holdover
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Called it!
Minneapolis Police Choke an Unarmed Handcuffed Man to Death
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Called it!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Incorrect. I have been the guy that corrects people that use disinformation for their own justification for not wanting to wear masks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Vapor
.308 Win
People need to remember as well that they have the right to peaceful assembly. Violent assembly is not a right. Mobs are not a right.
The law must be upheld. No man, anywhere, is above it.
If a police offer commits a crime, then we need to simply get back to upholding the law of the land. Tried by a jury of public peers. Not an internal review.
But certainly not mob justice. Democracy is mob rule by another name. This is why the founders chose a constitutional republic. This is why our laws don't change for the light and transient reasons of the fleeting emotions of public opinion.
The law must be upheld. No man, anywhere, is above it.
If a police offer commits a crime, then we need to simply get back to upholding the law of the land. Tried by a jury of public peers. Not an internal review.
But certainly not mob justice. Democracy is mob rule by another name. This is why the founders chose a constitutional republic. This is why our laws don't change for the light and transient reasons of the fleeting emotions of public opinion.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What?
You have been fine with churches being closed as well as the social distancing rules... All in violation of the Bill of Rights.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Social distancing rules are not a violation of the bill of rights. And if you actually read my posts, I have said over 200 times now that the whole country should not have been closed. I do not know how many times I have to say it.
As far as heavily affected areas go, you are funny. You would have no issues temporarily closing down a church if a catastrophe like perhaps cops shot in a precinct or a rape or other crime next to or in a church. Or perhaps a flood, gas leakage, fire, hurricane, ect in an area near a church or in the church itself despite church goers still wanting to go. Hell, you would keep me from going inside a 7-Eleven if I owned it and there was a mold hazard that got shut down by the health department or a church that was structurally unsound.
Lots of hypocrisy coming from you.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
"Can't we all just get along"?
Oops, wrong riot.
Oops, wrong riot.
You have said over and over that the entire country being down is wrong. Yes you have. Never said you were not on board in that respect.
But, you are fine with stopping the Freedom of assembly in your area. You wanna talk about hypocrisy? Wow.
Another thing, you consistently bring up what I would and would not do in regards to my employment, you have absolutely zero clue how I do my job. None whatsoever.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
During certain situations as I have brought up that are a detriment to the safety of the public, IE health department issues, fire, gas, ect, are temporary shutdowns a violation of the Bill of Rights? Yes or No?
And if ordered by your bosses to shut down or evacuate a church due to heath or safety issues, are you saying that you would refuse that order? Let them burn? Let the structure possibly collapse on them? Let them interfere with a police investigation? I find that hard to believe but if you say so, then you say so.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Come on ,stick to the topic guys
Toecutter
.308 Win
New video there was 3 cops on this guy
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I think this cops' only defense will be to blame Trump. Hell it's working for FUAC and he killed thousands.
Robin
Robin
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Detroit police Chief says there is probable cause to arrest.
I guess NBC would like to throw some more gas on the fire.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I don't think race had anything to do with it.
Robin
Robin
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
He's right. But it's not normal. How many black people are choked to death each year by cops? For a country of 350M, less than are killed by lightning.This man knows......
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Derek Chauvin Charged with Murder of George Floyd
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Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Clearly self-defense and his vehicle was under attack. I mean, at least at first. When he then just circles round to get the guy...lol, don't try and block vehicles, although I bet they have his plate and he may be in trouble for that because he was no longer in danger.
Driver Runs Down Protester at George Floyd Demonstration in Denver
The driver of a vehicle ran over a protester during a George Floyd demonstration in Denver, Colorado, on May 28.Protesters were rallying against the police killing of Floyd, in Minneapolis, Minnesota, days earlier.Footage from the Denver rally shows a driver speeding through a crowd of...news.yahoo.com
Agreed
Bozo
.45 acp
Looks to be another chaotic night tonight. Multiple reports now of thuglets with guns in hand menacing residents, threatening the crews that are boarding up looted businesses, etc.
Interesting thing about listening to the scanner traffic - many of the calls are teams responding to residents' please for help. It's not just Walgreens being looted and Autozones being torched. The most vulnerable are under attack. Time to take the gloves off and quell this shit now.
Interesting thing about listening to the scanner traffic - many of the calls are teams responding to residents' please for help. It's not just Walgreens being looted and Autozones being torched. The most vulnerable are under attack. Time to take the gloves off and quell this shit now.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I don't understand. He was arrested. That's what the protesters wanted, right?
I'm joking of course. Thereby proving exactly what was obvious to everyone from the get go. Protesters carry signs and march in front of court houses. They look nothing like what is going on in Minneapolis.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
"In May, we've watched Democrat mayors and governors have business owners arrested and jailed for reopening their business so that they could survive. Then we watch Democrat mayors and governors step back and allow looting and destruction of businesses. The message is clear. Democrats hate private businesses."
spat
.700 Nitro Express
While I don't condone either, there is a very huge constitutional difference between closing a building and preventing people from congregating.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Not arguing against congregations in areas not affected at all.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Actually, no. It would have to be an occupied dwelling. Shooting someone trying to set your empty shed on fire would get you arrested and tossed in jail.
I not sure about that. (I don't want to test it to find out either). I honestly don't know either way.
The reason that was explained to me is every fire call puts firefighters lives in danger rushing to the call and fighting the fire they are at risk. Firefighters may not know whether a building is occupied or vacant and may put themselves in danger to search it.
Not sure if that's true but that was explained to me. But again, I wouldn't want to be on trial for that...
All areas are infected. Some are more infected than others.
How many per capita need to be affected before it is okay to violate Rights?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I would tend to agree with you but bear in mind every state has different laws on this stuff.
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
.gov keeping an eye on things
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Most areas aren’t infected at all to be a danger to anything. And the 5 or so infections maybe even 25 ( Arbitrary number for the sake of discussion) are not numbers that require closures at all because for the most part, people aren’t packed into subway cars like sardines spreading it to hundreds and then thousands in Schenectady New York for example. They travel in cars not infecting anyone and for the most part, those that are infected stay home or wear a mask to prevent others from getting infected if they leave home to get groceries.
As far as to what number for closures? I do not have the specific number answer to that. I’m not an expert. But what I do know is that at some point, numbers become too much to allow massive congregations in football stadiums, churches, ect. Common sense says that when hospital beds start running out, it’s too late. So what is that number? The smart answer would be when infection rates start steadily rising rapidly.
Look. There is no reason to shut down NYC when the infection rate if high only in China. And similarly, there is no reason to shut down Buffalo when the infection is only high in NYC. And similarity as well there is no reason for a hospital worker to wear a mask in his own home.
But what is happening here is that people are bullshitting themselves with false facts to justify their anger. Yes. The government went too far. Yes they are taking advantage of the situation. But the BS spewed here about masks not capturing droplets to be inhaled by others is nonsense.
Regarding constitutionality, temporary closures and congregations aren’t constitutional infringements. If they were permanent or closed too long for no reason, they would be. Closing a printing press because there is a gas leak in the building is not a constitutional infringement. Closing it permanently despite the gas leak being fixed is. Big difference.
Taking someone’s gun away because he shot someone isn’t a constitutional infringement. But once he was acquitted of murder, and continuing to hold his guns is.
Stopping me from praying to god when a police investigation is happening in my church or home is not a constitutional infringement. Stopping me permanently even after the investigation is resolved is.
I hope you can see the difference. I’m not arguing just to argue. I just hate when incorrect facts are pushed to further an agenda. That’s what the left does with guns, immigration, and any other thing they are against. And we do the same.