I should declassified the contents of those boxes the GSA delivered before I go" prior to Biden's inauguration, you have no case.

If you somehow *do* have a mind reading helmet and can prove that he didn't have that idea until after he left office, you're still not going to be able to convict, because the warrant was so flawed and evidence collected from it or any "fruit of the poisonous tree" will be suppressed.
 
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Gentlemen, and I use that term loosely, please refrain from calling @ronstar a troll and use the ignore button. There is no actual proof he lives under a bridge. Every time you post something that gets under his skin he reports it. @HEX has had to repair the report button 6 times in the last month.

While @ronstar’s posts certainly seem to indicate he is a founding member of the Brady coalition against handgun violence or Moms demand action and is the chairman of AOC’s board of advisors there is no actual proof he is. Of course there is no actual proof posted on this forum that @ronstar is a he, an American, a gun owner, an unemployed teenager posting from the public library, or lives in his mom’s basement either, so please use the ignore function. I don’t want to have to ban anyone because of a hurt feeling report being filed, this is the last warning.

@ronstar the ignore button works as well as the report button. Please use it.
 
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dsdmmat said:
I am opening this thread back up (against my better judgement) any trolling or personal attacks in this thread from here on out will result in a permanent reply ban. Remember the ignore button is your friend.
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Thanks, this is an important thread. New material is coming out daily. I for one will ignore as you suggested!
 
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Im sorry, I can't ignore it. its just to funny. But I WILL STOP responding to it.

edit: for those unfamiliar with the magnificent "IGNORE BUTTON" Click on the person's name/Handle, a window will pop up. Look for the "IGNORE" button and hit it
 
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